Heroin Considering First IV

[down508]

As an IV drug user if I could give you any advice on it, just don't do it. Once you do you will NEVER go back to any other ROA. If I could EVER take back one decision in my life, it would be the time I first decided to put a needle in my skin.

I'm sure most other IV users like myself would tell you the same thing.

I agree. it's not something you can undo. since I first shot up in early 2010 I haven't taken any drug by any other ROA's with the exception of suboxone and maybe xanax bars, but thats not because I didn't want to shoot them, it's becouse I couldn't find a good way to do it otherwise I would have shot those too. I.V. is an extremely powerful addiction, and like others said you can be just as if not more addicted to the needle as you are to the drugs.

people don't just try shootin heroin once and then never again, even if they planned on only doing it once. whatever you think now about only trying it once goes out the window when you do it.. It is kind of amazing how your mind changes so quickly. it's like after I.V.ing you're not the same person you used to be. so don't think that you are immune to addiction because your not completely strung out. if your not addicted now (which you might be without even knowing it) you should be grateful and try to minimize the chances of you not becoming addicted instead of doing even more addictive shit.

I'm really just repeating things I've said to other people who come on here and ask the same questions and say the same things about how they wont get addicted, but the truth is no one can tell you if you will or not. it's a very life changing decision that will follow you to the grave. if your young you can look forward to decades of being tormented by the monkey on your back (if you survive that long).

so with that being said I'm just goig to give you the straight talk. instead of weighing pros and cons and all that usual harm reduction shit, I'm just going to flat out say it:

DONT DO IT!

I think that's the best advice I can give you. I really hope you decide not to do it and recognize the part of you that wants to try it as a lite version of the urge you will feel after you try it.

if you decide to do it, which I pray you don't for the sake of yourself, your family, your friends, and just about every one who will suffer as a result of you deciding to do it.

 

[Midazle]

Wow...I realized no one just IV's Heroin or Dilaudid once but damn I just read some incredible posts....I know this doesn't count but I had Oxymorphone and Hydromorphone on separate occasions along with an absurd amount of benadryl and I just remember being just fucked, it was completely different than any other route I had tried. That said I feel like I could try it once, I really do...Ill eat my words since Heroin could be stronger than me but Im a pretty good judge of my current relationship with opioids. I know first time IV and first time anything with opioids is completely different but the latter is a stepping stone for sure, when I felt oxy the first time it was as if something in my life was missing but was now found...but I exercised extreme self control regardless.

Anyways...just remember to be safe about filtering, dirty needles, etc. In this day and age clean needles should be a given IF you have access to them....I would really hate to see another post about someone testing positive for HIV or Hep. or getting tissue damange that might lead to an amputation because of not filtering enough, hearing those stories really hits me hard so be careful guys!

 

[A2Z&NBETWEEN]

IF YOU BANG H IT WILL NOT BE YOUR LAST TIME. REMEMBER THAT ITS NOT WORTH IT. THE 1ST TIME IS GREAT IT GOES DOWN HILL FROM THERE. UNTIL YOU MAKE YOUR OWN H YOU DONT SHIT ABOUT IT. GO AHEAD AND SHOOT SOME CRAP YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT, YOLO BRO...sorry if i seem rude but dope is a joke yadamean

 

[Euphio]

Thanks for all of the great tips guys, much appreciated!

I still haven't tried it yet. Unfortunately I don't have any friends into iving, so I would have to do it by myself. This is the only thing that really worrys me...

Does plugging actually give you a rush? I've heard it's similar to eating it.. as in not that effective. I wanted to try smoking it but it's east coast powder junk.

The reason I want to try a different roa is because I haven't felt much euphoria from H.. I feel very relaxed and sedated but almost no euphoria. It's disappointing when you're expecting to be "wrapped in god's blanket" haha

Again, I really appreciate the advice and warnings. I think ill give plugging a shot first.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

I still haven't tried it yet. Unfortunately I don't have any friends into iving, so I would have to do it by myself. This is the only thing that really worrys me...

It should worry you. My life has literally been saved by having someone else there when injecting heroin. You should definitely have someone close by if you do ever decide to do it. Even if they aren't using themselves, or aren't even aware you are injecting it (like say you go into the bathroom and make something up like, "I'm feeling sick, if I'm not out in a few minutes can you check on me") at least if you're unconscious someone would be more likely to find you and call an ambulance as opposed to if you're just doing it at home alone. The best idea of course is to have someone right there who is fully aware of what you are doing and what to do in an emergency but having someone close by is better than being totally alone with no one to find you until it's too late.

