swilow
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^^^Good post! 

TheodoreRoosevelt said:My argument here is that marijuana is not a particularly harmful substance to the body, and that the addiction is entirely psychological (the physical aspect being negligent in almost all cases).
8L4YN3 said:So at the end of the day it is all purely psychological..
TheodoreRoosevelt said:You won't get DT's or convulsions if you stop smoking cigarette smoking by cold turkey.
It's just my personal opinion that marijuana addiction seems a little trivial compared to all the other things you can get addicted to. This is just a personal opinion, which holds the same weight as me trying to say that the best color is blue. You guys are overthinking that one.
I haven't changed my stance at all, nor anything I've said. I said marijuana cannot cause physical dependency, but for the sake of this thread I'll just say you guys proved me wrong on that. I still am a little skeptical that insomnia or restlessness counts as proof of physical withdrawal, but whatever.
Marijuana, nor cigarettes, nor sex, will cause serious physical dependency with prolonged use. That is what I mean when I say these are not addictive chemicals. It is the activity of smoking marijuana that is truly addictive, which is by no means any less addictive than something you can get a physical addiction to.
I don't see what you find so confusing. Marijuana and sex addiction are almost entirely psychological, while heroin and xanax, while you can say they are entirely psychological as well, also have a very present physical aspect as well.
My argument here is that marijuana is not a particularly harmful substance to the body, and that the addiction is entirely psychological (the physical aspect being negligent in almost all cases). I am also saying that insomnia and restlessness are not that serious as symptoms for withdrawal.
And marijuana doesn't cause your tongue to rot off.
TheodoreRoosevelt said:Can you post the study again where quitting marijuana caused DTs or seizures?
TheodoreRoosevelt said:You won't get DT's or convulsions if you stop smoking cigarette smoking by cold turkey.
It's just my personal opinion that marijuana addiction seems a little trivial compared to all the other things you can get addicted to. This is just a personal opinion, which holds the same weight as me trying to say that the best color is blue. You guys are overthinking that one.
I haven't changed my stance at all, nor anything I've said.
I said marijuana cannot cause physical dependency, but for the sake of this thread I'll just say you guys proved me wrong on that.
Marijuana, nor cigarettes, nor sex, will cause serious physical dependency with prolonged use.
That is what I mean when I say these are not addictive chemicals. It is the activity of smoking marijuana that is truly addictive, which is by no means any less addictive than something you can get a physical addiction to.
I don't see what you find so confusing. Marijuana and sex addiction are almost entirely psychological, while heroin and xanax, while you can say they are entirely psychological as well, also have a very present physical aspect as well.
That has some merit to it, but try convincing anyone thats been head- fucked up from weed, and there are lots, that its not physically harmful. Plus your forgetting the whole issue of inhaling smoke.My argument here is that marijuana is not a particularly harmful substance to the body, and that the addiction is entirely psychological (the physical aspect being negligent in almost all cases).
And marijuana doesn't cause your tongue to rot off.
TheodoreRoosevelt said:What you seem to misunderstand, just like seeker, is that I am saying that marijuana is not an addictive substance (or it is, but very slightly).
TheodoreRoosevelt said:I am by no means saying marijuana is not addictive, or that physical dependency is what marks how addictive an activity can be.
so if that's all you that you mean why do you feel the need to say so much other stuff? why dont you simply say marijuana doesn't cause serious physical dependency and then let other people interpret that how they see fit
your argument is wrong. the physical component of the addiction is not negligent when you need to smoke marijuana in order to eat.
since some substances produce a stronger physical depedency than marijuana, marijuana doesn't produce physical depedency. everyone can now see this is a logical fallacy.
That fucking does not mean its not addictive- Deleriums Tremens and convulsions (which are essentially the same thing in this context) do not indicate withdrawl- that is not the only symptom. How narrow are you?
TheodoreRoosevelt said:Addictive substance = can create major physical dependency with habitual use.
You can get addicted to almost anything. It is not limited to just things you can get a physical dependency to.
You have less appetite because marijuana was what gave you appetite, thereby signaling to your body to stop doing it naturally. Similar to decreased levels of dopamine after ecstasy use.
Marijuana does not cause major physical withdrawal symptoms. Those that occur are relatively slight when compared to other physical withdrawals. It is extremely rare when cases occur that marijuana causes debilitating withdrawal symptoms. This is different from what I said earlier since I'm conceding that I was proven wrong about marijuana withdrawal during this thread, but my point still stands since the withdrawal symptoms that do occur, are in extreme cases, and are relatively slight.
Your body does not go into physical withdrawal from marijuana if you smoke a gram of high grade daily for 2 weeks.
Yes, if you read anything I said you would see I said physical dependency does not inherently mean those addictions are harder to break. I said earlier that addiction is psychological, and it varies from person to person. How narrow are you? It can easily be the case that marijuana, or sex, addiction may be much harder for you in every way than heroin or benzo addiction.