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Crack cocaine/ resin prep

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zp420247

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What's up so I've searched all over the forums for a detailed method to get the most our of crack resin.. tbh I probably have close to 5g of res saved up.. but it way to harsh as is and constantly clogging my piece. I know the overall idea of using isopropyl to purify.. but could someone,anyone help me get it right. Plz no negativity
 
I don't know why no one ever answered this. I also would like to know the best way to purify resin to keep only the good stuff. I have had luck using isopropyl alcohol to soak and stir char in, and to wash stems. Then taking that and boiling it off (VERY carefully!) The alcohol boils off at a lower temp than you'd need to worry about. But the alcohol vapor is an extreme fire hazard, so plan ahead for what you'd do if shit went sideways. I used the bottom half of a soda can which helps keep the heat source away from the alcohol. I like that it can be fast.

Recently I took a bottle of mostly powder scraped from stems and heated slowly in water. It turned into a light brown blob at the bottom of the beaker and globs were breaking towards the surface, then coming back down. Nothing on top. I poured the dirty looking water off and it left behind a big, super hard, light brown rock. It's not bad smoke. I wonder if you kept changing the water if you'd remove more water soluble impurities and improve it?

I'm sure there are more sophisticated methods out there to recover just the active ingredients. Anyone?
 
Aleister92 said:
I don't know why no one ever answered this. I also would like to know the best way to purify resin to keep only the good stuff. I have had luck using isopropyl alcohol to soak and stir char in, and to wash stems. Then taking that and boiling it off (VERY carefully!) The alcohol boils off at a lower temp than you'd need to worry about. But the alcohol vapor is an extreme fire hazard, so plan ahead for what you'd do if shit went sideways. I used the bottom half of a soda can which helps keep the heat source away from the alcohol. I like that it can be fast.

Recently I took a bottle of mostly powder scraped from stems and heated slowly in water. It turned into a light brown blob at the bottom of the beaker and globs were breaking towards the surface, then coming back down. Nothing on top. I poured the dirty looking water off and it left behind a big, super hard, light brown rock. It's not bad smoke. I wonder if you kept changing the water if you'd remove more water soluble impurities and improve it?

I'm sure there are more sophisticated methods out there to recover just the active ingredients. Anyone?
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Damn thank you for at least replying. I was equally surprised that I asked my first question and was met w complete silence. Im curious about the method u mentioned at the end of your reply w the beaker.. I mean i refuse to let all this res go to waste.. when I say alot I mean.... like ... I never scrap anything anymore I just fill it till it's beyond use n put it away n get new piece.. I know there's a way to make the best out of this
 
zp420247 said:
Damn thank you for at least replying. I was equally surprised that I asked my first question and was met w complete silence. Im curious about the method u mentioned at the end of your reply w the beaker.. I mean i refuse to let all this res go to waste.. when I say alot I mean.... like ... I never scrap anything anymore I just fill it till it's beyond use n put it away n get new piece.. I know there's a way to make the best out of this
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I'll let you know if I figure out a better method. Since the key molecule in crack is non-polar, it won't dissolve in water. Which explains the blob that sank to the bottom. And half burnt crap dissolved into the water. If you kept changing out the water I wonder if the blob would get less and less dense until it floated on top.
 
I mean I know people that bang hard use vinegar or lemon juice. But have u heard of a method using ammonia? Because ever cake I've ever baked like that came out beautiful wondering if I can reverse engineer or something
 
zp420247 said:
I mean I know people that bang hard use vinegar or lemon juice. But have u heard of a method using ammonia? Because ever cake I've ever baked like that came out beautiful wondering if I can reverse engineer or something
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Vinegar or lemon juice? That'd turn the base back into HCl, which would dissolve in water. Then add ammonia and make it into base again? I see people recommending using ammonia to clean pipes and char, but my friend hasn't. He def uses the slow and careful ammonia method to clean up white and make base though. Gotta do some experiments!
 
