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It says Obama spent $65,000 of taxpayers money flying out pizza/dogs from Chicago to the White House for a private party which is code for children.

Then Jesus christ Obama is a master negotiator.

65 grand for a large parties worth of child sex slaves? When you're the fucking president?

Nice to see he clearly still cares about not wasting tax payer money cause that seems like an amazingly good deal to me.

65 grand for a bunch of sex slaves? Plus transport costs? And unlike if it were food, presumably the sex trafficker is gonna want those kids back so that's more transport costs.

Thats one hell of a deal... Try and match that trump!
 
But then why does the info graphic also show emails involving people directly talking about animal sacrifice? Assuming they aren't joke emails, why do they talk about pedophilia in code but not Satanism? Neither are particularly popular.

For that matter why do there seem to be so few such emails? Surely if this were a big part of your life, you'd either be using code and talking about it a LOT, or you wouldn't talk about it over email at all?

Again it just seems like people using whatever interpretation is most favorable at the time. Which is a classic way to start imagining things that aren't there.

Jess, it is satanism to sacrifice children to Moloch. That is mentioned. It seems like you're scraping the bottom of the barrel for any excuse not to believe it. They clearly talk about raping children and sacrificing them to Moloch. That's satanic activity. And like I said Obama spent $65,000 to fly "pizza/dogs" from Chicago to a private party in the White House. That's little children.
 
You guys just clearly are in denial. That's why I didn't want to share the evidence in the first place. It's right in front of your face and you still make excuses. If you don't believe it, you're a part of the problem.
 
Jess, it is satanism to sacrifice children to Moloch. That is mentioned. It seems like you're scraping the bottom of the barrel for any excuse not to believe it. They clearly talk about raping children and sacrificing them to Moloch. That's satanic activity. And like I said Obama spent $65,000 to fly "pizza/dogs" from Chicago to a private party in the White House. That's little children.

You completely ignored my argument. I asked how it was consistent to talk about code words in one case but openly in another. And it seems like you literally didn't even see me say it...
 
You guys just clearly are in denial. That's why I didn't want to share the evidence in the first place. It's right in front of your face and you still make excuses. If you don't believe it, you're a part of the problem.

What evidence? You haven't actually established any evidence whatsoever yet.

Establishing evidence would involve specifically pointing to the original posted emails for a start. Anyone can make shit up for an info graphic.

I can give you an infographic of you confessing to murdering Jimmy Hoffa. That's not evidence.
 
The $65,000 pizza bill was debunked pretty handily already. That email was not from podesta, Clinton, or Obama. Instead it seems to be a joke sent by a member of Stratfor security...
 
@Meth novice 79 This is about Crowley sacrificing children since you were asking. Right from his book.

Aleister Crowley on Human Sacrifice

This is a chapter taken from the book “Magick in Theory and Practice” by Aleister Crowley. The text contains comments from the editor. The term “FRATER PERDURABO” is used by the editor to refer to Crowley. The editor seems to try to obfuscate what Crowley is saying when he talks about sacrificing humans, which is marked in blue in the text.



CHAPTER XII

OF THE BLOODY SACRIFICE: AND MATTERS COGNATE

It is necessary for us to consider carefully the problems connected with the bloody sacrifice, for this question is indeed traditionally important in Magick.

(...)


"The animal should therefore be killed within the Circle, or the Triangle, as the case may be, so that its energy cannot escape. An animal should be selected whose nature accords with that of the ceremony — thus, by sacrificing a female lamb one would not obtain any appreciate quantity of the fierce energy useful to a Magician who was invoking Mars. In such a case a ram would be more suitable. And this ram should be virgin — the whole potential of its original total energy should not have been diminished in any way. For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory and suitable victim. For evocations it would be more convenient to place the blood of the victim in the Triangle — the idea being that the spirit might obtain from the blood this subtle but physical substance which was the quintessence of its life in such a manner as to enable it to take on a visible and tangible shape.

Those magicians who object to the use of blood have endeavored to replace it with incense. For such a purpose the incense of Abramelin may be burnt in large quantities. Dittany of Crete is also a valuable medium. Both these incenses are very catholic in their nature, and suitable for almost any materialization. But the bloody sacrifice, though more dangerous, is more efficacious; and for nearly all purposes human sacrifice is the best."

I feel like I’ve read that somewhere before 😐

Ok maybe he’s a creeper too, not my fault I was raised weird 😂😂😂😂
 
But then why does the info graphic also show emails involving people directly talking about animal sacrifice? Assuming they aren't joke emails, why do they talk about pedophilia in code but not Satanism? Neither are particularly popular.

For that matter why do there seem to be so few such emails? Surely if this were a big part of your life, you'd either be using code and talking about it a LOT, or you wouldn't talk about it over email at all?

Again it just seems like people using whatever interpretation is most favorable at the time. Which is a classic way to start imagining things that aren't there.

Btw if you looked at the code, "chicken" isn't actually a chicken. Chicken is code for young boy. So he's talking about sacrificing a young boy to Moloch, not an actual chicken.
 
I have already researched this more than I ever wanted too.

