Mental Health Coming off Invega (paliperidone) injections, v 5.0

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Does the brain return to normal during a very slow taper off ap from neurotransmiters supersensivity?
I have some experience with this, but not sure how to relay.

Transmitters that wire and fire together and so on... I've mapped my own brain at the result of a rare siddhi from kundalini. I have the ability to see energetically, in other words. In my experience, several years off Invega Sustenna, the sensitivity has certainly gone down, to the point that it's much more manageable to fire and wire certain groups of neurons, synapses and such ... as well as clusters of gray matter without hugely negative consequences. Hope this helps...
 
I have some experience with this, but not sure how to relay.

Transmitters that wire and fire together and so on... I've mapped my own brain at the result of a rare siddhi from kundalini. I have the ability to see energetically, in other words. In my experience, several years off Invega Sustenna, the sensitivity has certainly gone down, to the point that it's much more manageable to fire and wire certain groups of neurons, synapses and such ... as well as clusters of gray matter without hugely negative consequences. Hope this helps...
What do you mean by mapped your own brain.
 
Im doing longer and longer meditations on root chakra and seems like its resolving my invega issue more and more I feel better. Today I did around 8h meditation on it.
 
My voices I used to have has just left me today. I’m going to stop invega and get better. I’m so tired of what invega has done to me. I hope my dad supports me quitting invega for life really. I don’t even know who I am anymore that’s how long I’m had voices in me. I’m glad they are over. Now I have to quit invega to actually get better. I’m tired a lot lately and have to take adderall to focus. If I quit invega I don’t want to lose my adderall but I’m scared the doctor or my dad will listen. Good luck to you going threw invega.
 
I haven’t been posting here because my voices took over my life and I couldn’t focus. I have been threw invega before and recovered but got voices afterwards it’s crazy what I’m been threw taking invega. Good luck to you all going threw this. This is my second time with invega. It will get better for me I do believe invega destroyed my life.
 
Didn't you recover?
I recovered after 13 months but had voices come back so I got back on invega. It sucks that I relapse but I’m more careful now. I just don’t want invega. I’m better than the first time but scared of relapsing. Anyway you will get better I promise you will. Good luck to everyone on invega it’s horrible. I’m so weak everyday. I’ve gained weight again this sucks. Now I’m waiting again. Good luck
 
Idk man. I feel like my thoughts still aren't the same as before, but of improved.
I'd say 80%.
I actually feel sad when browsing this thread. :(
Reminds me of the terrible impact Invega has made.
I agree with you on how invega impacted your life. It did the same to me. I’m so scared of relapsing again but I need to think positive. I got a lot of invega this time around because I relapsed. Hopefully this time I wont
 
My voices I used to have has just left me today. I’m going to stop invega and get better. I’m so tired of what invega has done to me. I hope my dad supports me quitting invega for life really. I don’t even know who I am anymore that’s how long I’m had voices in me. I’m glad they are over. Now I have to quit invega to actually get better. I’m tired a lot lately and have to take adderall to focus. If I quit invega I don’t want to lose my adderall but I’m scared the doctor or my dad will listen. Good luck to you going threw invega.
Read what I said about voices and when they return U will be able to fix it.
 
My kundalini is almost full force like thunder in body where I direct it, I can also shut it down fast. So we will see how it impacts the recovery for good. Its not even close as pleasent as before invega but that "thunder" thing is nice.
 
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My kundalini is almost full force like thunder in body where I direct it, I can also shut it down fast. So we will see how it impacts the recovery for good. Its not even close as pleasent as before invega but that "thunder" thing is nice.
I’m so tired of invega. It really sucks that I’m on it. I can’t even get out of bed. I want to get better but it’s hard. So hard that I’m having a hard time improving. I’m not even a month off yet.
 
