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Benzos Confused about Opiate withdrawal

not a problem at all we are here to help let us know how your day went with out the 5's
 
dont count on getting fent patches easily on the legal market. immediately post surgical i was on this teeeeensy dilly drip and was begging for fent patches and they said no.

maybe i'm naive, but unless you've got malignant cancer, getting fent patches is no easy task.
 
no but by the sounds of his doctor he is willing to try anything expecially if it is gonna make the guy much happier with his pain manegement and not just have him drop off completely as then the doctor gets no money haha
 
Man I know how you feel. I had been dependent on opiates for 3 years about, the last year on methadone ( as well as other various narcotics due to cancer, and heroin occasionally).. 3 weeks ago I was in the same state as you and decided fuck this, I am tired of methadone, I'll deal with the withdrawals cold turkey. Said fuck you to the clinic basically, and figured my prescribed Soma, Klonopin, Neurontin, and Seroquel would help me sleep/feel semi OK during the withdrawals.

Well that was a fucking sham. I blew through my month's supply of everything (soma, etc) within a week, and was left Broke, and with no scripts left. The clinic wouldn't take me back.

Well long story short I ended up relapsing on dope for a short bit, and now finally got back on suboxone to try and taper over the next week or so until I get my scripts refilled. 22 days off of methadone and despite suboxone, heroin, whatever.. I still don't feel right. Had a number of mental breakdowns along the way.

Moral of my story - You may think you can just muscle through it, sleep through it, whatever.. But it is damn hard man. I highly suggest seeking out some kind of professional help, there are MYRIADS of free/sliding scale clinics/places that help addicts and whatnot. Whatever you end up doing, I wish you the best. it is a long hard road, but it seems you've already experienced it basically thru alcoholism in the past.

It is a beast inside us and it manifests itself in many forms.
 
I've never found a way to sleep through it that worked consistently. Temazepam will work for a night then the next night give me killer RLS. Ditto with phenobarb. Seroquil, zopiclone, benadryl etc. just make my legs twich and yawn all night.

I'm ten days at zero from a very large 9-year oxy/methadone habit and don't expect to sleep on my own for another month or so. I've learned to be ok with that, though as a person on straight commission I'll be broke for a while. I used two or three weeks of sub to get me down. Sub is hell, but it's hell with the occasional air conditioning.

It can be done, but you need a damn good reason to do it. Immodium is your friend, but I personally wouldn't take more than 2 or 3 times the recommended dosage to keep yourself from spending the whole day on the can.

@BP--sorry it didn't work out. Good luck with the sub!
 
I just want to reitterate my point that you should be honest with your pain management doctor if it gets to be too much to handle on your own. Pain management doctors are not the same as other doctors, they are heavily trained and know that when you ask for oxys and such it doesn't make you a drug seeker. Obviously the injury the OP sustained is quite substantial to justify an opiate cocktail similar to the one he is taking.

I am a fellow pain management patient OP and I know how taking opiates everyday is a lot different than needing to take opiates everyday due to injury. It's a condition of life to want what we don't have, those who do oxys everyday wish they can get scripts for them and the ones who get scrips for oxys wish they didn't need to take them.
 
Man I know how you feel. I had been dependent on opiates for 3 years about, the last year on methadone ( as well as other various narcotics due to cancer, and heroin occasionally).. 3 weeks ago I was in the same state as you and decided fuck this, I am tired of methadone, I'll deal with the withdrawals cold turkey. Said fuck you to the clinic basically, and figured my prescribed Soma, Klonopin, Neurontin, and Seroquel would help me sleep/feel semi OK during the withdrawals.

Well that was a fucking sham. I blew through my month's supply of everything (soma, etc) within a week, and was left Broke, and with no scripts left. The clinic wouldn't take me back.

Well long story short I ended up relapsing on dope for a short bit, and now finally got back on suboxone to try and taper over the next week or so until I get my scripts refilled. 22 days off of methadone and despite suboxone, heroin, whatever.. I still don't feel right. Had a number of mental breakdowns along the way.

Moral of my story - You may think you can just muscle through it, sleep through it, whatever.. But it is damn hard man. I highly suggest seeking out some kind of professional help, there are MYRIADS of free/sliding scale clinics/places that help addicts and whatnot. Whatever you end up doing, I wish you the best. it is a long hard road, but it seems you've already experienced it basically thru alcoholism in the past.

It is a beast inside us and it manifests itself in many forms.
BrokendownPalace, you hit the nail on the head with your experience, that's exactly what I don't want to happen to me. I have a therapist that I have seen recently(we talked twice) about the guilt and shame of feeling like a junkie, and he was able to show me the reality of my situation and why I need the meds right now, but understood completely why I felt the way I do being in AA and all. About 12 years ago this therapist worked with me for about 4 years and walked me through some PTSD issues without meds and was a great help and a good friend now. Thanks for sharing your experience, it really helps. I ordered some Kraton yesterday since I am tapering, don't know if it will help but from what I've read a lot of people swear by it. Your in my thoughts and for what it's worth my prayers, thanks again.
 
