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daily low dose DMT for therapeutic purposes - revisited

Jabberwocky

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A couple springs ago, I used daily low doses of DMT for therapeutic purposes, I would usually smoke about 10-15mg in the morning and then go about my day in a much brighter mood. The effects would last 3-7 days after the initial dose, but each redose (every morning) would increase the anti-depressant effects until after a few mornings the effects would stabilize and I would be in a generally uplifted, creative, slightly psychedelic state of mind 24/7. Very useful psychedelic state of mind - where I could interact with others in a meaningful and profoundly emotional way.

Possibly the only drawback is that I would tend to be too emotional about sensing human suffering, and get very sensitive (on the verge of tears) when talking with a person (while perceiving their internal suffering that all humans have).

I started again to take low doses of DMT and again it has had a profound influence on my day to day mood. I have been smoking a lot of cannabis lately and that has had a depressant quality to my mood, where I just generally feel a little more insensitive to things around me...so I decided to add the DMT (because it seems to catalyze the opposite reaction).

Now I smoke a mix of cannabis, DMT, harmaline hcl, b caapi leaves, and synthetic cannabinoids, all jumbled up together in a never-ending bowl, sprinkling a little of this or a little of that as the mood strikes me, a continually shape-shifting and morphing 'neo-synthetic-changa' if you will :D

I'm curious if anybody else has explored using tryptamines daily and if you've also explored adding MAOIs into the mix (I feel like the MAOIs lengthen and potentiate the tryptamine's anti-depressant effects and can also activate latent effects that would otherwise have gone unnoticed).

Please share your stories, friends <3
 
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I have not tried anything of this nature, though your comments on an overemotional state are something I can relate to.

After doing some unknown dose (5 hits) of DOB I was in such a state for about 6 months. I could walk down the street and a neighbor trimming their tree could almost bring me to tears. Dealing with human suffering hit very deep, I believe it was because I was able to relate so fully.

I quite enjoyed the state to be honest, makes me wonder what the world would be like if we had a society that encouraged such states.
 
MAOIs themselves can be used for anti-depressent affect. I trust you know what you are doing, but be careful as MAOIs can have dangerous affects when mixed with alot of other things. (Drugs.. mainly)..

You have inspired me to try this, once i am able to. Will let you know when i do (Wont be for a while yet, am broke)..

Feeling too much empathy, for me, will be a major problem. I'm already overflowing with it and have previously made a thread asking for things to make me more apathetic as it was affecting me in a rather negative way.. I'm a bit more balanced now / comfortable with it now, though.
 
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Not to get too far off topic (but I like to explore whatever topic ya'll want to explore <3), but I don't believe the solution is to become more apathetic, I believe empathy can be harnassed and directed in a way that is extremely beneficial to you and yours. Think about it this way, its a lot of energy in certain brain areas that is looking for release (through good deeds, meaningful interactions that better others around you, etc)...why would you suppress that?

Learn to channel it.

(easier said than done, I know! its a lifetime learning process for us I think)
 
Ayahuasca vine can also be smoked it is more potent, but a bit more intense than the leaves.

I know a few people who have smoked DMT every day for a year or so... obviously, they felt it was doing good things for them or they would not have done it!


Julian.
 
Not to get too far off topic (but I like to explore whatever topic ya'll want to explore <3), but I don't believe the solution is to become more apathetic, I believe empathy can be harnassed and directed in a way that is extremely beneficial to you and yours. Think about it this way, its a lot of energy in certain brain areas that is looking for release (through good deeds, meaningful interactions that better others around you, etc)...why would you suppress that?

Learn to channel it.

(easier said than done, I know! its a lifetime learning process for us I think)

Because for me it is a great feeling of uselessness and worthlessness when i see my friends and loved ones in bad situations that i cannot control. Believe me, i try to help, but when I can't; it's soul crushing. Empathetic feelings (for me) seem to always end in depressed feelings.

Anyway: Back to the topic ;)
 
I'm interested in trying this (though probably weekly rather than daily) as I've found low doses (10-20mg) of DMT most pleasant indeed. After a single session the anti-depressant/heart-opening qualities lasted up to a couple of weeks for me.

If I end up making a weekly ritual of this I'll compile any notable results into a retrospective, but first I have to figure out how to best fit this into my life (and nerve myself up to smoke DMT again :|).
 
