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I like this but I think it is pretty easy for a psychopath or aspd person to score low on a PCL R test if they are actively trying not to appear psychopathic

Apparently it isn't as it's conducted cleverly to catch them out. I'm sure it's beatable though by the most cunning. Hopefully identification can become better over time (brain scans perhaps?)
 
I bring this up a lot - how advanced, progressive and intelligent we think of ourselves these days and it's worth noting that people in a century or two from now are going to look back at us like we were fucking retards.

Oh, most definitely!!

Our lack of seriousness in regards to climate change. Our destruction of the natural world. Our turning a blind eye to the concentration camps in China in order to keep our cheap goods flowing. The American prison industry.
Continuing slavery, mostly in the Arab world.
Whatever the hell American healthcare is supposed to be....care for the wealthy, I guess.
Massive income inequalities.
Tax dodging billionaires.
Flat-earthers.
Our drugs policies.
Factory farming.
Reality TV and social media.
This list could go on for some time, eh?
 
Alright, @JGrimez, thanks for the answer finally in regards to the prescription for dealing with the um....NWO or whatever you want to call them.

I can agree with the psychological assessments you proposed, though I'm not sure how much use they would be.
 
Disclaimer to avert a shit-fit: none of the following is intended as a personal attack.

I grew up a devout Zionist and I did not want to accept that those guys had a hand in 9/11

Are you serious about this? As I understood it, "JEWS DID WTC"was nothing more than a clever prank of sorts, conducted by the infamous GNAA. They even managed to get some CNN reporters to discuss said JEWS who DID WTC. Nice trolling, guys, but minus several million points for good taste, hm?

that doesn't automatically mean that companies aren't knowingly inserting things into vaccines which they know will cause harm

Why would they do that? Any independent researcher wirh suitable patience and instrumentation would be able to prove or disprove that statement quite easily. And it seems like a bit of a faux pas to basically sabotage your product with bad PR simply to put harmful shit into it for the same of being mean. The pharma higher-ups may be greedy, but they also seem to want to keep as clean an image as possible, and I wouldn't pin them as people who want to make shit harder for themselves.

I also find it very hard to discount this strannge correlation: rather than an improvement in hygeine causing reduction in many different infections and an increase in the public health, the major diseases disappeared one after the other. Initially smallpox became less of an issue (around the discovery of variolization, i.e. a crude early form of a vaccine), then as the years passed and other vaccines were devloped and introduced, the diseases dropped off one after the other.

I guess you could always say that it's coincidence, or look for whatever other factors, but to me I see a direct association: people get vaccinated, disease disappears. Simple enough, and the underlying logic is sound.

gree. Read the vaccine insert. They're insane.
The package insert for most pohamraceutical products is similar - it's basically ass-covering with a smidgen of some useful data.
Just because there are a very small number of fatalities after vaccination (devil's advocate: How can you be sure the vaccination directly caused death, and it's not coincidence?) does not mean they are overall harmful.

Have you ever hard of Stevens-Johnsons syndrome? It's an incredibly rare condition, also incredibly unpleasant and potentially lethal, which can be triggered in some people by administration of any of a wide variety of pharmaceuticals: There's no rhyme or reason to what can cause it: I count more than 20 agents on the Wikipedia page, including penicillin, ibuprofen, barbiturates, valproiic acid, even acetaminophen is considered a possible risk factor.

Does this mean that we should avoid using all of those (remarkabluy useful) pharmaceuticals? I would argue that doing so would be ridiculous and would hamstring the medical field.

"CO2 warming the Earth" theory has not even been proven and there's reliable data to show that the world is in fact cooling right now, or at least plateauing.
Are you unaware iof CO2's well established properties as both a thermal insulator and an absorberr of infrared? It's easy to demonstrate (and is a statment of fact, as I see it) that adding CO2 to a controlled atmosphere in a pressure chamber will encourage retention of heat. Why would it do so on a small scale, but not do soon a larger scale?

Food for thought as well: an increase of 200 ppm in atmospheric Co2 may seem like nothing at all, but whenyou multiply 200 ppm by the violume of the Earth's atmosphere, that equates to an impressive amount of CO2 that has appeared these last few hundred years.

there's reliable data to show that the world is in fact cooling right now, or at least plateauing.

