Mental Health Coming off Invega (paliperidone) injections, v 5.0

[Gdvffh]

If you can convince them that you will remain compliant with taking the pill form of ulotaront, is there a chance they will take you off the injections?? Or has your compliance with taking daily meds been an issue in the past?

yeah ive had problems with taking pills i always said no, im hoping that if me and my parents tell the doctor we want me on the pill ulotaront that we would be able to convince her, either that or get off the CTO and go see a regular psychiatrist and get it prescribed.

 

[iridescentblack]

Recently ive found that korean panax ginseng is really helping with depression a lil bit...im not so well but depression is bearable..u can give it a try ive read that its a d2 receptor agonist which may increase the dopamine flow i dunno...

I know it is sometimes used for bipolar as well. Worked wonders for me.

 

[Runawayfar]

@apsucks I realised why chakras got blocked by invega. Its cuz we got stuck in lower mind - the brain, we are over identified with our misery (thinking you are so miserable, you are this you are that, when this what is happening to me will end - it is not happening to you actualy its happening to brain which is not you). Chi/prana/lifeforce is moved/created/enhanced only by higher mind - awareness, when we are not stuck in lower mind its possible to enhance it and move it, the more we are not identified by toughts more control u have. Have u noticed when u have zero tought processes and you throw a ball into basket u will always not miss, many people noticed that including me. Less toughts you have more better u will feel since your awareness is enhanced and awareness feels brain impulses more, also your chi flows better and makes brain more efficient. I remember when I was kid I was often not thinking and it made me blissful, when I started thinking more I stopped being blissful. When u move finger you think it is brain who sends signal to muscles in finger to move it but I will ask you what triggers those neurons, it is awareness, thats higher mind, it can feel some range of vibrations and create some range of it thats how we use our brain. Awareness is not physical it has no label. I noticed less toughts I have I start feeling better and I forget on misery.

Thankyou for that helpful info.

 

[n3ophy7e]

yeah ive had problems with taking pills i always said no, im hoping that if me and my parents tell the doctor we want me on the pill ulotaront that we would be able to convince her, either that or get off the CTO and go see a regular psychiatrist and get it prescribed.

Good luck with it

 

[Risingson8]

I know it is sometimes used for bipolar as well. Worked wonders for me.

Are you still using it on daily basis? Do you find it effective on depression too?

 

[iridescentblack]

Are you still using it on daily basis? Do you find it effective on depression too?

I don't get depressed anymore. I feel like I solved my underlying problems. But I used it for years, even the tinctures they sell at Oriental marts. Nowadays I try to avoid hallucinogens.

 

[t_xeplionhell]

This guy has a ton of good content. He's also on tiktok, under the same name with no spaces

Check out Grandmaster Wolf on yt.

 

[Saiyana]

Can you experience psychosis but not have schizophrenia? If so, are people with psychosis who aren't schizophrenic and people who are schizophrenic treated the same way?

 

[t_xeplionhell]

Can you experience psychosis but not have schizophrenia? If so, are people with psychosis who aren't schizophrenic and people who are schizophrenic treated the same way?

People in psyhosis are threated same way and it can be separate thing. But scientists in germany found out that there is no such thing as schizophrenia but only psyhosis.

 

[n3ophy7e]

Can you experience psychosis but not have schizophrenia? If so, are people with psychosis who aren't schizophrenic and people who are schizophrenic treated the same way?

You can definitely experience psychosis without having schizophrenia.
There are many different psychiatric disorders that can produce psychosis.
There is also drug-induced or circumstantially-induced psychosis.
In Western medicine the treatment tends to be the same, regardless.

 

[iridescentblack]

Pepople in psyhosis are threated same way and it can be separate thing. But scientists in germany found out that there is no such thing as schizophrenia but only psyhosis.

I've been thinking about the onset of schizophrenia for a while now. I'm starting to wonder if the schizophrenia we see nowadays is markedly different from schizophrenia from 1,000's of years ago. Supposedly a group of scientists put forth the idea that schizophrenia is at least a 40,000 year old atavism or gene. The reason for 40,000+ years has something to do with the continent of Australia having not been touched for that many years before the aboriginals had any contact with foreigners.