All you have shown me (I haven't actually seen any Obama evidence yet it must be on one of your other posts I didn't check) is some emails about pizza with absolutely NO context. I know all too well how shit can be taken out of context. And it's not even that impressive taking no context.

And then there are the inconsistencies that make me distrust the source, like how they both argue that they talk about it openly when an email is an obvious joke, and how also in code when they need to create their own interpretation.

It stinks of manipulative coercive ways of convincing people.

I've pointed out several very basic logical flaws that give me reason to doubt. And you seem to have just ignored them.

I believe that you believe this stuff. I believe that you find it unbelievable that anyone couldn't. But that's because you are not evaluating it the way I am. You think it's because I'm blind, I think it's because you're ignorant of the fallibility of the human mind.
 
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The $65,000 pizza bill was debunked pretty handily already. That email was not from podesta, Clinton, or Obama. Instead it seems to be a joke sent by a member of Stratfor security...

Debunked is bullshit. Of course they're going to say it's debunked. They're trying to cover it up. Podesta and Clinton were not investigated and what goes on at Comet Ping Pong wasn't investigated either because the police and the justice system aren't going to touch it. They're in on it.
 
Btw if you looked at the code, "chicken" isn't actually a chicken. Chicken is code for young boy. So he's talking about sacrificing a young boy to Moloch, not an actual chicken.

But why is moloch not also written in code? Why is sacrifice not written in code?

Why would you so openly discuss Satanism but not pedophilia if you want to keep both quiet? It doesn't make sense...

Also you say chicken is code for boy. Where is your evidence of that?

I can't know that's code pedophiles use rather than an interpretation of conspiracy theorists while reading the emails looking for shit.

I haven't ever been able to establish that such code words existed before pizza gate. And if it didn't, well you can argue anything once you say it's being spoken of in code and you get to also make up the code words!

I've looked before, the conspiracy theorists always just say "this is known code used by pedophiles" but never provide any evidence that that was ever true outside of pizza gate.
 
Of course no one is going to come out and tell you the code the President and other government officials are using, get real!

There's more code in the Comet Ping Pong pictures. That man holding a child with hashtag "chickenlovers". That means pedophiles who love young boys. It's so obvious. Don't believe it then. Wasting my time.

He says sacrificing a chicken to Moloch. If you weren't in the know, you wouldn't know what the hell that means if I didnt explain it to you. Plus those are private emails. Some things might slip out. They didn't think Wikileaks would leak them.
 
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But why is moloch not also written in code? Why is sacrifice not written in code?

Why would you so openly discuss Satanism but not pedophilia if you want to keep both quiet? It doesn't make sense...

Also you say chicken is code for boy. Where is your evidence of that?

I can't know that's code pedophiles use rather than an interpretation of conspiracy theorists while reading the emails looking for shit.

I haven't ever been able to establish that such code words existed before pizza gate. And if it didn't, well you can argue anything once you say it's being spoken of in code and you get to also make up the code words!

Is this because you don’t think Obama could ever do anything wrong? ☺️
 
He says sacrificing a chicken to Moloch. If you weren't in the know, you wouldn't know what the hell that means if I didnt explain it to you. Plus those are private emails. Some things might slip out. They didn't think Wikileaks would leak them.

Oh bullshit. Everyone knows what sacrifice means. And we all have Wikipedia and quickly can Google moloch.

And if they were private emails and didn't think they'd come out, why talk in code at all?

And you say I am making bad defenses...

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You make one argument, that they didn't think it'd leak, to excuse openly talking of satanic sacrifices. Yet also that they did have such fears, and that chicken in that email meant boy.

It makes no sense... Unless you assume that someone is taking all this shit, and trying to use whatever argument is most persuasive at the time to form a coherent narrative where none existed.
 
Oh bullshit. Everyone knows what sacrifice means. And we all have Wikipedia and quickly can Google moloch.

And if they were private emails and didn't think they'd come out, why talk in code at all?

And you say I am making bad defenses...

This is exactly what I'm talking about. You make one argument, that they didn't think it'd leak, to excuse openly talking of satanic sacrifices. Yet also that they did have such fears, and that chicken in that email meant boy.

You're nitpicking. The entire thing is obvious what's going on and you want to focus on the word "sacrifice" and ignore the entire thing and also what goes on at Comet Ping Pong and Tony Podesta's "pizza parties" and "artwork" of bondaged children.

But yeah, keep laser focusing on the word "sacrifice" Jess and ignoring the rest. Keep your eyes shut. I don't care anymore.
 
You're nitpicking. The entire thing is obvious what's going on and you want to focus on the word "sacrifice" and ignore the entire thing and also what goes on at Comet Ping Pong and Tony Podesta's "pizza parties" and "artwork" of bondaged children.

But yeah, keep laser focusing on the word "sacrifice" Jess and ignoring the rest. Keep your eyes shut. I don't care anymore.

I'll take this as your admission that it's inconsistent reasoning.

And yeah, I am nitpicking. I just can't sit quietly and take it all as unquestioning fact. I gotta go and ask questions and poke holes...

Wait.. Isn't that what conspiracy theorists always say they're doing? Geeze they can give it but they sure can't take it.
 
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