Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v. 7.0

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Does anyone know if pre-workout drinks cause psychosis or anything related to that cause IM about to hit the gym and I purchased Optimum Nutrition Pre-Workout watermelon flavour any insights? I couldnt find any link between these two on the internet

I know caffeine raises dopamine, but I don’t know if it causes psychosis in itself. Maybe just try it. I think psychosis comes from a bad state of mind, too much stress and agitation. I use pre workout myself. I think it is worth the risk, but don’t use it the entire year, only when cutting. Let me know if you feel the effect well. Be sure to check the caffeine dosage and don’t take more than you’re used to handle 🙂
 
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I forgot about something I did months ago and I'm wondering if there's a point in filling it out and returning it. So a few months ago when I felt absolutely horrible from invega I contacted janssen pharmaceuticals, aka the company that developed meds like risperidone and invega, to let them know about the absolute hell I was going through and they eventually sent me a letter containing papers asking which form of invega I'm taking, what dosage of it I took, how long I've been taking it for, etc. There was also an option to leave feedback to explain my experience with it which I'm very tempted to do, which I would've done months ago but couldn't even focus or concentrate on writing properly at the time. So I'm wondering if anyone has attempted to do the same and if there's realistically a point in filling it out and sending it back to them.
I worked for a veterinary pharmaceutical manufacuring company for 5 years and for a while one of my roles was receiving and handling all complaints and adverse reaction reports. It is every pharmaceutical company's due diligance to receive, investigate and respond to ALL COMPLAINTS.
Therefore (and I have said this before in previous versions of these threads)
I urge everyone to lodge an official complaint to the manufacturer of the medication they've taken.

They are legally required to log and respond to ALL complaints and adverse reactions, especially severe adverse reactions such as the ones a lot of you have experienced or are currently experiencing. The more adverse reaction reports they receive, the more likely it will be pulled off the market. This is likely to be the best chance you guys have of making a real difference so please try to do it <3

I don’t know. If you go back on previous forums you can find them. Maybe their accounts got deleted due to inactivity or they deleted their accounts themselves.
His account got deleted
Accounts don't get deleted on Bluelight for any reason, period. Users can delete their posts, but cannot delete their accounts.
I searched for invegauser and found him, he stopped posting in January 2019.
 
Does anybody have experience with controlling psychosis off meds, or do you feel it’s a must to be medicated? My doctor recommends pills, but I feel like I can manage without. I have suffered relapse in the past, but this time I feel that I have more insight on the disease
I have had one episode of psychosis every two years since my first one I'm 2018. I don't take meds for it. I did a year of over the phone talk therapy after my second episode and I feel like it lessened the severity of my third episode. I had pills on hand for my third episode, but they were expired and as I worsened I stopped taking them so I only took them about three days. I was lucid but ended up on a 5 day ER hold for throwing a rock at my husband and breaking my window(there's no excuse for this but he and my parents locked me out of my house and had my neighbor take my daughter to dance class and wouldn't tell me who had her at the time which agitated me greatly). I talked to a doc for five minutes over zoom in the hospital. He prescribed me zyprexa pills but I said that I would only take invega pills (since I have experience with those). They ended up being too disorganized to make a new prescription, and I ended up coming out of psychosis on my own after just resting and being alone there so I ended up being released after taking nothing. I didn't eat for three days in hospital, and only got one shower, all they served were roast beef sandwiches. After that experience I feel like resting on a hold and having time to come through it is the best thing for my psychosis, if it happens again. There is a place in my new city called "Rhonda's house" that is a peer support house and that is where I plan to go if it ever comes to that again( based on history maybe next year.)
It's also really helped me to read psych books and papers to really learn what I'm struggling with. I found "Man and His Symbols" by Jung and "the vital balance" by Menninger very helpful to really learn about why I enter these subconscious processes and to feel less guilty about going mad. besides going over some of my trauma in therapy I think it's important to really understand what psychosis is, the history of its treatment, and that it's actually a normal human process (almost like the subconscious giving birth). Right now I'm reading "the subconscious language" by Thienemman and I find that helpful too.

I think our first reaction after invega is to ignore what happened and cross our fingers, but what we actually need to do is face it head on.