Maybe we were educated in graph reading differently, but the data I see (namely from Environment Canada, NOAA, and/or NASA) is indicative of a rise in temperatures pretty much across the board. I do have some faith in humanity left after all. Maybe an organization like NASA would fuck up, but if they did so knowingly they'd strive to correct the error and provide acccurate data. I do have some faith in some parts of the government - I wouldn't be able to function if every government and every corporation are automatically assumed to be lying about whatever or have ulterior motives. Yes, there are shitty people and liars, and yes they do end up in positions of trust and power, but statsistically having a totally homogenous composition of assholes in any group of moderate size is not very likely at all.
 
Are you serious about this? As I understood it, "JEWS DID WTC"was nothing more than a clever prank of sorts, conducted by the infamous GNAA. They even managed to get some CNN reporters to discuss said JEWS who DID WTC. Nice trolling, guys, but minus several million points for good taste, hm?
Jews do not equal Israel do not equal Zionists. It's disingenuous to conflate the two in order to debunk facts. You can start by looking at the police reports of the 'dancing Israelis' who were working for a Mossad front known as Urban Moving Systems. Seems you need to do more research. And no I wouldn't joke about something as serious as this. I've lost close friends over speaking the truth and I completely understand why.

Why would they do that?
Plenty of reasons once you understand psychopathic agendas. Understanding that governments aren't attempting to improve our health (but in fact quite the opposite) is a good start. Plenty of examples across a wide range of industries and government policies.

I guess you could always say that it's coincidence, or look for whatever other factors, but to me I see a direct association: people get vaccinated, disease disappears. Simple enough, and the underlying logic is sound.
Just ignore all the vaccine injuries including the fact that vaccine-strain polio injuries are now greater than wild polio. So yeah you're just repeating assumptions while ignoring evidence that counters this claim. If something does more harm than good then a rational, unbiased person may sit up and change their mind. However I think this is one of your (and many others') "sacred cows" namely that vaccines are safe and effective. It's not this claim that's difficult to believe, it's that elites are aware of this and have managed to hoodwink so many medical professionals. I get it.

Does this mean that we should avoid using all of those (remarkabluy useful) pharmaceuticals? I would argue that doing so would be ridiculous and would hamstring the medical field.
It means that people should be informed of the actual risks and then given their own choice. If you disagree then you're a medical fascist who also ignores all the medical professionals who agree with me. It's a human right to resist being 'medicated' by the state.

Are you unaware iof CO2's well established properties as both a thermal insulator and an absorberr of infrared? It's easy to demonstrate (and is a statment of fact, as I see it) that adding CO2 to a controlled atmosphere in a pressure chamber will encourage retention of heat. Why would it do so on a small scale, but not do soon a larger scale?
The Earth's atmosphere is not a backyard greenhouse.

Food for thought as well: an increase of 200 ppm in atmospheric Co2 may seem like nothing at all, but whenyou multiply 200 ppm by the violume of the Earth's atmosphere, that equates to an impressive amount of CO2 that has appeared these last few hundred years.
Again correlation. And you'd have to first even prove that higher CO2 concentrations is in fact a negative thing.

Or to put it another way, you're suggesting that adding 0.014% of gas to the total greenhouse gases is significantly affecting the earth's climate. Even by looking at historical data, CO2 follows temperature changes, not precedes it. This wild claim that CO2 levels is somehow a control knob for global temperature has not been proven. Claiming it is is an appeal to authority and authorities that have been caught consistently lying and manipulating data (Climategate, Mann vs Ball etc). The climate change agenda is one of the most powerful and highly politicized in the world.

Maybe we were educated in graph reading differently, but the data I see (namely from Environment Canada, NOAA, and/or NASA) is indicative of a rise in temperatures pretty much across the board.
Are you aware that Mann's hockey stick graph was fabricated? What do you think of that graph? Is it smart to base your beliefs on manipulated data? That's what the UN did and I assume you trust them. Go have a scroll through Ned Nokolov PhD's Twitter to see some evidence that you've probably never seen in your life (definitely not from the mainstream). Also check out the NASA study which shows increased CO2 is greening the Earth. What level of CO2 is too low whereby all life will die? What's the ideal level of CO2? What's the ideal temperature for the Earth? Difficult questions (I actually hope it's warming as opposed to cooling).

