Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v. 7.0

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

Blocking most dopamine and serotonin receptors leads to unbalance and unhappiness. It’s hard to adjust when you can not do anything physically or mentally. Just because it worked somewhat on you somewhat does not mean it works for everyone. Especially the people on this forum. The fact that you “recovered” from a medicine it sounds like you’re condoning is mind boggling. There is no getting used to invega in my experience.

That first statement is untrue, and honestly wildly reductive. For one example of many, blocking certain 5-HT2 receptors leads to more dopamine in the frontal lobe.

Even when I was on it, I still was productive. It's hard, but since I believed in myself and in my willpower I was able to do more than twiddle my thumbs and complain about it.

Then there's another untrue statement. It didn't work on me. And again being reductive, I never mentioned that it works for everyone taking it. You're attributing words to me that I never said.

Don't know why you put recovery in quotations unless you're trying to mock me.

As for that last statement, since you probably weren't on it for long enough, I'm not surprised that it didn't work. Are you reading what I type? Thanks.

 

[roofmaan1]

That first statement is untrue, and honestly wildly reductive. For one example of many, blocking certain 5-HT2 receptors leads to more dopamine in the frontal lobe.

Even when I was on it, I still was productive. It's hard, but since I believed in myself and in my willpower I was able to do more than twiddle my thumbs and complain about it.

Then there's another untrue statement. It didn't work on me. And again being reductive, I never mentioned that it works for everyone taking it. You're attributing words to me that I never said.

Don't know why you put recovery in quotations unless you're trying to mock me.

As for that last statement, since you probably weren't on it for long enough, I'm not surprised that it didn't work. Are you reading what I type? Thanks.

did you drive???

 

[Merek]

That first statement is untrue, and honestly wildly reductive. For one example of many, blocking certain 5-HT2 receptors leads to more dopamine in the frontal lobe.

Even when I was on it, I still was productive. It's hard, but since I believed in myself and in my willpower I was able to do more than twiddle my thumbs and complain about it.

Then there's another untrue statement. It didn't work on me. And again being reductive, I never mentioned that it works for everyone taking it. You're attributing words to me that I never said.

Don't know why you put recovery in quotations unless you're trying to mock me.

As for that last statement, since you probably weren't on it for long enough, I'm not surprised that it didn't work. Are you reading what I type? Thanks.

Blocking 5HT2 receptors leads to a huge reduction in serotonin therefore the “increase of dopamine in the frontol lobe” won’t prevent you from feeling depressed and since invega blocks D2 receptors anyway youre just left with low levels of dopamine and serotonin. There’s nothing therapeutic about that all it does is temporarily lobotomize your brain so it’s impossible to feel psychotic or feel anything for that matter it’s an insane numbing measure.

 

[RecoveryInProgress]

Blocking 5HT2 receptors leads to a huge reduction in serotonin therefore the “increase of dopamine in the frontol lobe” won’t prevent you from feeling depressed and since invega blocks D2 receptors anyway youre just left with low levels of dopamine and serotonin. There’s nothing therapeutic about that all it does is temporarily lobotomize your brain so it’s impossible to feel psychotic or feel anything for that matter it’s an insane numbing measure.

Thanks for explaining that so well. So now I understand why I got so suicidal after taking those meds.

 

[NoMoreInvegaPls]

How are you @Merek ? My month 8 was pretty bad and these days I'm feeling a little better but definitely still withdrawing. I find the biggest thing I struggle with is the inability to withstand any kind of discomfort. Showering is hard because I feel cold for a few minutes. Same with getting out of bed. Could just be a me problem, bad habit or something, don't know.

 

[iridescentblack]

Withdrawals from what

antipsychotics

 

[RecoveryInProgress]

How are you @Merek ? My month 8 was pretty bad and these days I'm feeling a little better but definitely still withdrawing. I find the biggest thing I struggle with is the inability to withstand any kind of discomfort. Showering is hard because I feel cold for a few minutes. Same with getting out of bed. Could just be a me problem, bad habit or something, don't know.

Music helps me get out of bed!!! Maybe listen to music first thing you get up! Melanie Martinez is my go to been listening to her a lot lately

 

[Merek]

How are you @Merek ? My month 8 was pretty bad and these days I'm feeling a little better but definitely still withdrawing. I find the biggest thing I struggle with is the inability to withstand any kind of discomfort. Showering is hard because I feel cold for a few minutes. Same with getting out of bed. Could just be a me problem, bad habit or something, don't know.

I feel 100% recovered any side effect of something invega took away from you name it and I’ve recovered from it, that doesn’t mean life is peaceful for me though I feel like I’m slowly going psychotic again and may be schizophrenic, I do have a plan in place not to be injected and my family is on my side.

 

[HelpMeInvega]

I feel 100% recovered any side effect of something invega took away from you name it and I’ve recovered from it, that doesn’t mean life is peaceful for me though I feel like I’m slowly going psychotic again and may be schizophrenic, I do have a plan in place not to be injected and my family is on my side.

Why do you think that? What’s been happening?

 

[Merek]

Why do you think that? What’s been happening?

Well I can play it smooth and act normal on the outside but I’ve been thinking very irrationally lately, like one thing I just thought about was that I have a guardian angel watching over me from the cosmos and that it’s a demon who has complete control over me & killed one of my friends back in November when the guy got sick and died cause he was gonna tell me some kind of secret I eventually told myself it isn’t real but I’ve questioned it over and over like what if it’s true anything’s possible. I’ve had more irrational thoughts some even more messed up then that & this started 3-4 weeks ago and has slowly been getting more intense it started with anxiety and now it’s creeping into paranoia, it’s nowhere near as bad as the psychosis I had last summer but I have a bad gut feeling it may get there.

