[Combo Subthread] 2C-B & Dissociatives

[Thanatos]

This is the sub-thread of the Big and Dandy 2C-B thread in which to discuss the combination of 2C-B and dissociatives. Please direct all questions and discussion about 2C-B plus dissociatives to this thread.

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has anyone else done coke and 2C-B together besides me?
It was a strange experience because it was my first time blowing and doing 2C-B.

 

[psilocybonaut]

If you are going to mix it with MDMA, take the MDMA either 3 hours BEFORE or 3 hours AFTER you take the 2C-B. Don't take them at the same time, otherwise they will feel like they are "fighting each other" for control of your brain. 2C-B + MDMA is a great combo, but it can be more intense than MDMA or 2C-B alone. Maybe you can have the MDMA on hand and take it if you feel the need to around 3 hours after eating the 2C-B.

And I would DEFINITELY recommend taking 22mg orally, no more and no less, and please don't snort any. I think that 2C-B/2C-I are the best and smoothest introductions to psychedelics. They can be quite introspective and great while not being scary, and they prepare you for more intense psychedelics like LSD and mushrooms.

 

[kong]

26mg 2c-b combined amazingly well with ketamine. Highly detailed vortexes wrapping into rooms shifting in and out of each other. A dynamic control panel made of brightly colored buttons and alien characters provided navigation for much of the experience.

The 2c-b seemed to lower the threshold for entering the k-hole. I wasn't exactly weighing the k I was insufflating, but it didn't take much to significantly alter my perspective of "location".

I could open my eyes and easily recognize the room so I wasn't in a classic full blown k-hole, never the less, the visual experience and sense of dissociation was just as apparent as similar experiences with lsd and higher doses of ketamine so long as I was laying down eyes closed.

Deep at points, mostly insanely recreational.

 

[Solipsis]

Ahh niiiice, I've heard from a lot of accounts that this is such a recommendable combination - yesterday a buddy of mine said the same thing and he's coming over in less than 2 weeks when we will make an evening of it. I like both in their own right and can only remotely guess at the combination, K & acid feels like sacredness to me - do you need to keep an eye on either the 2C-B or the K when combining those? Or is this a very benign experience, I'm a pretty seasoned psychedelic user familiar with all sorts of dissociated trips though I haven't had all that much experience with actual dissociatives (nitrous a lot though, DXM less than 10 times, K less than 20 probably) - so I'm not really too bothered with the thought of the combination.

But I'd really like some pointers (also on dosages) and more attempts at explaining the effects please! :D

 

[kong]

Its fairly benign, 2c-b isn't near as deep as lsd in combination with k for me. It isn't as earth shattering. Lsd turns ketamine into a whole different animal. Chews me up and spits me out Still, ketamine is involved so the 2c-b experience has the potential to get deeep...

I can't stress enough have visually beautiful the experience was. The 2c-b added greatly to the ketamine tunnels. The ability to "navigate" started at a much lower dosage of K than is usually required. (not to say I didn't do quite a bit of k over the night)

If I were to do it again i'd take 30mg of the 2c-b and bump roughly 50-75mg K as needed to maintain the space I was looking for. (or just bump 200mg 1.5hrs into the 2c-b)

 

[Solipsis]

Thanks a lot man!

 

[LysergicEpiphany]

Cannabis, 2CE, 2CB, LSD, and Ketamine; 3gs of K, 2 capsules of 2CB, a wrap of 2CE, 6 hits of good lsd (~80mcg+) and 10 grams of high quality bud The setting: my old place, lots of random old stuff around to remind me of good memories, with one of my best pals and his Girl. We also went on a journey to pick up more Cid, it was like driving through a vortex of swirling trees that created shadowed faces within they're withered twisting branches, really the most intense drive ive ever been on ! That night i also beleive that my dog was communicating with me through a wavelength that is only opened up within my mind when i take psychedelics There were like blobs/ Bubbles floating past me and on through my house, i could morph these by moving my fingers and it would distort whatever they were floating infront of, pretty cool effect ^^ My trip was accompanied with a varied selection of music, it was fascinating how listening to different genres would change my mood and emotions. Well thats about all of what i can dig out of my K rotten brain at this precise moment in space, Hope you enjoyed my contribution, Peace.
PS; Happy Trippin

 

[johntheman]

I am getting either 2c-i or 2c-e. I haven't tried any of the 2c's yet, can anyone recommend which one would be best for a first time 2c experience?