I always kinda chuckle at my nervousness for DMT if I haven't used any in a long while...its so beautiful and rich and satisfying of an experience, I find it odd in the afterglow that I would fear it!

Please anybody that experiments, please report back...listen, I don't want to influence you to do anything you wouldn't do otherwise...I don't feel comfortable guiding people like that...so give careful thought to this if you start using it medicinally.
 
I know what you mean, GP. DMT for me has been 100% positive so far but something about it makes me want to be very careful with it and show the utmost respect when dealing with this particular material.

And I'm not sure if your second comment was directed at me, but I've actually been wanting to dip my toes in these waters again for a while. There are some empathy-related issues I'd like to work on that are somewhat related to my cannabis use and I think working through these and then examining them in depth through writing will ultimately be beneficial for me. No reason to feel like you're influencing me negatively, but knowing that other people are curious about any results I might come up with does give me some incentive to push forward with this.
 
DMT is truly a radiant entity, I too experience the anxiety, sincerety and respectful feeling before launching and when navigating the realms I am
greeted with a couple possible reactions ranging from ignoring to downright existentially loving. It teaches humility and obeyance not by slapping you around but rather by reflecting deep disappointment. I think this is why it is possible to have such an understanding relationship with the experience, because it stimulates and leaves no doubt to truthfulness. In turn this seems to motivate my intentionality.

At the moment I don't have the means for blasting off more than once, let alone daily but when I get it figured out how to produce high yields from my supplies I plan on frequently dosing to help me improve on my life.
 
Yes DMT at low dose can have a very pronounced cheering up effect ( I hestitated to say anti depressant coz I think it a misrepresentation) & I also can get this very emotive effect mentioned by Gaian Planes from DMT.
I did the pretty much the same thing oddly enough around the same time as the OP - however I eventually concluded that it wasn't moving me anywhere in particular after some time & that I ought to actually put into practice what DMTspace had made me aware of.

I may well use it in this way again - I think probably not but never say never & all that.

When I needed it it was some good & powerful medicine.

I plan on frequently dosing to help me improve on my life.

I can fully understand that. I find that it's a very "awareness" based experience & assumming one can integrate & carry forward this awareness using DMT frequently would most likely be a positive thing.


My days of using drugs on a daily basis have receded tho - DMT told me to do this some time ago - I'm a BIG procrastinator tho.
 
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yes I've smoked DPT in combination with MAOI + cannabis it is a dream my friend <3

please do try this,

it lengthens the DPT somewhat, more wave-like peak-like

be prepared to be blown out of the fucking universe if you smoke 45+ mg of DPT at once after engaging your MAO substrate with an inhibitor.
 
I used a HBW tincture daily during the summer of 06 with cannabis and very small amounts of amphetamine. It sounds like a strange mix, but it was absolutely wonderful. Then I opened myself up to cocaine, and I was never able to get back to that place by just taking the seeds. However, the last time I used HBW, which was a little over 2 months ago, I heard her say "I have taught you everything I can teach you, you must get back on the path yourself." I felt terribly alone and depressed at that moment, but it did serve as the catalyst for many changes in my life and my attitude over the last 2 months.
 
Allright guys, i have got 20grams of mimosa hostilis, apperantly this one works without a MAOI.

Now i dont want to trip but i'm interested in trying a low dose that wont be psychedelic (saying like taking 5-10mg of 2CD). How much gram of mimosa would i need to take? (its probably variable but from what should i build up?)
Thx!
 
I see entheogens being more profound and beneifical when large doses are taken infrequently.

In the case of smoked N,N-DMT an example of this would be 75-300mg smoked once every 1-3 months.
 
Isn't it weird that with all the talk of stuff like this, we never hear about a real success? People end up feeling more in touch with nature or empathy, but do you ever hear someone post about coming to a breakthrough point with their music or art or business because they were getting enlightened on DMT or some other psychedelic?

It seems so odd to me, because of how creative and 'with it' drugs have made me feel in the past. But then I go to work, and I think I see the way some people handle their everyday life, sober, and I'm just like wtf. This dude has never tripped before, but he's the most creative, intelligent, and empathetic while calm person ever. and there are like infinity of those people everywhere, and none of them are smoking dmt every day, or even at all, really.
 
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