Doctors are taught to believe that it's not possible to live a normal life after psychosis but it very much is. Many, many people did so before these pills were introduced in the 50s and 60s. (Just a disclaimer that I don't think it's possible for EVERYONE, there is a reason they did ECT, ice water and many other abominable treatments before neuroleptics, and some people have a better quality of life on neuroleptics
but I believe that for many (maybe most at this point) people , quality of life and the ability of function is better gained through other means, and just because we have a few episodes doesn't mean we are doomed to that sort of life).
 
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How long do y’all think I should wait before attempting to come off Lithium Carbonate again? I tried to come off of it in February but it was starting to affect me negatively to say the least. I hope it doesn’t fuck up my kidneys if I tried to come off of it again
 
I have had one episode of psychosis every two years since my first one I'm 2018. I don't take meds for it. I did a year of over the phone talk therapy after my second episode and I feel like it lessened the severity of my third episode. I had pills on hand for my third episode, but they were expired and as I worsened I stopped taking them so I only took them about three days. I was lucid but ended up on a 5 day ER hold for throwing a rock at my husband and breaking my window(there's no excuse for this but he and my parents locked me out of my house and had my neighbor take my daughter to dance class and wouldn't tell me who had her at the time which agitated me greatly). I talked to a doc for five minutes over zoom in the hospital. He prescribed me zyprexa pills but I said that I would only take invega pills (since I have experience with those). They ended up being too disorganized to make a new prescription, and I ended up coming out of psychosis on my own after just resting and being alone there so I ended up being released after taking nothing. I didn't eat for three days in hospital, and only got one shower, all they served were roast beef sandwiches. After that experience I feel like resting on a hold and having time to come through it is the best thing for my psychosis, if it happens again. There is a place in my new city called "Rhonda's house" that is a peer support house and that is where I plan to go if it ever comes to that again( based on history maybe next year.)
It's also really helped me to read psych books and papers to really learn what I'm struggling with. I found "Man and His Symbols" by Jung and "the vital balance" by Menninger very helpful to really learn about why I enter these subconscious processes and to feel less guilty about going mad. besides going over some of my trauma in therapy I think it's important to really understand what psychosis is, the history of its treatment, and that it's actually a normal human process (almost like the subconscious giving birth). Right now I'm reading "the subconscious language" by Thienemman and I find that helpful too.

I think our first reaction after invega is to ignore what happened and cross our fingers, but what we actually need to do is face it head on.

Doctors are taught to believe that it's not possible to live a normal life after psychosis but it very much is. Many, many people did so before these pills were introduced in the 50s and 60s. (Just a disclaimer that I don't think it's possible for EVERYONE, there is a reason they did ECT, ice water and many other abominable treatments before neuroleptics, and some people have a better quality of life on neuroleptics
but I believe that for many (maybe most at this point) people , quality of life and the ability of function is better gained through other means, and just because we have a few episodes doesn't mean we are doomed to that sort of life).
Thank you for the detailed post. I will try to pick up some reading material on the subject in order to get a better understanding on how psychosis works. Very interesting what you wrote about facing psychosis head on.
 
Also I can take naps again, that breaks the monotony 😴. As well as headaches. I wonder if that’s a coincidence.
 
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I urge everyone to lodge an official complaint to the manufacturer of the medication they've taken.
They are legally required to log and respond to ALL complaints and adverse reactions, especially severe adverse reactions such as the ones a lot of you have experienced or are currently experiencing. The more adverse reaction reports they receive, the more likely it will be pulled off the market. This is likely to be the best chance you guys have of making a real difference so please try to do it <3
They will have very long report to read from me.
 
Does anyone know if pre-workout drinks cause psychosis or anything related to that cause IM about to hit the gym and I purchased Optimum Nutrition Pre-Workout watermelon flavour any insights? I couldnt find any link between these two on the internet

I think there was in the past a product that had DMMA in it, I think it was. And that was taken off the market. Probably very safe, but to be sure maybe go through the ingredients. Proly just a lot of caffeine in there if anything.
 
I’m taking the NAD IV treatment right now. I’ll let you guys know if it works.
Nice, I was about to start the injection version of NAD today and the so-called "slim elixir", depending on how many people I have to wait for and depending on how long the process itself takes I'll let you know later today what ingredients the slim elixir consists of if you're interested. ( Alright I just asked and it contains less ingredients then I thought, it's Taurine, B-12, B-Complex, and L Carnitine. )
 
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Nice, I was about to start the injection version of NAD today and the so-called "slim elixir", depending on how many people I have to wait for and depending on how long the process itself takes I'll let you know later today what ingredients the slim elixir consists of if you're interested. ( Alright I just asked and it contains less ingredients then I thought, it's Taurine, B-12, B-Complex, and L Carnitine. )
So if I take those vitamins I’ll lose weight??
 