But it seems to me that a lot of big pharma drugs can induce psychosis. A third party study I found some years back stated that there were links between ADHD meds and acute psychosis. Modern doctors also mention that early onset schizophrenia is preceded by the introduction of bipolar and depression meds. I have yet to find a direct link (source) that proves there is a link between bipolar meds and depression meds and psychosis.

What factors, I wonder, would have normally caused such a psychosis in indigenous people?

The kinds of non-drug induced psychoses I hear about are usually ones that entail a stress response, i.e. school work being too much for a person to keep up with.

Psychosis, is clearly handled mostly by big pharma in most areas of the world. Medications are used in lieu of the proper amount of coaxing and care that usually a family could/would provide. Indigenous experiencing psychoses would otherwise be put under strict care by their families and such. Medications seek to replace that treatment, it seems.

Gopi Krishna explained something in his autobiography that suggested that psychosis and kundalini are essentially the same thing happening in two different ways. Pulling together some research still on this, but it would seem that psychosis is akin to a certain psychic burst that occurs from one particular or more than one chakra, effectively giving that/those chakras an excess of energy. This is not at all to suggest that psychosis makes a person psychic. If anything, the underlying health concerns would need to be addressed before the psychic skill could ever be put to use.

 

[iridescentblack]

Schizophrenia Doesn't Exist!?

Schizophrenia's dual existence as categorical and spectrum diagnosis.

www.psychologytoday.com

The above website has a rather curious statement. Put forth the idea by Dr. Jim Van Os, schizophrenia is more of a spectrum disease. It would be nice if doctors would take that into deeper consideration worldwide.

 

[t_xeplionhell]

@iridescentblack have u noticed that invega makes chakras irritable like it puts ton of sharp shit.

 

[t_xeplionhell]

I've been thinking about the onset of schizophrenia for a while now. I'm starting to wonder if the schizophrenia we see nowadays is markedly different from schizophrenia from 1,000's of years ago. Supposedly a group of scientists put forth the idea that schizophrenia is at least a 40,000 year old atavism or gene. The reason for 40,000+ years has something to do with the continent of Australia having not been touched for that many years before the aboriginals had any contact with foreigners.

But it seems to me that a lot of big pharma drugs can induce psychosis. A third party study I found some years back stated that there were links between ADHD meds and acute psychosis. Modern doctors also mention that early onset schizophrenia is preceded by the introduction of bipolar and depression meds. I have yet to find a direct link (source) that proves there is a link between bipolar meds and depression meds and psychosis.

What factors, I wonder, would have normally caused such a psychosis in indigenous people?

The kinds of non-drug induced psychoses I hear about are usually ones that entail a stress response, i.e. school work being too much for a person to keep up with.

Psychosis, is clearly handled mostly by big pharma in most areas of the world. Medications are used in lieu of the proper amount of coaxing and care that usually a family could/would provide. Indigenous experiencing psychoses would otherwise be put under strict care by their families and such. Medications seek to replace that treatment, it seems.

Gopi Krishna explained something in his autobiography that suggested that psychosis and kundalini are essentially the same thing happening in two different ways. Pulling together some research still on this, but it would seem that psychosis is akin to a certain psychic burst that occurs from one particular or more than one chakra, effectively giving that/those chakras an excess of energy. This is not at all to suggest that psychosis makes a person psychic. If anything, the underlying health concerns would need to be addressed before the psychic skill could ever be put to use.

Antipsyhotics can cause psyhosis cuz they make brain grow more dopamine receptors and thus putting you in more peaceful state when u recover which is good for awareness/higher mind but then ego/lower mind starts making problems. When awareness is getting enhanced then u have better perception, if u are over identified in that process with your toughts, ego, misery, etc then ego will make problems(it cant handle it) out of that higher perception and your awareness will again start lowering, that is what I call proces of de-ancension - dampening awareness. Higher perception can only be handled by awareness not ego. Ego is likes and dislikes, robotic like, in duality(0,1).

