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Crusties v Cops

yeah there was a live feed of it , this dude living right across from it streamed the whole thing live, was pretty crazy like


he was attacking the cops and threatening them with petrol bombs he he

Never saw any petrol bombs tho, was just a threat , dont think he actually had any tho but he was attacking them with a huge pole and throwing shit at them , looked like rocks
 
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The thing about Tesco and the like is, the damage they do really isn't obvious. But it's there, subtle and insidious.

Village shops -- the local butcher's, baker's, hardware store &c. -- used to be places where you spoke to, interacted with, connected with your neighbours. The shopkeeper, and most of the other customers, lived in the village with you. Also, until quite recently, it was acceptable for any adult to feed, discipline or commandeer the services of any child, and it would hardly be unusual to be asked to help someone else carry their shopping home. Everyone knew everyone else, and what was going on; and you quickly learned that it was all one big doorstep you really shouldn’t dirty.

Living like that engenders a real sense of individual responsibility. Humans are pack animals; and one of the manifestations of our pack instinct is, people tend to act in such ways as not to make other people want to say bad things about them. In the village where I grew up, if the newsagent caught you stealing — and she would catch you; she had eyes in the back of her head — she would silently add the items to your parents’ paper bill. Shoplifting was something nobody ever tried twice.

You just don’t get the same sense in a huge, impersonal supermarket. The staff, and all the other customers, are basically strangers. You can't get to know the checkout assistants, or the specialists at the various counters, because there are so many of them and you never get the same person from one visit to the next. Your next-door neighbour could be in the same store, and yet you probably would not even notice them. If you haven't got a bond with someone, you can't empathise with them; and if you don't think you're going to see them again then you don't have so much of an interest in making a good impression on them. And the self-policing effect is lost. It’s a recipe for anti-social behaviour, alienation, paranoia, depression and suicide.

Apologists for Tesco will tell you that they are only providing goods that people want to buy at a price they don't mind paying and at hours that suit, but that doesn't mean that local shops weren't selling goods that people wished to buy. And if local shops are more expensive, that is because they have naturally higher overheads, if you are measuring strictly in pounds and pence, than a steel-frame building quickly thrown up on a piece of waste ground. But they had a social benefit that was only noticeable when it was lost.
 
Village shops -- the local butcher's, baker's, hardware store &c. -- used to be places where you spoke to, interacted with, connected with your neighbours. The shopkeeper, and most of the other customers, lived in the village with you.

In a sense - but they only interacted with you because you had money didn't they. If you didn't have any money then none of them would piss on you if you were on fire.

Interacting with someone just because you can get money out of them isn't the same thing as friendship or belonging somewhere is it.
 
I live in a rather historic, tiny, rural Welsh town/village with mass unemployment. We have a Co-Op that's been here for years and a Spar (if you count that as a supermarket). We also have many independent shops on the one main street here. We also have Tesco waiting in the wings. They've bought up vast stretches of land and have paid off several households to buy their properties. A single individual has held out and refused to sell out. He's a friend of mine. The huge areas they've bought up here mean that nobody who wishes to start a business to compete (or even not compete - doesn't matter what you wish to sell even if Tescunts have no interest in selling similar products or services) can hope to do so cos they won't sell the land they swallow up. They buy out everybody and everything to strangle any possible competition whether it exists or not. Tesco own this town already (and much of the surrounding land) even though they have no store here. Yet.

There's an ongoing debate between the pro and anti Tesco factions here. Some welcome it cos the Co-Op, independents etc are stupidly expensive and there's also a strong anti-Tesco protest from those that know what will inevitably come from a Tesco in such a tiny community. For those urban folk who speak to low prices, you are way off the mark in these kinda areas. Prices here (and in surrounding areas that have succumbed) are sky-high. Way higher than you would ever believe. One company does not equal one price. The more dominant Tescunts are the higher the prices. In urban areas there is little to no difference. Out here in the sticks the difference is huge.

As mentioned by several sane folks so far, prices are dirt cheap when they're initially opened. Then they go sky-high when all competition has been extinguished. People in small communities are fucked over and sold out in a big way. Online prices are irrelevant cos they don't deliver to such places. Or charge large fees if they choose to do so.

Tescunts didn't get that name by accident.
 
Have you got any links or examples of how Tescos prices differ between rural and city stores Shammy?

I'm not asking cos I don't believe you, I genuinely want to know as I'd always thought a supermarkets prices are more or less the same nationwide rather than huge differences within its own stores.
 
No links cos they're not online prices, Rez. Prices vary massively between stores in differing locales in the same chain depending on the area they are in. I may not be able to prove it (short of you coming to visit and me taking you on a tour) but it is truly the case I can promise you. The more rural/cut-off the area the higher the prices. Tis fact whether it suits you to believe or not :(

If you really wanna test the theory then travel to the most out of the way village you can be arsed to and compare the prices of whichever supermarket they have with those in your urban equivalents. I suspect you will be shocked.
 
The reason they'd probably cite for that is increased costs involved in delivering goods to rural stores, that's the only thing I can think of Sham.

But an organisation the size of Tesco and with the profits they generate should fucking well suck any loss up and give rural customers the same prices as any other customers.
 
They may well cite that... so why strangle all competition and open stores in areas that neither want nor can support them? The pre-existing stores manage to keep prices lower despite being a fraction of the size of Tesco. Why? Cos they want only to monopolise the high street and fuck the consumer who just has to suck it up. They are scum.
 
Ahhh, fuck em all thats what I say.

I'm going to take on Tescos myself. I intend a launch a chain of shops where people perform expressive organic dance and create pieces of art-terrorism in return for food and clothing.

Or something.

I'm off to bed, night Shammy.
 
Bwahahahahahaha! You just kinda summed up many of the independent shops we have round here. Really. Love 'em or hate 'em the tourists lap it up along with many of the local residents. And tourism (and local residentary) is the only thing keeping this place (barely) afloat. Are said tourists still gonna come to shop at Tesco? I suspect not. As if places like this weren't on their knees anyway....

Night, Rez <3
 
Two of my mates were arrested in the most recent riots.

I've a feeling one of them has now been sectioned again, as he was already high as a kite when I saw him the night before when he was running about with me, and he suffers from Paranoid schizophrenia and has not been back to his hostel since then. I think it's the best place for him to chill out for a while.

30 arrests in total. Still a very heavy police presence on Stokes Croft.

I don't think much of Banksy's latest print to do with the whole issue though. It's apparently to raise money for the area, but I think it's shit!
 
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