Mental Health Coming off Invega (Paliperidone, Xeplion) injections v 6.0

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Did you recover from the injections while taking pills?
Eventually yes but it was kind of a weird experience. I was only given Risperidone injections while in the state hospital. As soon as I was discharged, the doc on the outside switched me to the same med in pill form.

Please bear in mind that this was 17-18 years ago so my memory may be a little foggy.

The side effects of the injections slowly began melting away within 6 months to a year. However at the same time the side effects began subsiding, I went to the mountains to be a camp counselor and quit all my meds cold turkey while there. My doc approved of the trip and my mom continued shipping my prescriptions to me but I was tossing them. Being in the mountains with all the sunshine, nature, wildlife, and beauty, I didn't really notice withdrawals other than becoming manic. After leaving camp in August, instead of coming back home I moved to another state further from home and the mania got worse. I stayed there for nearly a year and by month 6 or 7 the psychosis began coming back. By the end of my time in the other state, my weight had gone from a healthy ~150 lbs down to about 110 lbs (I'm 5'10" tall). So not only was I manic and psychotic but I was essentially a walking skeleton. I decided to take a Greyhound back home but got off the bus at a gas station stop to get coffee and the bus left without me. I hitchhiked about 250 miles back to my state but was still about 700 miles from home. Ended up in another state hospital for another month. My mom got me a plane ticket home and after that, they started me on Abilify pills. I started small and titrated up to the max dose within a few months.

So it was a quick transition from Risperidone injections to pills and then from that a slow transition to Abilify with some mania/psychosis in between. Been on Abilify since roughly 2007 and still take it.
 
Closing on in 11 months, I’m about at 92% until I’m good. I can finally workout and go to the gym again, I’m losing weight when on diet , my sexual functions are better 8/10 . I’ve just been getting death grip from jacking off so much ..: what can I say I just missed being normal . I can smile laugh, be happy , get angry, conversate, have personality , out going etc . I’m in love with music and the gym again , and video games. I have all of my interests back . I just can’t really get sad but I honestly don’t care. Other than that I’ve been taking vitamins and supplements for recovery. My advice to you all: GET THE FUCK OFF THIS WEBSITE!!! It will only make you over think and get. Depressed. All I have to say is everyone recovers differently so reading other peoples stories is a waste of time.. if you got this shot all you need is faith, and time because this is a waiting game. Peace :) I’ll definitely be back when I’m 100% .
 
Anyone else get the impression that psychiatrists misunderstand intentionally?

Recently I learned this Gnostic term called a "hylic". They're the people in the Matrix who are most likely to become an agent. My past experiences with doctors in this field is often like being talked down to, as if I don't exist. But the mirror often reflects back at you, revealing one's insecurities and flaws.

My current psychiatrist is what I would consider a good person--save for the part that--she too misunderstands me intentionally.

I often don't waste my time with such people. If they're that hyperfocused on specific tones that they're not receiving, why reveal anything to them?
 
I dont mind nightmares, nothing bad about them
I've had a stressful nightmare not long ago which was actually a sleep paralysis, I had a demon attached to me behind my back and he was playing with my nipples, no kidding.
I had similar sleep paralysis before where I woke up and still felt the areas where the demon was touching/holding me. Pretty scary.
 
I've had a stressful nightmare not long ago which was actually a sleep paralysis, I had a demon attached to me behind my back and he was playing with my nipples, no kidding.
I had similar sleep paralysis before where I woke up and still felt the areas where the demon was touching/holding me. Pretty scary.
I hate sleep paralysis
 
I hate sleep paralysis
I once decided not to fight it, to see if I'll see any demon coming, but it got too scary so I was fighting my way back into wakefulness.
I actually seen a demon face to face in my dream, he was calling my full name. He looked like a 25 - 30 year old guy with a beard and he was wearing a cap and a coronavirus mask. He grabbed me with both of his arms and we were floating outside of my room.
That was around a year ago.
 
Can I ask precisely why you feel that way?

