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Benzos confused, scared -- feedback please

MrNobody97

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Okay, my "story" is long and convoluted... and this is only pieces of it.

I'm sort of trying to figure out "what's what" so that I can potentially avoid making the wrong decision.

One-sentence version: "I've only had one complaint for years, and it gets worse with time, and I know I've been on a benzo a long time, but now I can't tell whether the dizziness I have comes from my disorder -- or the medicine used to treat its symptom."

One day in 2009 I became suddenly lightheaded / dizzy. Soon after, "doctor #1" put me on a daily dose of Valium, because it relieved the dizziness. Later that year, "doctor #2" (a specialist) diagnosed me with "migraine associated vertigo" ("MAV").

Over the years this dizziness has periodically "changed shape" and intensified.
I began on Valium, was changed to Xanax for about 18 months, then "doctor #3" (a psychiatrist) had me cross-taper back to Valium, in 2012.

I actually stayed quite stable (after returning to Valium) for nearly three years -- it worked well enough each day.

Just recently (last few weeks/months) my "dizziness" has suddenly intensified so strongly that it's pretty debilitating. It also bears little or no resemblance to the "original" dizziness of 2009. This is far more ... surreal.

So anyway, I have three possible ideas about this intense dizziness that's been around for years, and I can't tell which is most likely:
(A) The "migraine associated vertigo" ("MAV") is still active, still causing the dizziness, and benzo tolerance is why I'm experiencing the symptoms.
(B) The "MAV" abated at some point, and it's the BENZOS themselves that are causing / perpetuating the dizziness. [Rationale: They do act as vestibular suppressants, they can cause dizziness, and they also down-regulate or uncouple the GABA receptor after prolonged use.]
(C) Both "A" and "B" -- the "MAV" AND the benzos are both problematic.

On one hand, I've read enough (like The Ashton Manual) to know that benzo tapering and withdrawal is recommended for long-term users. But I also know it can be a horrible and long-lived ordeal to go through.

So I see two potential outcomes if I withdraw:
(1) If it IS in fact the benzos that have been keeping this nonsense alive for so long, then eventually, as the brain recovers and slowly "resets" the GABA receptor, the dizziness should gradually lessen and go away.
(2) But if it's the MIGRAINE (MAV) that's remained active all this time, then stripping away the benzos will simply leave me in the same dizzy state (if not worse), and I'll have thrown out the one thing that helped keep the "migraine dizziness" in check.

I'm kind of inclined to think it's the BENZOS that are to blame -- based on the "rationale" I gave above, in "idea (B)"; I think there's a lot of evidence to support that theory -- but I'm also desperately afraid of "what if I'm wrong?"

Frankly, from what I've read of benzo withdrawal, I think I could deal with most of the W/D symptoms. It's this dizzy-like sensation that scares the heck out of me because it's just so crippling and surreal, even now.

OK, I know this is a long, wandering, confused mess of a post, and I apologize; but I'd REALLY appreciate any and all thoughts on any and all parts of this.
 
Okay, I'm not a doctor, but I've had experience with benzos.

Benzos are generally meant to relieve anxiety and are good sedatives. The dizziness is probably associated with the fact that xanax is the strongest benzo there is (alprazolam) and your previous symptoms (before you were on benzos) returned because you downgraded to valium.

I would NEVER suggest going off any benzos because withdrawal can kill you. I mean it, Alprazolam withdrawal is deadly.

You have 2 options here.
-go to a doctor and spend about a month under supervision and go off the benzos, your migraines and dizziness will return but hey atleasthere you are off benzos
-or upgrade to a 2mg dose of alprazolam daily.
You'll feel much better and migraine and dizziness will probably subside.

Again I cannot stress how fatal benzo withdrawal is.

Be carefull.
 
Okay, I'm not a doctor, but I've had experience with benzos.

Benzos are generally meant to relieve anxiety and are good sedatives. The dizziness is probably associated with the fact that xanax is the strongest benzo there is (alprazolam) and your previous symptoms (before you were on benzos) returned because you downgraded to valium.

I would NEVER suggest going off any benzos because withdrawal can kill you. I mean it, Alprazolam withdrawal is deadly.

You have 2 options here.
-go to a doctor and spend about a month under supervision and go off the benzos, your migraines and dizziness will return but hey atleasthere you are off benzos
-or upgrade to a 2mg dose of alprazolam daily.
You'll feel much better and migraine and dizziness will probably subside.

Again I cannot stress how fatal benzo withdrawal is.

Be carefull.


--My mother, an ER nurse, has always told me that alcohol is the only thing that can kill you from withdrawal. I know meth can't, heroin will make you WISH you were dead, but you'll live. Unless you literally shit yourself to death: malnourishment. (How the hell do you spell malnourishment, that's gonna kill me now). But recently I keep hearing that benzos have potentially lethal withdrawal symptoms. IDK how I'd never known before, probably never needed to worry about any king of wd previously...

I know it's jut a google search away, but you seem pretty knowledgeable about it. How does it kill you? Like on a chemical/ molecular, like cells breaking down shit. Or just organ failure, similar to alcohol, due to complete chemical dependance? just wondering for informative purposes...
 
--My mother, an ER nurse, has always told me that alcohol is the only thing that can kill you from withdrawal. I know meth can't, heroin will make you WISH you were dead, but you'll live. Unless you literally shit yourself to death: malnourishment. (How the hell do you spell malnourishment, that's gonna kill me now). But recently I keep hearing that benzos have potentially lethal withdrawal symptoms. IDK how I'd never known before, probably never needed to worry about any king of wd previously...

I know it's jut a google search away, but you seem pretty knowledgeable about it. How does it kill you? Like on a chemical/ molecular, like cells breaking down shit. Or just organ failure, similar to alcohol, due to complete chemical dependance? just wondering for informative purposes...

Long term Benzodiazepine use followed by abrupt cessation can and in most cases will procure repeated seizures if some kind of GABAergic therapy is not resumed or introduced. Strokes happen too, I personally knew a woman in her 30s that had a stroke during a Benzo WD. That caused her a lot of health issues.
 
Damn, that's a shit way to go. So glad I've always kept benzos on my 'purely recreational' list.....
 
I've been taking 1mg of xanax for 24 days. I would skip a day or two and would cut it in half. Today was my last half. How long will my withdraw last?
 
I'd almost bet money that there's a couple threads about this already. You can use the google bar up in the left to search just Bluelight articles with any keywords/ phrases. Pretty cool. Can't tell you myself, tho, never done them religiously like that...
 
I've been taking 1mg of xanax for 24 days. I would skip a day or two and would cut it in half. Today was my last half. How long will my withdraw last?

I used Klonopin for 3 months. I'd also skip a day here and there or take less than prescribed. Though, I'd also have days when I'd take more than prescribed. When I stopped, I experienced 2 days of discomfort, nothing you could call a withdrawal though.

I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't have any withdrawals at all. You might experience a little bit of a discomfort, maybe. Don't let that allow you to respect Xanax any less, though.
 
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