Does anybody else want to share their experience with psychosis? Mine wasn’t just an episode, I was paranoid for months until I started acting on those false delusions. Was not drug induced. When I got hospitalized, I realized how silly those delusions were, but I suffered a relapse and am afraid to relapse again after the meds wear out. It’s hard to imagine now that I’ll fall back into psychosis, because I realize it’s just paranoia. But I have said that before and am worried about the future.

My pranoia was mostly about government surveillance, like Edward Snowden and people conspiring against me. It got so bad where I believed random people were out to hurt me in some way. Why did this happen to me? Is it trauma? Genetic? Stress?

How can I ensure it doesn’t happen again when I’m off meds?

Kaatrinas post has been helpful, I would appreciate if more people would like to share. I do have an appointment with my therapist to resolve these issues, but he keeps pushing meds.
 
Does anybody else want to share their experience with psychosis? Mine wasn’t just an episode, I was paranoid for months until I started acting on those false delusions. Was not drug induced. When I got hospitalized, I realized how silly those delusions were, but I suffered a relapse and am afraid to relapse again after the meds wear out. It’s hard to imagine now that I’ll fall back into psychosis, because I realize it’s just paranoia. But I have said that before and am worried about the future.

My pranoia was mostly about government surveillance, like Edward Snowden and people conspiring against me. It got so bad where I believed random people were out to hurt me in some way. Why did this happen to me? Is it trauma? Genetic? Stress?

How can I ensure it doesn’t happen again when I’m off meds?

Kaatrinas post has been helpful, I would appreciate if more people would like to share. I do have an appointment with my therapist to resolve these issues, but he keeps pushing meds.
My psychosis revolved a lot around me thinking my parents got replaced with imposters. I don’t know why that happened. I think understanding triggers is a good way to go about preventing it, I think it’s also related to how your brain is wired so maybe it’s firing too much or not enough in some areas.
 
My psychosis revolved a lot around me thinking my parents got replaced with imposters. I don’t know why that happened. I think understanding triggers is a good way to go about preventing it, I think it’s also related to how your brain is wired so maybe it’s firing too much or not enough in some areas.
Aren’t you afraid to be doomed to a life full of psychosis without meds? I fear that way more than the side effects of invega. How can I ensure the stability of my mental health without meds? You think taking meds for short periods is a solution?
 
Aren’t you afraid to be doomed to a life full of psychosis without meds? I fear that way more than the side effects of invega. How can I ensure the stability of my mental health without meds? You think taking meds for short periods is a solution?
You can’t control psychosis, are you bi polar, schizophrenic or schizoaffective? If you’re any of those things chances are you’re going to have psychosis again and are going to need to be on medication your whole life, my suggestion would be get on a antipsychotic that causes the least amount of problems like weight gain and things on a very low dose and just live with the side effects. Better then a full blown psychosis and hospitalization
 
Aren’t you afraid to be doomed to a life full of psychosis without meds? I fear that way more than the side effects of invega. How can I ensure the stability of my mental health without meds? You think taking meds for short periods is a solution?
Nope I'm not scared at all. I have a great support system right now. Before when it was going on I was alone so it was harder to deal with. I’m not entirely a fan of antipsychotics so I don’t want to say go that route, it’s your choice but you can always research alternative methods for psychosis . I’m sure there’s a lot of ways to cope, but I think having a good support system is probably helpful for you because for me feeling isolated intensified my psychosis
 
Nope I'm not scared at all. I have a great support system right now. Before when it was going on I was alone so it was harder to deal with. I’m not entirely a fan of antipsychotics so I don’t want to say go that route, it’s your choice but you can always research alternative methods for psychosis . I’m sure there’s a lot of ways to cope, but I think having a good support system is probably helpful for you because for me feeling isolated intensified my psychosis
I agree with the isolation part being a negative factor and a major cause. My problems intensified during the lockdown. I think stress is another big one.

What kind of support system do you have now that you were missing before? Family, friends, therapy, hobbies?
 
My NAD IV treatment was 5 hours long. I Haven’t noticed a difference besides the fact that my mood is better. I have 4 more treatments scheduled for the upcoming weeks. Hopefully it works. It’s supposed to correct the DNA in the brain.
 
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