 

[fly-]

2C-B + Ketamine + Nitrous is fucking win! 2C-B pulls to a total different side while Ketamine to another, join together is really interesting. I was seeing everything in very slow motion, like in reality was thinking faster, because my reaction time was perfect. I also had some strong hallucinations with almost OBE experience, but probably more for the K + N20. It was also really really deep at certain stage.

 

[✰hyperobjects✰]

With 25mgs of 2c-b and 100mg of ketamine I turned into the country Iraq and thought people were trying to smuggle things across my borders. Exciting and Nervous. VERY Intense. My friend called me during this experience and I started stammering on about how absolutely terrifying it is to be a person in a body again. he laughed. I also realized after I got off the phone that I had been wrapping my left foot up in several layers of pink ducktape. One of my favorite drug experiences to date. haha.



Whenever I mix Ketamine with serotonin psychedelics, and 2c-*s especially, I have body transformation experiences:

With 2c-e and ketamine I was having sex with ma BF whilst reading an article about the fractal dynamics of the psyche and I turned into a snowflake. it was cold. ^_^

With 2c-i, mushrooms, and ketamine I became a bouncing ball of clear energy that kept changing colors: first clear, then blue, then green, then pink. then clear again. so pretty.

Highly recommend 2c-b/e/i with ketamine.

Also have mixed 2c-b with MXE a few times, and while it's been fun, I don't get anywhere near the same sort of transformative I-became-other-objects experiences that I do mixing 2c-*s with K. I think it's largely because with MXE I tend to feel like I'm still receiving more imput from my peripheral nervous system so I still have the image of my body-map online and I don't fully dissociate into mental representation. I also think that's why I tend to have more motor coordination with MXE than K.

MXE + 2c-B =mind fucked synergy, things are psychedelic and muddled. Can be good party vibes, but found myself interacting with people in fragmentary sentences because I couldn't complete a thought for several hours. With 2c-b + Ketamine, everything was crisp clear with vivid Persian architecture.

Dissociatives + Serotonin psychedelics also tends to the two battle out, the psychedelic is trying to project your mind into the external environment and the dissociative is trying to turn off your external perception so you can explore pure neurocognitive space. Several trips with mushrooms + ketamine I felt like this was the case and I would get static pixel OEVs where my visual field would glitch out when K and mushrooms would fight for my attention.

 

[limonov]

I've found myself sort of 'growing out of' the traditional serotonin psychedelics as I've got older- I'm not sure if it is simply a case of 'familiarity breed contempt' or whether I've genuinely 'lost the magic' due to having taken psychedelics for so many years (I didn't really abuse psychedelics that much, but I tripped regularly for about 4 years), but these days I find myself getting much more out of dissociative trips- DXM, Ketamine, Methoxetamine, 4-MeO-PCP (and hopefully soon 3-MeO-PCP...) and even nitrous oxide holds far more interest for me than LSD or 2C's these days.

That said, I have found that the combination of psychedelics and dissociatives to be truely magical- they augment eachother perfectly and often the dissociative smooths out the rough-edges of the trip. People talk about 'adding a little colour' to their k-hole when combining 2C's with ket and it's a really appropriate way of putting it- the visuals are both unique and beautiful.

20mg 2C-B + 50mg Methoxetamine plugged was an epic cosmic voyage- this was one of the earlier times I plugged methoxetamine, so I M-holed hard- 3-4 hours of complete ego-death/union with the transcendent, I saw thousands of tiny six-armed Indian Goddessess streaming out of a split in reality/the ceiling, each one dancing in unision with the others before forming a large mandala that floated before me in the middle of the room- I know this sounds like a complete cliche, because it totally is, but this was the first time I experienced something remotely like the stereotypical 'hallucinogenic experience', I can remember noticing (I studied religion at university) that the style of the mandala was Tibetan Buddhist, but the iconography was all Hindu which suprised me as I do not have much sympathy for Hinduism as a religion.

25mg 2C-B + 50mg Methoxetamine snorted- once again, magical- extremely euphoric, uplifting and colourful- amazing CEV/OEV, but not in overwhelming way, in fact this combo is pretty good for group tripping I've found because the 2C-B adds a real sociability to the Methoxetamine (which itself can be good for going out on, but not necessarily good to socialise on- if you know what I mean?). Interestingly, snorting the two substances at the same time seems to delay the onset of the 2C-B slightly while speeding up the onset of the Methoxetamine- it all feels like it starts kicking in unision. It has quite a pleasant bodyload also.