I haven’t been posting here because my voices took over my life and I couldn’t focus. I have been threw invega before and recovered but got voices afterwards it’s crazy what I’m been threw taking invega. Good luck to you all going threw this. This is my second time with invega. It will get better for me I do believe invega destroyed my life.
I started hearing a voice because of the medication Vraylar. "you're burning alive" it kept saying.

To the room, I've been needing to bring up a certain point: the last stage that drugs go through is your bones. The elimination process, I used to think, would normally just exit through the normal channels i.e. urine and excrete but it seems - according to research I've done - that bones are the last thing for it to go through.

I guess the moral here is; strengthen your bones and the drug is no matter.
 
Yes; at some point I had to perform chakra removal on my sacral chakra in order to heal colitis.

The problem I think, with other people, comes from an inability to observe themselves in any given situation. My hypothesis is that narcissists, especially, have learned behaviors that make them look for certain cues (but from other people) to see what they're like in social circumstances. Like you said, robotic.

The humble observer, however, emphatically realizes by observing the self in said social standings. It's a lot like putting your "seat" in the very back of your mind and watching yourself go through just about anything, including meditation.

Invega, I felt was a lot like that to a degree. I was stuck, for nearly a decade, observing myself going through the process of undergoing an unpleasant experience. Regaining control was the cool part.
This is what it’s like. I feel like I’m observing myself going through hell but sometimes very upset because I have thoughts of wanting to do productive things but then my brain body just aren’t there yet. So I feel stuck and I try to talk myself through it that eventually I’ll feel normal again.
 
Hello. I have also not posted in months. I believe my Invega experience was over a year ago. It’s far behind me now to the point where I literally don’t even think about it. My life was just as many describe. Poor life quality, suicidal ideation, mustly Invega smell, lost my attraction and sex drive completely. I stayed as positive as I could for the first months. Then began to slowly give up. Even after 5.3 months in; I would sit down and say to myself “this just doesn’t feel right”. No matter what I did, I couldn’t make myself feel any type of emotion. The drug also made me mentally retarded. I’m 100% fine now. I am bipolar and was misdiagnosed scizoaffective. I took like 4-5 high dose shots voluntarily. I kept taking them because for the first 2-3 shots the medicine didn’t have much an affect on me. Then it hit me like a wall one morning before work I had no will to live. Fast forward 7.5 months after that and I am literally perfectly back to normal. Now about another 7.5 months and I make over 3.5k a month and drive a 2019. The medicine I am on now medicine that allows me to work 12+ hours a day (My positive bipolar symptoms causes me to work continuously without end some days). I am extremely hopeful about modern medicine once again as well as we go towards understanding it more. Take your medicine people; is my advice. Just find the right one and never fall for the shots. I feel you have more integrity taking a pill to manage symptoms, rather than being shot up with some chemical concoction every month like you’re a serial killer. Abilify works for me, mirtazapine, lithium, clonidine, seroquel. They’ve all worked for my symptoms. Be careful with “long term” treatment options. Try not to relapse and be safe!
 
Hello. I have also not posted in months. I believe my Invega experience was over a year ago. It’s far behind me now to the point where I literally don’t even think about it. My life was just as many describe. Poor life quality, suicidal ideation, mustly Invega smell, lost my attraction and sex drive completely. I stayed as positive as I could for the first months. Then began to slowly give up. Even after 5.3 months in; I would sit down and say to myself “this just doesn’t feel right”. No matter what I did, I couldn’t make myself feel any type of emotion. The drug also made me mentally retarded. I’m 100% fine now. I am bipolar and was misdiagnosed scizoaffective. I took like 4-5 high dose shots voluntarily. I kept taking them because for the first 2-3 shots the medicine didn’t have much an affect on me. Then it hit me like a wall one morning before work I had no will to live. Fast forward 7.5 months after that and I am literally perfectly back to normal. Now about another 7.5 months and I make over 3.5k a month and drive a 2019. The medicine I am on now medicine that allows me to work 12+ hours a day (My positive bipolar symptoms causes me to work continuously without end some days). I am extremely hopeful about modern medicine once again as well as we go towards understanding it more. Take your medicine people; is my advice. Just find the right one and never fall for the shots. I feel you have more integrity taking a pill to manage symptoms, rather than being shot up with some chemical concoction every month like you’re a serial killer. Abilify works for me, mirtazapine, lithium, clonidine, seroquel. They’ve all worked for my symptoms. Be careful with “long term” treatment options. Try not to relapse and be safe!
Thanks so much for sharing your experience with us man! So glad to hear you're doing well now <3
 