I do have some faith in some parts of the government
Putting faith in government institutions seems crazy to me. They should be the most scrutinized at all times. Political agendas constantly override unbiased science.

I wouldn't be able to function if every government and every corporation are automatically assumed to be lying about whatever or have ulterior motives.
Welcome to my world. You'll be fine. Join the club. Doesn't mean I think "everything is fake" but a healthy dose of skepticism is required, especially considering track records and conflicts of interest.

Yes, there are shitty people and liars, and yes they do end up in positions of trust and power, but statsistically having a totally homogenous composition of assholes in any group of moderate size is not very likely at all.
To me this shows an ignorance of political and corporate psychopathy. Rising up the ranks and compartmentalizaton is all that is needed to enact psychopathic agendas and to spread evil on a macrosocial level. For some further reading.
 
the police reports of the 'dancing Israelis' who were working for a Mossad front known as Urban Moving Systems.
I've heard the story. Frankly I don't know what to make of it. I don't view it as proof towards Israeli involvement in the 9/11 plot though.

Plenty of examples across a wide range of industries and government policies.
Maybe it's due to being a Canadian, but in my experience, our government can be a byzantine bueraucracy, but most people involved in day-to-day functioning do take at least a little pride in their work. I know people who work in the Federal government as well as the administrative staff of one of the universities here, and they describe a similar picture. I would absolutely believe it's a different scenario "south of the border" though.

that vaccine-strain polio injuries are now greater than wild polio.
Isn't that what you'd expect? A related thing happens when you attempt to test for infrequent conditions with a test that has less than perfect accuracy: most of the positives will be false positives. And a crude form of ethical calculus suggests that in a tradeoff between the return of viral polio, and a small but nonzero amount of polio vaccine reactions, the reactions are undouibtedly less harmful to fewer people, overall.

However I think this is one of your (and many others') "sacred cows" namely that vaccines are safe and effective.

The WHO rates of any negative reaction to a vaccine are suprisingly low: 1 per 2 million cases. Here in Canada we monitor the incidence of vaccine neagtive reactions and publish the data. The figures for 2018 show that, between every single vaccne administered in a calendar year there are only about 250 serious reactions total. Counting even realtively mild reactions like skin irritation, rash, pain at the injection site etc gives a worst case number of about 3000 cases, The yearly birth rate in Canada is 385,000 surviving children per year. If we are super pessimistic and assume only 1/4 of them are vaccinated every year (a gross undersimplification I think), the rate of mild reactions is 3 percent, severe lethal reactions 0.25%. That number is an absolute worst case, mind you, but still looks superior to the rate of complications someone would experience if they had whooping cough.

Out of my peer group and extended family (and thirty or so of my elementary school classmates - school children generally are given meningitis and Hepatitis B vaccines in grade 4 here in Canada. You can opt out but it is generally accepted as nothing to be concerned over.) I can't say I have met personally anyone who has experienced a negative response to vaccination, beyond one girl in high school with a fear of needles, who had a panic attack. I am also thankful that nobody in my social circles has suffered whooping cough, or measles, or any number of the other nasties. And a very entertaining Maltese woman who lives in my building actually recieved BCG vaccine as an immunotherapy for bladder cancer - as far as the we can tell she's doing much better now, so I can actually proivide a concrete example of vaccines doing some good. My mother had actually suffered tuberculosis as a child and survived - between that and an education in virology/genetics she is very confident in the beneficial effect of vaccination.

So it's not a sacred cow belief as I understand it. I figure between my personal observations and experiences, the established mechanism of vaccines and how they prime the immune system, and a little bit of trust in humanity, I am personally in favour of vaccinating children reasonably quickly. I don't exactly trust the brain of a 6 year old to be able to make a learned judgement about the risks, and know from experience some people will opt out simply 'cause they don't want to get poked with a scary needle. Between my two brothers and I, none of us have any complaints nor regrets of being vaccinated as children. I'm sure if I were aware of multiple cases of death or other awful consequence from vaccinations occuring on the regular, I'd think otherwise.

I checked out Vaxxed too. After I realized that Wakefield himself was behind the production I suddenly lost all interest. You discount governmental statements - I tend to reject statements from profiteering fearmongers who were struck off the medical register. Turnabout is fair play, right?