However, to be honest, 2C-B isn't the best 2C to use in combination with dissociatives- I think that dissociatives (particularly methoxetamine/ketamine) combine exceptionally well with 2C-E & 2C-P- the dissociative softens the uncomfortable bodyload that many people experience on them while adding extremely immersive CEV/OEV. 20mg 2C-P (a high dose I know, I am very experienced with 2C-P/2C-E and experience little nausea YMMV) oral with 300mg ketamine plugged at about +1:30 (K-hole dose taken as peak starts) resulted in this bizarre, amazing K-hole involving a huge amount of strange raised hierogylphs flowing over warping surfaces, liquid floors, floating mechanical orbs (like the jedi training orb in Star Wars that Luke uses the force to 'see') shining coloured beams of light onto me as I lay in bed. I've also had many a good night snorting a combination of 50mg methoxetamine and 20mg 2C-E simultanously- the mxe takes care of the bodyload issues and 2C-E's already beautiful visuals are given the ability to really shine.

 

[fly-]

I seriosuly dont get the fun of people just abusing drugs without getting any knowledge in return. THis being said, I cant understand the fun oof K, or N2O, or both together, because I tend to forget easily the answers specially N20. It can be immensiley profound but when Im returning to earth forgot everything really pointless BUT... mixed with psychedelics, 2cb in this case, and even better with acid, can remember all the p mythological-philosophical-anthropological crazyness in my head. Yes, dissociatives and psychedelics were meant to be tested together.

 

[fly-]

OMG if you guys have MXE do try it with 2cb!!!!!!

its one of the most crazy and euphoric combos ever tried. the opioid effect and DARI comes to forefront, and the visuals get much more organic and 3d.

Redosing doesnt work too.. After 6h i redosed 27mg 2cb and 30mg of MXE without any euphoric effects, just visuals and really speedy like had amphetamines. Didnt like, there was a "dirty" feeling to it.

 

[gymstud]

2cb + nitrous ? Worth a try?

Think of trying this combo has any1 tried it?
Is it any good?
What time into a snorted 2cb trip sould I try nitrous?
Should I try nitrous on its own first?
Is there anything ekse relivent?

 

[rc_headache28]

Nitrous is great in combo with most drugs especially psychedelics I love me some nitrous Just be sure to be in a comfortable setting and not to crack off too many nitrous Dont want to be one of them people who use to much and pass out and end up cracking their head open or knocking their teeth out. Ive used nitrous with MDMA Shrooms Lsd Ketamine weed 2c-I-E-C- 4-ho-met 4 aco dmt Bk MDMA salvia xanax and the list goes on and on. As always just be safe about it and enjoy.

And for the second part of the question Anytime as long as the drug has kicked in. Be careful about using it too early though cause it can make you sleepy and 2c-b isnt that speedy of a drug But with that said experiment everybodys body is different when it comes to drugs effects.

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

I've done nitrous on 2ce and it was extremely powerful to say the least.
Nitrous is a fantastic drug to mix with others, it really potentiates the effects of both drugs

 

[2c-goinsane]

i really like nitrous + psychedelic drug combos very enjoyable imo, it kicks visuals up a notch and overall euphoria, you'll have a lot of audio hallucinations as well, the womp womps especially. i even really like nitrous by its self but i prefer doing it on a psychedelic drug or on a psychedelic drug combo. doing nitrous on a drug lasts longer than just doing nitrous on its own in some cases ime aswel.

i do like 2cx compounds + nitrous aswel, have done it with 2ci and 2ce a good amount of times, id do them again for sure.

i rarely use nitrous though, i keep nitrous and inhalants to a minimum can become addictive and isn't great for you in large amounts of course just like with anything. but when i do use them i feel great. i do recommend doing nitrous by it self just once or twice before you do it on a drug just in case. also do it sitting down in a comfortable position so you don't fall and hit your head on some object.

 

[RhythmSpring]

^ Could you describe "the womp womps"? Are they anything like the wowows?

 

[2c-goinsane]

^ Could you describe "the womp womps"? Are they anything like the wowows?

yes i think we're talking about the same thing

 

[gymstud]

Thanks guys I'm looking forward to it
Think I will try it on its in fitst then give combo a go