 

[Euphio]

Yeah that's a good point..

You know, I don't think I'm gonna try it actually. It just seems to risky doing it by myself. I've taken too much nasally before, but was able to keep myself awake and out of harm. I'm sure I couldn't do that if I had ived too much...

Is it really a complete waste to smoke powder? And how much should I try for plugging? I know no roa is safe, but I decided to go the somewhat safer route.

Thanks all, really made my decision easier putting everything in perspective. if given the opportunity to do it with someone I might, but I'm not gonna risk the solo iv

 

[Fuelmeonce]

Yeah that's a good point..

You know, I don't think I'm gonna try it actually. It just seems to risky doing it by myself. I've taken too much nasally before, but was able to keep myself awake and out of harm. I'm sure I couldn't do that if I had ived too much...

Is it really a complete waste to smoke powder? And how much should I try for plugging? I know no roa is safe, but I decided to go the somewhat safer route.

Thanks all, really made my decision easier putting everything in perspective. if given the opportunity to do it with someone I might, but I'm not gonna risk the solo iv

I'm glad you're gonna hold off. The thing is, if you do too much when snorting, generally the user will throw up, and get sick trying to get the substance out of their body. Once you IV, it's all in your blood and there's no turning back once the plunger goes down. It's a dark nasty evil drug that totally fucked my life up and many other ppl I know. It'll have you stealing from your best friends and family. Just not worth it brotha.

 

[Z3R0S]

lol sry for my previous advice bud... i myself have personally never whacked and never plan too, im guessing youv never seen any1 lose themselves on it? well it happened pretty fast and all i would hear is 'im not on it mate' (all slurred and shit with pin eye holes).. then he whacked some ice i had and bam, became the biggest untrusting dog iv ever met, searching my room and shit for more when i wasnt home(i used to leave my laptop open with motion detection camera on), what im trying to say is, once you whack 1 substance you wanna whack them all because the flood gates open and its usually no going back from there, because to use any other method would be to waste watever substance your thinking. plus once u whack it nothing ever equates to it so thats the only method you wanna use again, once you whack you never go back. i find that if your already considering it tho youv already justified it and no1 can warn you enough so ul probably go do it anyway haha anyways good luck
peacee

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Yeah that's a good point..

You know, I don't think I'm gonna try it actually. It just seems to risky doing it by myself. I've taken too much nasally before, but was able to keep myself awake and out of harm. I'm sure I couldn't do that if I had ived too much...

Is it really a complete waste to smoke powder? And how much should I try for plugging? I know no roa is safe, but I decided to go the somewhat safer route.

Thanks all, really made my decision easier putting everything in perspective. if given the opportunity to do it with someone I might, but I'm not gonna risk the solo iv

Smoking it would be a pretty big waste, yeah. Unless you have really good technique, (which requires a lot of practice) smoking ECP is pointless. You'll just end up destroying your dope.

The most efficient ROA besides IV is plugging, even more effective then intranasal use, which you are already accustomed to.

Have you checked out our Plugging Megathread? There is a lot of great info there.


Also, I'm stoked you decided not to try IV'ing for now. I give you my word it's the smartest decision you could ever make (or not make in this case).

 

[Bliindsided]

This is a decision that will most likely haunt you for the rest of your entire life.

..^

glad you decided against it.

 

[Slum Survivor]

hey dude... i was right where u are at one point. im gonna put it like this... the IV makes it much stronger, so u only need about a 1/3 of what u use normally. that feeling u are chasing will ALWAYS keep getting harder to find. the Iv makes heroin different for the first 8 minutes or so. it will have a powerful euforia or rush sometimes when u do enough. keep in mind tho, its going to wear off much faster.

also its very very easy to screw up shooting up when trying it for the first few times and such. so dont screw yourself over wasting the last of your stuff.
so if you DO choose to ignore all the warnings about trying IV, also keep that in mind.

when u start IV u wont want to go back either. and u will get scars and nasty bruises very very easy. especially if u dont have someone to help u.
and when u dont have someone to help u... dont go shooting even half a pack. just do a tiny bit, that avoids OD and waste.