The Earth's atmosphere is not a backyard greenhouse.
I would argue it's the backyard greenhouse, the most important one we have actually. What makes you so certain that it cannot be modeled?

his wild claim that CO2 levels is somehow a control knob for global temperature has not been proven.
I don't think I ever made the claim that CO2 is the sole factor causing global warming. That's an oversimplification of course - there are a multitude of factors that play into the maintenance of a steady state in the enviroment, CO2 levels being only one factor. There are different sources and sinks for CO2, diffusion takes time to move CO2 across global distances, and also factors like clouds, greenery, and polar ice will alter the surface albedo, and change the temerature somehow. James Lovelock and his Gaia hypothesis, while a little hokey, are an interesting way to view the Earth's dynamics, SimEarth is a useful little toy to play with too...

I was also well aware of CO2's effect on plant growth. I've met farmers of both marijuana as well as other greenhouse plants that actually vent the furnace flue gases directly into the greenhouses, providing both heating in the winter months, and elevated levels of the limiting resource needed in plant growth. I think it's up int he air (pardon the pun) whether or not that will counteract the insulatory effect of CO2.

CO2 follows temperature changes, not precedes it.
Where did I claim that CO2 causes instantaneous temperature increase? It's like adding a winter coat as an extra layer if you are cold: the application of the coat doesn't raise the temperatures directly, it simply reduces heat loss from your core, and will take some time to reflect an appropriate amount of heat to warm you up fully. Now factor in the humongous volume of the global atmosphere, and the relatively long time it takes for total mixing of gases in one area, and the effects of smoothing on the ice-core temperture data... doesn't seem that strange to me.

Like I keep saying, it's elementary physics to demonstrate CO2 has an effect as an insulator. Why would this property disappear on a larger scale? Would you also discount the insulatory effect of other gases with much stronger insulating effects, like nitrous oxide or Halon/Freons?

And out of curiosity, what do you consider to be evidence that proves a causal relationship? You don't seem to be a very stong believer in determinism.

Are you aware that Mann's hockey stick graph was fabricated? What do you think of that graph?
I was aware of that, actually. I never referenced it or mentioned it for that reason. There's other graphs done by other people, drawn with data from other sourcers too. Is the implication that there are no data sources you would consider trustworthy enough to use? Because most sources I check (off the top of my head, Environment Canada, NOAA, NASA, historical records of weather station observations, and even things like my friend's amateur temerature logger constructed from an Arduino), all show a rise in global temperatures. Not a catastrophic one, but definitely measurable. Occam's razor says it's more likely that the temperatures are accurrate, than the alternative, which would be all of these suppsedly independent organizations all basically coming up with the same incorrect data. For all the good it'll do, Wikipedia and a selection of other sites are confident enough to declsre a general consensus that the Earth is warming. There was a review paper which checked a truly absurd number of published studies on temperature (on the order of several thousand) and the agreement was that temperatures have gone up.

Welcome to my world. You'll be fine. Join the club. Doesn't mean I think "everything is fake" but a healthy dose of skepticism is required, especially considering track records and conflicts of interest.

I think what you would consider healthy skepticism, I would view as a chronic distrust of authority. I am definitely not as quick to shoot down publications by research organizations or even the portions of government that actually focus on scientific methodology just bevause they came from an authority. That's the opposite of the meaning of the word "authority" as I understand it.

I hate the phrase, but maybe we will have to agree to disagree... thank you for an engaging discussion, even if we can't seem to agree on anything at all. It's an opportunity for me to write more, which I'm finding myself doing a lot of...
 
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I've heard the story. Frankly I don't know what to make of it. I don't view it as proof towards Israeli involvement in the 9/11 plot though.
It's one strong piece of the puzzle. There was also a lot of insider trading that went on right before the attacks, like some big trades shorting the airlines. A few studies were done that showed, based on previous trading behavior, it was not possible for some of these trades to have been made without some kind of foreknowledge. I was only made aware of this a few months ago The way that the authorities swept this under the rug was by saying something like "no perpetrators of the attack were shown to have any links to any insider trading". Well ok that would be true if they were lying about who perpetrated the attacks. You'd think all that insider trading would warrant a thorough investigation?