Also. For those asking me about psychedelic use while bipolar/history of psych feats. I’m beginning to infer that psychedelics caused just as much potential brain damage/issues that Invega did. Honestly I’ve been off of psychedelics for a long time now and plan to not use them again. I personally would not recommend psychedelic use long-term. Although there are those who trip while on medicine like Abilify; but how safe is that on your brain after awhile. And you don’t want to know what a combination of lithium and any psychedelic will do to you. Easy permanent brain damage. Otherwise your final option is to trip without medication and risk going into drug induced psychosis. After being off of psychedelics for so long I noticed the magic in life returning. My vision was so saturated and now I can see color normally again. As far as any other drugs the worst I’ve done is Kratom for like a week.
 
This is what it’s like. I feel like I’m observing myself going through hell but sometimes very upset because I have thoughts of wanting to do productive things but then my brain body just aren’t there yet. So I feel stuck and I try to talk myself through it that eventually I’ll feel normal again.
I can hardly begin to explain how impatient I was in waiting for my recovery. Mostly my days were bleak and filled with disappointment, spending countless hours wishing that the torture would cease. Needless to say, I didn't get a whole lot done at first. Mostly I looked to the future because I felt it held the answers. Knowing that I would eventually feel better was the only thing that kept me going. I wish I could say friends and family were my supports instead of my intuition and hope, but I found them to be rather unsympathetic in what I was going through. My brother used to torture me while I was going through it. He opportunistically took advantage of the fact that my usual senses were gone. Otherwise I would have kicked his ass multiple times over.

I remember calling him one day because I was so proud of my achievements. I had been training so rigorously, I had run a five minute mile, done a one handed cartwheel, but this particular conversation was over having done what's called a ki-up. My brother was jealous, or what - I don't know - because he suddenly became furious and insisted that I hadn't been taking my medication. All over a fucking physical skill.
 
According to the product description, Abilify looks like a miracle drug but we need your feedback in order to fully appreciate it's value.

Which one is better: 10 MG olanzopine or 10 MG abilify ?

Our psychiatrist has actually prescribed 400 MG Abilify but we are going probably going to face a court order in order to fight this.

On a side note, we are not pleased that these antipsychotic medications causes or worsens diabetes.

We will consider discontinuing all medications after a proper detox.

Thank you guys for your input.