 

[t_xeplionhell]

Antipsyhotics can cause psyhosis cuz they make brain grow more dopamine receptors and thus putting you in more peaceful state when u recover which is good for awareness/higher mind but then ego/lower mind starts making problems. When awareness is getting enhanced then u have better perception, if u are over identified in that process with your toughts, ego, misery, etc then ego will make problems(it cant handle it) out of that higher perception and your awareness will again start lowering, that is what I call proces of de-ancension - dampening awareness. Higher perception can only be handled by awareness not ego. Ego is likes and dislikes, robotic like, in duality(0,1).

All this is good actualy in some cases, people will realise what is happening and continue enhancing awareness with less and less tought process and less and less identifications(which is also tought process), thus kundalini wont produce problems and will just continue developing that feeling of ultimative peace, joy, etc which is good substrate for progressing further. This why they say kundalini will slowly kill your ego if you allow it. Some people are become litteraly their toughts, but their awareness is actualy deciding to get rid of ego but they are so blind that they dont see it and they go crazy/manic.

 

[t_xeplionhell]

All this is good actualy in some cases, people will realise what is happening and continue enhancing awareness with less and less tought process and less and less identifications(which is also tought process), thus kundalini wont produce problems and will just continue developing that feeling of ultimative peace, joy, etc which is good substrate for progressing further. This why they say kundalini will slowly kill your ego if you allow it. Some people are become litteraly their toughts, but their awareness is actualy deciding to get rid of ego but they are so blind that they dont see it and they go crazy/manic.

Being stuck in lower mind - brain is seruois problem and cause of all bad shit.

 

[t_xeplionhell]

Being stuck in lower mind - brain is seruois problem and cause of all bad shit.

Have u noticed that u can create intent without having toughts. Have u noticed u can observe when your brain dont think, observe when your brain thinks but realising its not your intent which is creating toughts if you just observe them without creating new toughts with intent, realise that you can observe anything and nothing - which makes you awareness/observer - all and nothing like cosmos is. Awareness is cuz of that nondual, robots/human bodies are dual made of 0 and 1 and no awareness can exist in such, its above physical existance made of dualism. Something that is not 0 and not 1, but also not 0 and 1 at same time is what it is, thus how something that is not good and not bad and not good and bad can be bad, it cant - it is by default good in our perception but its not xd, thats deep isnt it.

 

[iridescentblack]

@iridescentblack have u noticed that invega makes chakras irritable like it puts ton of sharp shit.

Yes; at some point I had to perform chakra removal on my sacral chakra in order to heal colitis.

Have u noticed that u can create intent without having toughts. Have u noticed u can observe when your brain dont think, observe when your brain thinks but realising its not your intent which is creating toughts if you just observe them without creating new toughts with intent, realise that you can observe anything and nothing - which makes you awareness/observer - all and nothing like cosmos is. Awareness is cuz of that nondual, robots/human bodies are dual made of 0 and 1 and no awareness can exist in such, its above physical existance made of dualism. Something that is not 0 and not 1, but also not 0 and 1 at same time is what it is, thus how something that is not good and not bad and not good and bad can be bad, it cant - it is by default good in our perception but its not xd, thats deep isnt it.

The problem I think, with other people, comes from an inability to observe themselves in any given situation. My hypothesis is that narcissists, especially, have learned behaviors that make them look for certain cues (but from other people) to see what they're like in social circumstances. Like you said, robotic.

The humble observer, however, emphatically realizes by observing the self in said social standings. It's a lot like putting your "seat" in the very back of your mind and watching yourself go through just about anything, including meditation.

Invega, I felt was a lot like that to a degree. I was stuck, for nearly a decade, observing myself going through the process of undergoing an unpleasant experience. Regaining control was the cool part.

 

[Marian.username@gmail]

Does the brain return to normal during a very slow taper off ap from neurotransmiters supersensivity?

 

[Gdvffh]

Man i hate being on antipsychotics. I just feel like shit all the time. Im looking forward to finally getting off this CTO and getting off antipsychotics for good. The good thing for us is there releasing new drugs in the coming years which shouldnt have all these side effects. Maybe in the future no one will be put on invegga sustenna