Maybe it's due to being a Canadian, but in my experience, our government can be a byzantine bueraucracy, but most people involved in day-to-day functioning do take at least a little pride in their work.
Compartmentalization. The average person is a good person just doing their job trying not to f**k anyone else over, even government employees. However the higher one rises the more corruption they encounter and the more power they accrue the more likely they are to be accosted or compromised.

So it's not a sacred cow belief as I understand it. I figure between my personal observations and experiences, the established mechanism of vaccines and how they prime the immune system, and a little bit of trust in humanity
If you genuinely care about the issue and refuse to watch a video like this in its entirety objectively then yes I would claim it is a sacred cow of yours. The Irrefutable Argument Against Vaccine Safety - with Author Del Bigtree (or at the very least watch VAXXED)

I am personally in favour of vaccinating children reasonably quickly. I don't exactly trust the brain of a 6 year old to be able to make a learned judgement about the risks, and know from experience some people will opt out simply 'cause they don't want to get poked with a scary needle.
I don't understand why you're making this terrible argument. You're advocating for taking away the choice of a parent to medicate their child and you're also going against the many health professionals who are speaking out against vaccines. This is the type of thinking that I constantly ridicule and criticize because imo it's bordering on ignorant fascism and supportive of child abuse. You might be wrong but you are arrogantly refusing to admit that at the expense of the health (or life) of another person's child.

I would argue it's the backyard greenhouse, the most important one we have actually. What makes you so certain that it cannot be modeled?
So far the global warming alarmists' models have been widely inaccurate. If this were the early to mid-90's you'd be repeating what the IPCC were saying. Now we're in 2020 looking back at their predictions and should be scratching our heads and showing extreme skepticism but some of are continuing to believe them and their models.

I don't think I ever made the claim that CO2 is the sole factor causing global warming. That's an oversimplification of course - there are a multitude of factors that play into the maintenance of a steady state in the enviroment, CO2 levels being only one factor. There are different sources and sinks for CO2, diffusion takes time to move CO2 across global distances, and also factors like clouds, greenery, and polar ice will alter the surface albedo, and change the temerature somehow. James Lovelock and his Gaia hypothesis, while a little hokey, are an interesting way to view the Earth's dynamics, SimEarth is a useful little toy to play with too...
I notice you left out the sun which is why I think you've been propagandized and are unwilling to objectively assess opposing arguments.

I think it's up int he air (pardon the pun) whether or not that will counteract the insulatory effect of CO2.
CO2 makes up 3% of the greenhouse gases. Manmade contributions is a fraction of that. 97% is water vapour which we can do nothing about. While clouds/albedo do have a lot to do with the process - the primary driver of climate - by far - OBVIOUSLY - is solar activity. If a 'science-backed' source of media tries to downplay this then you can be sure they're being deceptive about climate change (and there are a lot of people being deceptive about climate change).

Like I keep saying, it's elementary physics to demonstrate CO2 has an effect as an insulator. Why would this property disappear on a larger scale? Would you also discount the insulatory effect of other gases with much stronger insulating effects, like nitrous oxide or Halon/Freons?
The earth's "greenhouse" effect is a function of the sun and atmospheric pressure, which results from gravity and the mass of the atmosphere, rather than the amount of greenhouse gases such as CO2 and water vapor in the atmosphere.

The same is true for other planets and moons with a hard surface, the authors contend, pointing to the temperature and atmospheric data of various celestial bodies collected by NASA.

So precise is the formula, the authors of the paper told WND, that, by using it, they were able to correctly predict the temperature of other celestial bodies not included in their original analysis.

The paper, published recently in the journal "Environment Pollution and Climate Change," was written by Ned Nikolov, a Ph.D. in physical science, and Karl Zeller, retired Ph.D. research meteorologist.

The prevailing theory on the earth's temperature is that heat from the sun enters the atmosphere, and then greenhouse gases such as CO2, methane and water vapor trap part of that energy by preventing it from escaping back into space.

That theory, which underpins the anthropogenic global-warming hypothesis and the climate models used by the United Nations, was first proposed and developed in the 19th century.

However, the experiments on which it was based involved glass boxes that retain heat by preventing the mixing of air inside the box with air outside the box.