 

[RecoveryInProgress]

Guys I just had crab with my family this has been the best weekend ever. Been feeling very happy and positive lately. There truly is light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[HelpMeInvega]

Well I can play it smooth and act normal on the outside but I’ve been thinking very irrationally lately, like one thing I just thought about was that I have a guardian angel watching over me from the cosmos and that it’s a demon who has complete control over me & killed one of my friends back in November when the guy got sick and died cause he was gonna tell me some kind of secret I eventually told myself it isn’t real but I’ve questioned it over and over like what if it’s true anything’s possible. I’ve had more irrational thoughts some even more messed up then that & this started 3-4 weeks ago and has slowly been getting more intense it started with anxiety and now it’s creeping into paranoia, it’s nowhere near as bad as the psychosis I had last summer but I have a bad gut feeling it may get there.

Awe I’m sorry, sounds a bit like magical thinking. Just keep an eye on it. I’m sure you have been. As long as you catch it early it will be ok.

 

[roofmaan1]

Well I can play it smooth and act normal on the outside but I’ve been thinking very irrationally lately, like one thing I just thought about was that I have a guardian angel watching over me from the cosmos and that it’s a demon who has complete control over me & killed one of my friends back in November when the guy got sick and died cause he was gonna tell me some kind of secret I eventually told myself it isn’t real but I’ve questioned it over and over like what if it’s true anything’s possible. I’ve had more irrational thoughts some even more messed up then that & this started 3-4 weeks ago and has slowly been getting more intense it started with anxiety and now it’s creeping into paranoia, it’s nowhere near as bad as the psychosis I had last summer but I have a bad gut feeling it may get there.

read a book or podcast

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

Blocking 5HT2 receptors leads to a huge reduction in serotonin therefore the “increase of dopamine in the frontol lobe” won’t prevent you from feeling depressed and since invega blocks D2 receptors anyway youre just left with low levels of dopamine and serotonin. There’s nothing therapeutic about that all it does is temporarily lobotomize your brain so it’s impossible to feel psychotic or feel anything for that matter it’s an insane numbing measure.

I mean you're not right. That's not how psychopharmacology works. The serotonin is still there, it just doesn't bind to the affected receptors as well. Blocking 5-HT2 is shown to lead to various positive effects.

Depression is not entirely a medication issue.

Again with the quotes???

No, since D2 is a dopamine receptor, it has nothing to do with serotonin.

Your experience isn't gospel fact.

 

[Merek]

I mean you're not right. That's not how psychopharmacology works. The serotonin is still there, it just doesn't bind to the affected receptors as well. Blocking 5-HT2 is shown to lead to various positive effects.

Depression is not entirely a medication issue.

Again with the quotes???

No, since D2 is a dopamine receptor, it has nothing to do with serotonin.

Your experience isn't gospel fact.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9452938/ This explains how anti psychotics have no benefit on negative symptoms and explains how it actually creates secondary negative symptoms you never had to begin with, your experience is not gospel fact either in fact you’re an extremely rare case, very few people can thrive on invega sustenna they just end up zombified I’m glad you didn’t have a bad reaction too it but you’re spreading false information with your recent posts here, and me and many other members in the forum had severe depression from the medications we were given that we never had before, I was depressed before APS yes but APS gave me a different type of depression that was worse that I’ve never experienced and I would much rather deal with the depression I’ve always had then anti psychotic induced depression, many other members here can vouch that APS gave them severe depression.

 

[HelpMeInvega]

I mean you're not right. That's not how psychopharmacology works. The serotonin is still there, it just doesn't bind to the affected receptors as well. Blocking 5-HT2 is shown to lead to various positive effects.

Depression is not entirely a medication issue.

Again with the quotes???

No, since D2 is a dopamine receptor, it has nothing to do with serotonin.

Your experience isn't gospel fact.

Antipsychotics cause massive depression!

 

[paranoid android]

^ Not always. I have not felt depressed at all on any antipsychotic ive been on. Anhedonia yes but not depression. If anything the zyprexa im on helps my mood. 7

As far as invega goes thiough i think it should be a last ditch option not the first fucking drug they give you. I would much rather thorazine

 

[InvegaIsdeath]

I mean you're not right. That's not how psychopharmacology works. The serotonin is still there, it just doesn't bind to the affected receptors as well. Blocking 5-HT2 is shown to lead to various positive effects.

Depression is not entirely a medication issue.

Again with the quotes???

No, since D2 is a dopamine receptor, it has nothing to do with serotonin.

Your experience isn't gospel fact.

Blocking serotonin is not a way to inflict someone with positive effects, that is gospel fact. It certainly wont raise serotonin
levels, to be block dopamine receptorsHOW COULD THEY EVEN CHECK THAT

Why just use it on schizos?(and unforntubate bipolar cases) Why not hand it out to people with colds, depression, etc ?


If you cant get it done off APs(life) Theres no way you can get it done on them. *unwarranted personal attack*

The very concept blocking dopamine and serotonin to fix any issue is just illogical

Giving someone brain damage with
pharmaceuticals is lazy and bad medicine.

 

[InvegaIsdeath]

Corona demonstrated to the world how full of shit medical science really is..

Doctors and nurses are largely overrated assholes who can only memorize data without the ability to think logically If said data makes sense.

Like social distancing for airborne pathogens for example.

WHAT A JOKE THEY ARE.

Who remembers all those nurses crying about how hard their job was only for them to post videos of themselves dancing like idiots on tic tok.

Doctors lie about cigarettes, saturated fats, and Corona virus, but surely they wouldn't lie about APs....

 

[Gdvffh]

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