No maybe I wasnt clear enough in my response. I know the chemistry. I was talking about people i knew that use to break it down w lemon or vin to boot it in they vein.. I known ammonia cook is more often than not superior to traditional bicarb method. But most cooks r stuck in their ways n not open to trying new ideas. the Amm recipe I was taught is basically foolproof but I've only made small.batches as I don't confidently know how to extrapolate it for larger amounts.. I'm no iron chef
 
My curiosity in this topic emanates from the following-

I'm a self taught cook. Lots of trial and error, but I've generally got the hang of it (Bicarb method). My problem is this- Sometimes I screw it up because the ingredients I get are too pure (I use too much Bicarb). Also, this becomes a scaling up problem when attempting to cook larger amounts (e.g.- = to or > than about 7ish grams at a time). Tjis leaves me with a collossal pile of fluffy bicarb that won't "reduce" while cooking. How to extract the excess (Bicrab) and start over is my question. I've tried a few different things, but the results are less than I'd hoped.

And, please- I'm interested in the chemistry of it. Not moral judgements or criticisms of one sort or another. Thanks in advance. I just want to educate myself.

Edit- Although I don't specifically employ a "test" kit for the HCL, I generally get 87-94% return by weight once finished. So, that's how I gauge the quality, correct or not. And it's exceptional when consumed. That's the feedback I get anyway....
I don't consider myself super knowledgeable, just always curious as to how things work and why.
 
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xtraestrella said:
My curiosity in this topic emanates from the following-

I'm a self taught cook. Lots of trial and error, but I've generally got the hang of it (Bicarb method). My problem is this- Sometimes I screw it up because the ingredients I get are too pure (I use too much Bicarb). Also, this becomes a scaling up problem when attempting to cook larger amounts (e.g.- = to or > than about 7ish grams at a time). Tjis leaves me with a collossal pile of fluffy bicarb that won't "reduce" while cooking. How to extract the excess (Bicrab) and start over is my question. I've tried a few different things, but the results are less than I'd hoped.

And, please- I'm interested in the chemistry of it. Not moral judgements or criticisms of one sort or another. Thanks in advance. I just want to educate myself.

Edit- Although I don't specifically employ a "test" kit for the HCL, I generally get 87-94% return by weight once finished. So, that's how I gauge the quality, correct or not. And it's exceptional when consumed. That's the feedback I get anyway....
I don't consider myself super knowledgeable, just always curious as to how things work and why.
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Are you weighing the bicarb? I go by .20 bicarb to 1gm cola.
 
You are talking about the leftover product that sticks to your pipe, yes? Cocaine base dissolves in ether, pour the ether on dish (use glass or china, a smooth surface) the ether evaporates, leaving the cocaine base, you can scratch it off with a razorblade.
 
Also to make freebase cocaine using ammonia, you use ether to get the freebase out of the ammonia. Ideally you'll need a separatory funnel. But you could improvise with a dropper.
Offcourse you could cook the cocaine in some ammonia in a spoon and then, when the cocaine starts to come together (you can help it a bit by stirring with the tip of a knife) you
can drain the ammonia by using a papertowel (be carefull, you don't want the paper towel to suck up your coke) the coke will start to harden
(for your lungs and for the taste it's best to cook once more in a spoon with water, to remove leftovers of ammonia, depends on how fast you need your hit :p)
 
xtraestrella said:
My curiosity in this topic emanates from the following-

I'm a self taught cook. Lots of trial and error, but I've generally got the hang of it (Bicarb method). My problem is this- Sometimes I screw it up because the ingredients I get are too pure (I use too much Bicarb). Also, this becomes a scaling up problem when attempting to cook larger amounts (e.g.- = to or > than about 7ish grams at a time). Tjis leaves me with a collossal pile of fluffy bicarb that won't "reduce" while cooking. How to extract the excess (Bicrab) and start over is my question. I've tried a few different things, but the results are less than I'd hoped.

And, please- I'm interested in the chemistry of it. Not moral judgements or criticisms of one sort or another. Thanks in advance. I just want to educate myself.

Edit- Although I don't specifically employ a "test" kit for the HCL, I generally get 87-94% return by weight once finished. So, that's how I gauge the quality, correct or not. And it's exceptional when consumed. That's the feedback I get anyway....
I don't consider myself super knowledgeable, just always curious as to how things work and why.
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Greetings gents, might I add to the discussion with a last step that many people miss- once you have the fluffy bicarb,, crush it into a fine powder. Add it to a small cup with slightly warm water and swish or stir it around for a minute or two. Then pour it into a coffee filter covering another cup. Everything thats not Rock will dissolve in water and you'll be left with a pile of pure (well, as pure as your connect gave you lol) place the coffee filter over a paper towel to dry for a few, then enjoy.
 
xtraestrella said:
. I just want to educate myself.