I was aware of that, actually. I never referenced it or mentioned it for that reason.
Yeah but you're getting information from institutions who were promoting this guy and his fraudulent graph.

There was a review paper which checked a truly absurd number of published studies on temperature (on the order of several thousand) and the agreement was that temperatures have gone up.
Well Obama repeated the claim by cartoonist John Cook that "97% of scientists agree with anthropogenic global warming" or something like that. But that claim turned out to also be false based on the disingenuous way that Cook was interpreting the results of studies. Turns out it was close to 3% some sources say less than 1%. I posted a TON of science in the Anthropogenic Climate Change thread. Again if you genuinely care you can peruse that and see valid opposing arguments from credible scientists. But I'm done wasting time arguing this with someone who is unwilling to alter their point of view.

I hate the phrase, but maybe we will have to agree to disagree...
Yes sounds good.
 
TBH everyone should really watch this



Wow very interesting what he says at 1:07:40

.Del Bigtree said:
You are just around the corner. Had Hillary Clinton gotten into office (and I don't mean to make this political) but she was going to push through Healthy People 2020 - forced vaccinations for all. Your next liberal Democrat most likely will push that system through. I'm not saying Donald Trump's a great president, what I'm saying is he seems to have pushed a pause button on force-vaccinating everybody in this country. OK, we're that close. We're one election away from losing the rights to control our own bodies.

or one virus scare.
 
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How Much Money Do Pediatricians Really Make From Vaccines?
How Much Money Do Pediatricians Really Make From Vaccines?

After a reader sent us a link to a PDF file of Blue Cross Blue Shield’s Physician Incentive Program available online, Wellness & Equality learned that insurance companies pay pediatricians massive bonuses based on the percentage of children who are fully vaccinated by age 2.


So how much money do doctors really make from vaccines? The average American pediatrician has 1546 patients, though some pediatricians see many more. The vast majority of those patients are very young, perhaps because children transition to a family physician or stop visiting the doctor at all as they grow up. As they table above explains, Blue Cross Blue Shield pays pediatricians $400 per fully vaccinated child. If your pediatrician has just 100 fully-vaccinated patients turning 2 this year, that’s $40,000. Yes, Blue Cross Blue Shield pays your doctor a $40,000 bonus for fully vaccinating 100 patients under the age of 2. If your doctor manages to fully vaccinate 200 patients, that bonus jumps to $80,000.

But here’s the catch: Under Blue Cross Blue Shield’s rules, pediatricians lose the whole bonus unless at least 63% of patients are fully vaccinated, and that includes the flu vaccine. So it’s not just $400 on your child’s head–it could be the whole bonus. To your doctor, your decision to vaccinate your child might be worth $40,000, or much more, depending on the size of his or her practice.

If your pediatrician recommends that your child under the age of 2 receive the flu vaccine–even though the flu vaccine has never been studied in very young children and evidence suggests that the flu vaccine actually weakens a person’s immune system over the long term–ask yourself: Is my doctor more concerned with selling me vaccines to keep my child healthy or to send his child to private school?

Sources:
The Physician Alliance Blue Cross Blue Shield Incentive Program [Please read our update below to find out how you can access the pamphlet.]

Update 4/30/2017: After Wellness & Equality published this article, Blue Cross Blue Shield locked online access to their incentive program and then removed the page altogether. Clearly this incentive program was never intended to be public knowledge and created a bit of PR issue for them. Fortunately, another website managed to save the entire BCBS incentive program booklet and has published it in entirety online… You can read it here: Blue Cross Blue Shield Physician Incentive Program

Getting A Flu Shot Every Year? More May Not Be Better

Distribution of Pediatric Practice: Size, Age, Sex

Jon Rappoport interview of ex vaccine researcher
Excerpt:
A: Vaccines are the last defense of modern medicine. Vaccines are the ultimate justification for the overall "brilliance" of modern medicine.

Q: Do you believe that people should be allowed to choose whether they should get vaccines?

A: On a political level, yes. On a scientific level, people need information, so that they can choose well. It's one thing to say choice is good. But if the atmosphere is full of lies, how can you choose? Also, if the FDA were run by honorable people, these vaccines would not be granted licenses. They would be investigated to within an inch of their lives.