I just want to reitterate my point that you should be honest with your pain management doctor if it gets to be too much to handle on your own. Pain management doctors are not the same as other doctors, they are heavily trained and know that when you ask for oxys and such it doesn't make you a drug seeker. Obviously the injury the OP sustained is quite substantial to justify an opiate cocktail similar to the one he is taking.

I am a fellow pain management patient OP and I know how taking opiates everyday is a lot different than needing to take opiates everyday due to injury. It's a condition of life to want what we don't have, those who do oxys everyday wish they can get scripts for them and the ones who get scrips for oxys wish they didn't need to take them.
Mora, thanks for all your comments, you have some good stuff that I need from your experience, and will follow your suggestions if I can't do this on my own, thanks.
 
Day 1, not bad. I might just be like a little kid whistling in the dark, but got through the day with the reduceded dosage and just 1 .5mg zanax and slept about 6 hours. Day 2, which is today, same deal 1 80mg oxycotin, soma, and not the 5-5mg oxycodone again. But about 10 minutes ago I took a 10 mg valium which was 3 hours after the first dose. I was getting a little manic, pacing, thinking about taking the 5-5mg oxycodone, but feel better now, thinking I can make it to noon to take the reduced second dose. I know this won't be a cake walk, slight runny nose, but over all I feel better mentally, just knowing I'm doing something positive helps I think, the next few days will be interesting to see if the withdrawals from not taking 15-.5mg oxycodone a day will increase. I'll keep you posted. Thanks for being there.
 
^ Wow that's actually pretty damn good George congrats! I usually check in on here a few times a day so if things get a little too intense man feel free to send a PM my way, other than that you seem to be doing pretty well.
 
Good luck man, I really hope you succeed. Just a reminder, The Dark Side is a good place to post about anything difficult you may be going through. There are many good folks over there. If you ever want to talk about tapering or withdrawal or anything feel free to PM me.
 
Day 3, got through yesterday Ok, a little harder mentally now, just knowing those pills are here is a head trip. Sleeping pretty good, plenty of weird strange dreams of being homeless, no money, on my own, just strange, that's happened the last 2 nights, took the reduced dose again this morning, thinking of taking a 10mg valium like I did yesterday just to take the edge off of the restlessness, this is becoming more of a mental game, just thought I'd check in because some of you have asked me to update, this site helps and you guys are a help also, checked out the Darkside as suggested, after reading some post I realize my situation is not so bad, a lot of support for people over there also, this site is good stuff.
 
Got a call that a friend in recovery who owns a second home here and comes up two three times a year, killed himself in a hotel room near his primary home. After five years clean he relasped on oxy's/soma after knee surgery two years ago. When he left here 3 months ago he had a sixty day chip and was doing fine. His wife said he relasped when he got home and went to the hotel after a fight they had. This was a good friend of many, but the reality is this shit sucks!!! People don't realize that the chance they have in recovery might be the only one they have. A wake up call for me, god I don't want to end up like him!
 
Damn :( That's horrible. Sorry for your loss man, I have had similar phone calls and they are never easy to deal with. Try to take it as a lesson though, all the more testament as to how getting clean can be a good thing !
 
dont count on getting fent patches easily on the legal market. immediately post surgical i was on this teeeeensy dilly drip and was begging for fent patches and they said no.

maybe i'm naive, but unless you've got malignant cancer, getting fent patches is no easy task.

I overdosed on oxycontin, had multiple organ failure, and was lying on my shoulder motionless for so long that i had severe nerve compression damage in my right arm. it left my arm mostly paralyzed and in excruciating pain.

the pain became so great 24/7 that my doctors put me on fentanyl patches 75mcg/hr a month later. depends on the doctor and the severity of the situation 8) to this day (9 months later) im still on opiates.
 
maybe i'm naive, but unless you've got malignant cancer, getting fent patches is no easy task.

I was offered fentanyl patches by my pain management doctor when I broke my back. Some doctors prefer different medications. For example my doc prescribed me fentanyl without hesitation but was reluctant to prescribe percocet, always up to the doc and what they're comfortable with.
 
While I was battling stage 4 lymphoma last year, the doctors had no problem prescribing me fentanyl patches and large amounts of dilaudid. They knew I was already on MMT, so I had a large tolerance. But the pain from having tumors on your spine is horrible, I never want to go thru that shit again, regardless of how many opiates they throw at me. fuck.
 
if you don't want to/ or can't get subutex than i suggest trying large enough doses of the valium and xanax to help you remember the wd's less and lower you dose of oxy and soma buy 1/2 a pill a day for oxy and 1 pill a day for soma and expect the wd's to last maybe 2 weeks
 
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