Edit- Although I don't specifically employ a "test" kit for the HCL, I generally get 87-94% return by weight once finished. So, that's how I gauge the quality, correct or not.
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Ok
If you had 100% pure cocaine hcl the maximum return you can possibly get of actual crack (freeebase) is 89%, due to the removed hcl molecule accounting for 11%. I do believe that to be a fact, so that's something you may want to consider

So, if your cocaine was, say 80% pure (definitely a pretty high purity and not available to everyone to say the least) your maximum return of pure cack would be 712mg from 1 gram

Any attempt to calculate cocaine purity via the percentage of crack returned is futile too, because there are plenty of common cuts that also rock up.
 
can someone please tell me how to cook a gram of cocaine into crack!!! I’m having a hard time
 
Wavythickk said:
can someone please tell me how to cook a gram of cocaine into crack!!! I’m having a hard time
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I would recommend the ammonia method over the baking soda method; which are you trying?

Baking Soda Method

With baking soda, you want to use at most 0.3g per gram of cocaine. Put both your baking soda and your coke in a deep spoon - I highly recommend a half spherical tablespoon size measuring spoon, not just a flat big spoon, it’s too easy for spillage to occur with the latter. Add just enough water, ideally distilled water, to fully cover the powders.

Use a lighter to heat the bottom of the spoon. Once it starts bubbling, you’ll need to lower the lighter flame so that it does not boil too vigourously. You do want it to boil properly, but you don’t want such large bubbles that it’s splattering because then you’ll lose product. You’ll notice that everything will dissolve and then an oily layer with a pale yellow tint will start to form on the top. Once you have a clear solution with that oily layer on top, you’ve converted everything.

Next you can let the spoon cool until the oily layer solidifies into crack or if you’re in a hurry you can use the tip of a knife or a small metal spatula. By gently coating it with that oily layer you will cause it to cool and solidify more quickly, especially if your metal is cold. You can use ice or the fridge to cool your spoon/tools. Some people also add ice water to the spoon, but I don’t like to do that because it risks spillage. Personally, I find just being patient is best if you’re able.

When it’s hard and cool you separate it from the water which you can throw away. You’ll likely have to break it into at least a couple pieces and scrape bits at the edges where they get stuck to the spoon off with your fingernail. At this point, you can smoke it, but I highly recommend rinsing the crack with pure distilled water three times (I put mine in doubled up coffee filters) and letting it dry completely before doing so. I’ve had a lot of issues with smoking even slightly damp crack. If you have a radiator, spreading your crack out in a shallow dish and putting it on there will dry it in 15-30 minutes.

Ammonia Method

Get some ammonia at a hardware store or large grocery store. I’d get the lowest percentage you can which is usually 10% but you can work with higher percentages as well, you just need to be careful not to use too much. You’re going to need an eyedropper and a shot glass for this method.

Put your cocaine in a shot glass and cover it with water, ideally distilled. Then start adding ammonia one small drop at a time, stirring vigourously in between drops. You’ll be able to see the crack forming as a milky opaque powder that will make the solution thicker. But literally it looks like drops of milk are forming in the shot glass. Once those you stop seeing those form when you’re adding ammonia, you’ve converted all your cocaine to crack or technically freebase (crack = made via the baking soda method, freebase = made via the ammonia method, but they are functionally the same except the latter is stronger/a less wasteful process). You’ll also be able to tell that you’ve converted all the cocaine because you’ll start smelling the ammonia in your shot glass solution. As it has a very strong odour, even a small amount is detectable. But don’t EVER inhale any ammonia directly - only waft some of the fumes from above the shot glass towards your nose.

Now you want to pour that shot glass into doubled up coffee filters, and rinse at least three times with water until you cannot smell anymore ammonia. Then gently squeeze the filters to get rid of excess water and next wrap the filters in paper towels to absorb even more water. Then you want to put the filter on a radiator to dry, or dump it out in a shallow bowl (I find crème brûlée dishes are perfect for this) and spread it out which will speed up the drying process.
 
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Are you injecting the crack? I believe lemon and white vinegar mixture. I can't remember the measurements and it's really gnarly. Stay safe.
 
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