I have some idea of why you might feel that way. Is it related to dangerous medicine (obviously, antipsychotics being unacceptably, incredibly dangerous)? Is it related to misdiagnoses and inaccurate psychiatrist records and callous treatment?

Besides my concern with the safety of paliperidone and other antipsychotics, another issue I have faced my whole adult life and hope to solve is my own experience with psychiatrists maliciously misdiagnosing me, continually (almost constantly) making utterly inaccurate notes about what I have said and am saying, other such distortions, as well as callous treatment. I have long suspected this problem to be very widespread.

Therefore, in order to solve the problem, I hope as many people as possible, including yourself, can help gather evidence that this problem of any of the following exists: misdiagnoses, inaccurate patient records and distortions, callous treatment, etc.

While you are certainly justified in avoiding psychiatrists, this will not solve the problem with psychiatry. What we really need is as many people who have experienced this problem to gather evidence and come forward. News media, the public, etc. need to be made aware of this problem and we also need to present them with concrete evidence.

Although it is a lot to ask of any of you on these threads, since almost all of you have or still suffer from paliperidone caused severe depression and sexual dysfunction, as well as other side effects from antipsychotics, (in addition to whatever mental health issues you may or may not have), it is essential that certain steps be taken, which may be painstaking but are necessary.

What we need is that anyone gathering evidence about such abuse from treating psychiatrists also make good faith efforts to confront their psychiatrists about misdiagnoses, inaccurate records and distortions and callous treatment. If they don't share their Notes with you, ask them to. Keep records of those Notes, preferably also sound/voice record your meetings with your psychiatrists (so you can have proof that they are lying about you and what you are saying); also, if the problem continues, contact local government agencies with complaints, some of which may regulate these providers' licensing. Get as much information about the clinic and your psychiatrists as possible. Therein, when such individuals as you and myself share this story with the public and the news media, we have credible evidence and we can show that we made a good faith effort to give the psychiatrists a chance for correction, etc.

I am hoping to gather as much evidence from as many individuals who have suffered this problem as possible, to bolster our case to news media, watchdog groups and organizations and even lawyers, etc. that this problem truly exists, is widespread, and that urgent action is needed to force accountability and reform in psychiatry.

I do think psychiatric medicine can help people and I do think that, at least in concept/theory, psychiatry should be a good thing and that they should be accurate, caring, law abiding and hold to the tenets of medicine and the Hippocratic Oath. As flawed as it is, I still believe psychiatry is a pillar/essential institution of society, and that we should go after the bad apples diligently, rather than outright rejecting the entire profession--even if the entire profession is in fact corrupt and callous, even if the entire profession is bad apples (unfortunately, this argument can legitimately be made). Yes, even if the profession seems to attract people of poor moral character who abuse power, don't practice good medicine and science, accept indoctrination without question, etc. and even if the profession fundamentally produces such characters and bad results through its educational and professional development and structures, etc. and even if some of the fundamental approach of abnormal psychiatry is severely flawed, I still believe that, on some basic level, psychiatry is supposed to be good and helpful.

I might also warn you that, depending on what your qualms are, but if they are the same as I have, that private therapists and psychologists can be guilty of all the same problems: they can misdiagnose you, sometimes recklessly, deliberately, maliciously and in a highly damaging matter, they can make inaccurate records and distortions, be callous, etc. This has certainly happened to me.
Paliperidone primarely causes severe numbness/anhedonia (to all kind of experiences) which can not be explained and imagined by someone who didnt experience it. It also makes you seem like time doesnt pass, what happened before 1 day seems like happened before years ago, at beginning of recovery but every 2 months it gets fixed a bit, after almost 20 months (for me) one month to me seems longer than it was pre-paliperidone by multiplier of x2-3 but it is nothing to multiplier of x100-1000+ at beginning, this proves that paliperidone messes up with brain to the very serious degree and blocks dopamine D2(blocks other types less but still strongly) completely for most of people (or almost completely). It also made my hands shake constantly but that was not a problem for me. It also caused me severe arythmia and that caused me heart pains. It messed up my digestion (mostly big colon muscles werent able to be controled by brain since that needs dopamine for regulation of small muscles) for whole year, I was not digesting food properly.