I have heard a lot of people hope that abilify will solve their problems because it blocks dopamine to a lesser amount than most other APs. Some people really like it but I've heard many say that akathisia is unbearable on it
Hi Kaatrina, thanks for your post. I'm happy to read that you've fully recovered - that's brilliant and it gives me a lot of hope that my emotional intensity and creativity will come back in full. Although I already feel that I'm quite far along in my recovery, I still don't think that I'm as creative as I was before invega.
When you had psychosis in March 2020, how did you treat it and how long did it last? Did you take any antipsychotics for that episode? And did the people around you notice?
Also, how did you find a therapist for psychosis? Were they a part of your regular mental health team?
I did see a psychotherapist, but I was very guarded throughout, so it was of limited use. I was a lot more open (with psychotherapists) before invega, but I'm much more reserved with all mental health professionals now. Unless a therapist was independent from my mental health team, I think I'd struggle to talk about any psychotic symptoms (because I fear being hospitalised again that much).
They gave me one Haldol injection involuntarily in order to get me out of isolation (at this time my worst fears and symptoms came from fear of the shot). As soon as I was articulate, I let them know I wanted no shot. I had no team at this time. They put me on invega pill form. I didnt want to take the pills but they would threaten me with a shot if I didnt. symptoms were gone within 8 days and I was released.. Within a few days of taking the pills, I felt some old familiar invega feelings. I stopped taking invega as soon as I left the hospital and those feelings went away within two weeks.
After this I decided to seek out care. I contacted a local mental health facility and spoke to a psych. I let her know EXACTLY how I felt about what they did to me with invega, that being on APs did not work for me and that I needed to find a way to manage without them. I told her that I had an idea of what thoughts started surfacing that may lead to a need for intervention. She prescribed me invega pills so I could take them if I felt I needed them..I have taken one pill since march 2020, when my husband questioned my sanity in an argument (I think he felt so bad that it led me to that that he hasnt done it since).
I'm not sure of the structure of the place I go to or if my therapist talks to my psych or not. I haven't talked to my psych after our initial meeting, just my therapist. My main goal with my therapist was to find out if I was schizophrenic or not. After a year it felt like a relief to ask her if I was and for her to confirm that I just had psychosis of unknown origin. It helped to be able to talk to her about experiences I had had that I couldn't talk to anyone else about. Psychs are only around to prescribe drugs , but the therapist helped me find out what was making me tick and how to fix it.
It is also important to note that I had my copper IUD removed in July of 2020. Although people reporting psychosis is rare, many many people report mental health issues after being on the copper IUD and I've seen other reports in internet trawls that point to copper imbalance as a gateway to psychosis (Wilson's disease ect).
Well, it’s been 10 months off the injection now. I have noticed small improvements like thoughts coming back but still really struggling with muscles, energy, brain fog, depression, hopelessness and weird anxiety and paranoia sometimes that I never had before this experience. Has this happened to anyone else? I’m currently prescribed dexedrine and it at least lets me concentrate on tv and games. Without it I’m mostly staring at the wall can’t focus on anything because of the anhedonia feelings.
I would say that the 9-10 month mark is the most difficult stage. At this point your brain is starting to connect a little bit, but mostly all you can feel is what you're still missing. Keep strong, by the time you hit 13 or 14 months you will be back to life :)
Can you experience psychosis but not have schizophrenia? If so, are people with psychosis who aren't schizophrenic and people who are schizophrenic treated the same way?
My first psych would constantly tell me that I was schizophrenic, but if you looked at her actual diagnosis, it was unspecified psychosis. I dont think they think about the mental harm caused by throwing those labels around so easily.
Does the brain return to normal during a very slow taper off ap from neurotransmiters supersensivity?
In my experience, when I told my first psych I wanted off Invega, she told me i would have to do years long taper. Even then I could sense that this meant she would gaslight me and never take me off. I believe that psychs do the same thing with ADs.
 
What do you mean by mapped your own brain.
There are archetypes that exist in the unconscious mind, each of which is like a program. Using my higher self, I have - at several points throughout my life - managed to seize hold of all of these programs and unify them. Medications has honestly made this a bit complicated, and it takes a lot of spiritual work to keep the archetypes unified via the higher self.
 
I just started Geodon yesterday and so far it’s a bit weird! I get drowsy three hours after taking it and feel pretty out of it and I have to eat food with taking the pill and then eat more to fight the nausea which I don’t like. Im overlapping my APs so Invega isn’t due until around DEC 31st but I’m discontinuing the Invega shot I’m just not sure if geodon will work so I might be back on the shot I’m not sure yet. So far Geodon feels strange! As I’m still dealing with the Invega Sustenna side effects and stuff. I won’t know if there’s any benefit of quitting or not for a little while. But I have hope! We’ll see how this goes.
 
Also my body is still physically weak with huge loss of strength still after 10 months…can just tolerate light walking for an hour…is this normal and will full strength come back to me? It’s alarming and makes me feel like a wounded animal on a game trail lol.
 
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