Q: There are medical historians who state that the overall decline of illnesses was not due to vaccines.

A: I know. For a long time, I ignored their work.


 
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From a Facebook post...

**WARNING FOR PEOPLE WITH COVID-19 PLEASE SHARE***
My moms friend, her husband and daughter where all diagnosed with COVID-19 out of the 3 the Husband was hospitalized. The wife asked the husband to let her know if they try to put him on a ventilator and to absolutely not let them put him on one. He has been at Parkland for a week or so. A couple of days ago the wife gets a call from her husbands nurse. She called attempting to get authorization to put her husband on a ventilator. unaware that the wife had spoke with her husband(the patient) 2 hours prior to getting the call from the nurse. My moms friend stated that her husband was getting better the hospital even decreased his oxygen use. so when the nurse called it didnt make sense. The wife worries and in disbelief said she would not authorize it. How the hell was he fine earlier and then 2 hours later in such a bad shape that he needed a ventilator? the nurse explained Covid can suddenly worsen in a couple of hours. The nurse insisted she give approval, the wife kept saying no, she even was given 3 minutes to make a decision. The nurse said she Doctor needed to know ASAP. She asked the nurse to speak to her husband and the nurse said he was in such bad shape that it was impossible. She insisted she speak to her husband again and the nurse kept saying she could not as he was in critical condition. Luckily the wife had left her husband a cell phone and she was able to call him. Franticly she called and spoke to him, he answered the phone calmly explaining he was doing great and had no idea what was going on or why the nurse would've called her stating that he was in such a bad state. My question is, what is really going on? are people getting better and getting killed to get money from the state? what would've happened had she given consent? its so many questions. if y'all know anyone who has this please don't believe everything the doctors or nurses say. Make sure your people are ok. Do exactly what she did and leave them access to a phone if possible. Its time we wake up they are killing us for money.
 


It won’t let me link it.

Let’s stay on topic here don’t want to get my thread closed.

Joe Biden tweets in October 2019, that president Trump is incapable of handling a global pandemic.

Which is quite interesting considering the fact we weren’t warned until February 2020....

Which further proves my point Joe Biden is involved and compromised by the CCP as I was saying in my other thread.

They knew they couldn’t win the election fairly so the CCP dropped covid to win the US election.

It’s fucking sickening.

Joe Biden is not my president, and he never will be. The stars are aligning Charges will be filed soon and the whole top will crumble.
 
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I like you man but you need to realize they are ALL crooked. The sooner you do the sooner you’ll be free. Biden is a piece of garbage yes, so is Trump. So is most of the politicians in office.. All this is nothing new it just feels like it is.

I used to go down the same rabbit holes, I also thought martial law was going to be enacted like 200 times since 9/11 if you believed all the bullshit online. Free yourself of this and focus on recovery.

-GC
 
I like you man but you need to realize they are ALL crooked. The sooner you do the sooner you’ll be free. Biden is a piece of garbage yes, so is Trump. So is most of the politicians in office.. All this is nothing new it just feels like it is.

I used to go down the same rabbit holes, I also thought martial law was going to be enacted like 200 times since 9/11 if you believed all the bullshit online. Free yourself of this and focus on recovery.

-GC

I’ve thought the same things since high school.

But this feels different.

I’ll try and focus on recovery I am trying it’s hard.

And I like you too, always solid advice.

It is a rabbit hole, but what if it’s right? Who cares? Do we just give up and die? I mean that’s not the person I am.

You’re right though this is a waste of my efforts I need to get into law school that’s what I’m doing

But you’re 100% right they’re all basically not innocent they all have some level of involvement in some scandal or another.
 
this thread is the very definition of adding 2 and 2 and getting 6000.

if you have proof that biden was involved, then let's see it. otherwise this is nothing.

"biden is evil"? that's a matter of opinion.

"he will never be president of the united states"? we'll see in about 3 weeks.

alasdair
 
this thread is the very definition of adding 2 and 2 and getting 6000.

if you have proof that biden was involved, then let's see it. otherwise this is nothing.

"biden is evil"? that's a matter of opinion.

"he will never be president of the united states"? we'll see in about 3 weeks.

alasdair

Yes we will, just joined a Facebook group 2 million Trump supporters saying they’ll be at the White House.

Good luck Biden
 
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