My old mother even took antipsyhotic pill on her own out of curiosity and she had chest pains because of only one pill for a whole month, she never experienced that in her life.
We need "well educated" people who are considered "normal" to test those injections/pills, after they test paliperidone on ~10 psyhiatrists(or on people who develop paliperidone), they will likely forbid usage of those for all times.

Most of people dont know what anhedonia is so they say they are depressed. Depression out of paliperidone was never a problem for me but numbness/anhedonia was and severe pains(in heart, stomach, chest, etc - which I no longer have, they slowly faded away every month and were 24/7 there). Paliperidone makes you so numb that you can not feel sad/depressed anymore and long time into recovery one of first emotions you will feel is depression and you will actualy appreciate it as I did. Paliperidone makes you even dont experience anger(or you experience very dampened version of it) and every emotion you try to express is actualy a desperate/cheap replica and I describe that as system crash, congrats you are damaged to the point that you can not express yourself anymore. It also destroys your ability to focus and analyise stuff you are experiencing, also makes it very hard to have arguments.

Not to mention that it completely destroys satisfaction from work, accomplishments, sex to the point that it feels like you are not doing it. You are punished severely for every second of existance because of how slowly you experience time passing (and if you have pains which usualy come with it, that makes it even worse) and how numbed you are to the degree that it fucking hurts so so extremely bad that you want to scream/yell that everybody on this planet hears you but you know that would change nothing and only bring you more problems. You realise that displaying how badly you are makes no point so nobody will ever be even close to actualy understand your situation unless he/she experienced it himself/herself. You reliase time and good diet(and lifestyle + supplements) is your best friend as you notice you are recovering every month piece by piece being it 1%-3% every month, you will get there, every month should be less painful mathematicaly looking because for example if you were 1% last month and next month you are 2% it will be x2 easier to go throught that next month. Here I am almost 20 months off and I like how far I went, recently I started being able to actualy feel when I acomplish something, before 5 months I was forcing myself to do stuff and I did nice stuff but it was for me like I never did it and process of doing was numbed too much.
 
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I've had a stressful nightmare not long ago which was actually a sleep paralysis, I had a demon attached to me behind my back and he was playing with my nipples, no kidding.
I had similar sleep paralysis before where I woke up and still felt the areas where the demon was touching/holding me. Pretty scary.
You just forgot how its like to feel touch, nothing special just a common side-effect (because of antagonism of memory systems - serotonine and related), you have to re-learn/remember lot of stuff and everything will be fine, lot of your memory is most likely in fog. Don't be surprised if some taste makes you be surprised, you simply forgot how it feels or what reaction it causes to you.
 
I hate sleep paralysis

Here we call sleep paraylisis the old hag because people here tend to have visions of a witch coming towards them. i get this if i dont take clonaz or zopiclone before i sleep. But i learned a trick to make it stop without drugs anyway as when you treat it like a trip and stop panicking the dream goes away. But i keep getting them for some weird reason anyway i dont know
 
Paliperidone primarely causes severe numbness/anhedonia (to all kind of experiences) which can not be explained and imagined by someone who didnt experience it. It also makes you seem like time doesnt pass, what happened before 1 day seems like happened before years ago, at beginning of recovery but every 2 months it gets fixed a bit, after almost 20 months (for me) one month to me seems longer than it was pre-paliperidone by multiplier of x2-3 but it is nothing to multiplier of x100-1000+ at beginning, this proves that paliperidone messes up with brain to the very serious degree and blocks dopamine D2(blocks other types less but still strongly) completely for most of people (or almost completely). It also made my hands shake constantly but that was not a problem for me. It also caused me severe arythmia and that caused me heart pains. It messed up my digestion (mostly big colon muscles werent able to be controled by brain since that needs dopamine for regulation of small muscles) for whole year, I was not digesting food properly.