IMO if the crap was free i would never IV it. i dont get much out of that first 8 minutes honestly. some would IV every 8 mins if they could. snorting the powder is quite effective as long as u can afford it.

i was never able to plug properly.

 

[down508]

Yeah that's a good point..

You know, I don't think I'm gonna try it actually. It just seems to risky doing it by myself. I've taken too much nasally before, but was able to keep myself awake and out of harm. I'm sure I couldn't do that if I had ived too much...

Is it really a complete waste to smoke powder? And how much should I try for plugging? I know no roa is safe, but I decided to go the somewhat safer route.

Thanks all, really made my decision easier putting everything in perspective. if given the opportunity to do it with someone I might, but I'm not gonna risk the solo iv

I'm really happy to hear this man. if you never try you'll save yourself a lot of misery. and your right when you've shot too much dope it becomes impossible to fight it, even if you know you're od'ing the idea of closing your eyes and resting seems more important than anything. it's like when your a little kid who's up late watching tv and you start to nod off and you think "I'll just close my eyes for a second until the commercials over" except you don't wake up unless someone narcans you

 

[tricomb]

I hope I'm not too late.... I struggled very much to post in this thread....

Please don't do it. Someone im really close to who had three years clean off IV drug abuse said to me that when they relapsed, it only reaffirmed the regret/disgust that had allowed that person to quit IVing in the first place. They felt that the experience was taking a huge step back.

Not only with the progress they'd made in their recovery, but how much their self-esteem suffered as a result of no longer being able to say "Hey, as a former severe hopelessly addicted needlephilliac, I have managed to not shoot up in three years, even in the presence of of others doing so and prepping shots for people even hitting others who lacked the skill, without even thinking about doing so myself ever again." Because in a moment of weakness, this person did what you're proposing to do for the first time.

This wasn't remotely close to this persons first time, but they knew it would be their last. Somehow, even with 3 years off IV-sobriety down the drain, it didn't feel like a total loss, because they gained something priceless. They had a sense of certainty in the back of their mind, they realized in the past 3 years of abstaining from IV use, they always had doubts at the back of their mind, subconsciously, like that one day I can do it and it won't be a problem mentality, while consciously thinking like fuck yeah! I got 3 years and counting, it just gets easier and easier with time!.

Maybe the reason because despite achieving the desired effect/instant gratification, the experience felt alien and dysphoric despite being heavily experienced with needles in times past, and the administration was textbook/professional, yet it still produce a very unpleasant experience, the rushing opiate warmth blanket feeling felt like a FEVER as they wallowed in shame and tears and blood and....... regret.

How do I know so much detail? Like I said, this person was very close to me. So close to me, it could have been me... The other day, my body did it.... but my mind wasn't in it.... It wasn't me. That's not who I am, I realized. The only reason I am not too ashamed to post this is the shred of fucking hope that this post might make a difference for you. And if not for you, for all the other people reading this considering putting a needle in their arm, even with properly micron filtered solution and picture perfect prep and administration technique, the intravenous ROA is one best left to hospitals. And nothing else. God bless you. I used to be a die hard atheist. And now? I'm even open to the idea of possibly going the religious/spiritual route. What does that say about me, that since shooting up again, I've been questioning my extreme lifelong atheism? I don't know. You be the judge. Is it worth it?

 

[Kicks86]

Using with a friend would be one of the few smart things you could do whenever IVing heroin. There isn't much else that falls under that category. I've been clean for roughly 17 months and I iv'd heroin by accident (Yea, I know, sounds like BS...I thought it was pills, relied on a friend to set up the needle for me... turns out it was heroin!) And even though I spent the night vomiting - ENTIRE NIGHT - I still went back for a second shot! So even if the experience is terrible, there's always going to be that fucking allure of it... But back on topic - To use with someone that has Narcan would be awesome, but unfortunately, I never came across many people that had a stash of it. I contracted Hep C from IV use, and unfortunately, I also refused to use heroin any other way once I discovered how wonderful it felt to IV - which, lets face it, the rush is insane. There's nothing good about any of it. The rush may be euphoric, but its a devil in sheep clothing. Even after this clean time, I'm finding myself driving through shitty neighborhoods, just hoping someone flags me down.
Please take care.