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Misc Creative ways to eliminate abscesses (and methamphetamine analogs)

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Bluelighter
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I was wondering, would it not be possible to reduce an already half formed abscess with a peroxide, such as benzoyl or hydrogen peroxide? Theyare both bacteriostatic and they are used as treatment for acne. Acne is essentially bacteria beneath the skin which is similar to an abscess. Putting a bit of 10% benzoyl peroxide cream on a developing abscess should help fight infection.

Then there is ethyl alcohol as a preventitive measure for abscesses from amphetamines. Methamphetamine for example is not very lipid soluble, ethyl alcohol on the other hand is. Methamphetamine is very soluble in alcohol. Additionally, ethyl alcohol is capable of permeating the skin. In theory, putting ethyl alcohol on a bump of methamphetamine from a missed shot should help absorption of the methamphetamine by our bodies.

We could also dissolve ibuprofen in ethyl alcohol (again due to absorbtion by the skin and the solubility of ibuprofen), in order to reduce the inflammation (redness, swelling).

Any more Ideas, please add them. I would like a compilation of crazy ideas that just might work. Use whatever science you want, chemistry, biology or physics to come up with an idea. This is a bit of a "fun" mind challenge. It isn't the end of the world if I get no replies. I am just in the mood for this.

Oh, and then there is my methamphetamine analog question. Does anyone have any information on some crazy long acting or super potent methamphetamine analogs out ther? I have searched and searched yet I cannot seem to find any information on this subject. DON'T TURN THIS INTO A SYNTHESIS DISCUSSION PLEASE. I would just like some websites with information on analogs or information which you have obtained somehow. No methylenedioxy derivatives or ethamphetamine, propylamphetamine, butylamphetamine etc.

Please don't add things like hot compress or antibiotics. They are known methods and not interesting at all. The method can be specific to one drug or cover a range. FEEL FREE

Thank you for reading and if you posted, thank you for posting too.
 
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Alcohol and peroxide are necrotic to tissue; they will only do more damage. Antibiotics and a hot compress really is the best method for an abscess. Topical NSAIDs could help too (ibuprofen/naproxen gel). but they could also mask symptoms of infection.

Peroxide is really bad because it is a strong oxidising agent.

Methamphetamine freebase is not water soluble, but you're not injecting freebase meth. Freebase meth is a caustic oil. Methamphetamine HCl on the other hand, is very water soluble and should diffse rapidly into tissues.

Mind you, methamphetamine itself is a vasoconstrictor; it will cause tissue necrosis if you miss your shot and has a tendency to lend itself to forming abscesses.
 
From what I've heard 4-fluoroamphetamine (4-FA) is a very desireable drug, haven't tried it myself, but have seen a plethora of good reviews for it (as well as 4-fluoromethamphetamine [4-FMA], but theres alo a fair amount of negative views out on 4-FMA)
 
Ethyl alcohol doesn't cause necrosis when applied topically, maybe when injected but that is far from what I have said.

Benzoyl peroxide is pretty safe in concentrations of up to 15% (maybe even 20%). Apart from some minor peeling and possibly some very mild inflamation when applied to open wounds, there are no real side effects (only other one I can think of is pruritus).

I agree that NSAID's could mask the infection but it can reduce pain and swelling if one is on a course of antibiotics.

I assumed that everyone knew that I was referring to a water soluble salt of methamphetamine such as HBr, HCl or H2SO4. Specifically sulfate and hydrochloride since they are both soluble in ethanol it seems.

Does methamphetamine act as a local vasoconstrictor? Because then alcohol would be even more helpful. I think it dilates blood vessels when applied topically. Even isopropyl would work.
 
On the topic of methamphetamine analogs, the most "superpotent" one that you'll find is plain D-N-methylamphetamine. Ring or chain substitution seems to greatly decrease efficacy, and further N-substitution does too.

Maybe 2-fluoromethamphetamine? I heard rumours that 2-FA was a better dopamine releaser than plain amphetamine but maybe that was wrong.
 
Mod Note: I know you didn't flat out ask for them, but sources/vendors for research chemicals are strictly verbotten. So everyone, PLEASE keep this on topic and don't start asking/providing sources for anything, otherwise this will have to be closed.

Thank you.
 
On the topic of methamphetamine analogs, the most "superpotent" one that you'll find is plain D-N-methylamphetamine. Ring or chain substitution seems to greatly decrease efficacy, and further N-substitution does too.

Maybe 2-fluoromethamphetamine? I heard rumours that 2-FA was a better dopamine releaser than plain amphetamine but maybe that was wrong.

I read of some amphetamine analogue (I was positive that it was an analogue of methamphetamine) which was ten times more potent by weight and had a lower heart rate and blood pressure to psychoactive effects ratio, this led to it being classified as a hallucinogen or something along those lines. Any idea? I really wanted to find that one (but I am happy with other cool analogues).

No source discussion intended. Sorry for not making that clear.

PS. I don't think that it was DOB or something with methoxy groups.
 
It would have to be either DOB or perhaps a pera-substituted methamphetamine or amphetamine.

The problem with drugs that are more potent than meth is that methamphetamine is already strong enough to be neurotoxic. When you get into the seriously strong releasing agents like para-chloro or para-bromo or even para-methylthio amphetamine, they are considered toxins rather than recreational drugs.

"Hallucinogenic amphetamines" are much different in activity from straight amphetamine releasing agents. They are more adrenergic and serotonergic direct agonists rather than releasers.
 
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