My old mother even took antipsyhotic pill on her own out of curiosity and she had chest pains because of only one pill for a whole month, she never experienced that in her life.
We need "well educated" people who are considered "normal" to test those injections/pills, after they test paliperidone on ~10 psyhiatrists(or on people who develop paliperidone), they will likely forbid usage of those for all times.

Most of people dont know what anhedonia is so they say they are depressed. Depression out of paliperidone was never a problem for me but numbness/anhedonia was and severe pains(in heart, stomach, chest, etc - which I no longer have, they slowly faded away every month and were 24/7 there). Paliperidone makes you so numb that you can not feel sad/depressed anymore and long time into recovery one of first emotions you will feel is depression and you will actualy appreciate it as I did. Paliperidone makes you even dont experience anger(or you experience very dampened version of it) and every emotion you try to show is actualy a desperate/cheap replica and I describe that as system crash, congrats you are damaged to the point that you can not express yourself anymore. It also destroys your ability to focus and analyise stuff you are experiencing, also makes it very hard to have arguments.

Not to mention that it completely destroys satisfaction from work, accomplishments, sex to the point that it feels like you are not doing it. You are punished severely for every second of existance because of how slowly you experience time passing (and if you have pains which usualy come with it, that makes it even worse) and how numbed you are to the degree that it fucking hurts so so extremely bad that you want to scream that everybody on this planet hears you but you know that would change nothing and only bring you more problems. You realise that displaying how badly you are makes no point so nobody will ever be even close to actualy understand your situation unless he/she experienced it himself/herself. You reliase time and good diet(and lifestyle + supplements) is your best friend as you notice you are recovering every month piece by piece being it 1%-3% every month, you will get there, every month should be less painful mathematicaly looking because for example if you were 1% last month and next month you are 2% it will be x2 easier to go throught that next month. Here I am almost 20 months off and I like how far I went, recently I started being able to actualy feel when I acomplish something, before 5 months I was forcing myself to do stuff and I did nice stuff but it was for me like I never did it and process of doing was numbed too much.
I can relate to most of the things you said, especially with no one understands you so it's really useless to "cry" about it.
What if you reach a point in your recovery that you can't get any better? what if Xeplion causes irreversible damage?
 
You just forgot how its like to feel touch, nothing special just a common side-effect (because of antagonism of memory systems - serotonine and related), you have to re-learn/remember lot of stuff and everything will be fine, lot of your memory is most likely in fog. Don't be surprised if some taste makes you be surprised, you simply forgot how it feels or what reaction it causes to you.
That sleep paralysis dream was before I was injected. I was completely healthy.
It's just an effect of the experience.
 
I've had a stressful nightmare not long ago which was actually a sleep paralysis, I had a demon attached to me behind my back and he was playing with my nipples, no kidding.
I had similar sleep paralysis before where I woke up and still felt the areas where the demon was touching/holding me. Pretty scary.
Whenever I sense entities when I get sleep paralysis I just use a patronus charm--like from Harry Potter. Works like a charm. No pun intended.
 
Here we call sleep paraylisis the old hag because people here tend to have visions of a witch coming towards them. i get this if i dont take clonaz or zopiclone before i sleep. But i learned a trick to make it stop without drugs anyway as when you treat it like a trip and stop panicking the dream goes away. But i keep getting them for some weird reason anyway i dont know
Yeah, I've heard that one. I usually call them vampires, myself. Haven't gotten sleep paralysis in a while.
 
I wish my deep connection to music would come back, it’s not totally gone but nothing like before. Bummer
 
I wish my deep connection to music would come back, it’s not totally gone but nothing like before. Bummer
True.
Now music just sounds flat, where before, music used to play with my emotions and I even used to feel the message from certain songs and connect to it deeply.
Very sad indeed.
 
Yeah, I've heard that one. I usually call them vampires, myself. Haven't gotten sleep paralysis in a while.

Ya maybe its a cultural thing or something.. Everyone here refers to them as witches. i havent gotten it in recently but thats probably because of the meds im on. it doesent actually scare me anymore but it keeps waking me up and is annoying as fuck really
 
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