Colombian traffickers still provide 90% of cocaine in the US

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Five years and $3 billion into the most aggressive counternarcotics operation ever here, U.S. and Colombian officials say they have eradicated a record-breaking area of coca plants. Yet cocaine remains as available as ever on American streets, perhaps more so.

"It's very disturbing," said a senior State Department official traveling with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who is on a five-day tour of the region.

Colombian traffickers still provide 90 percent of the cocaine used in the United States and 50 percent of the heroin, just as they did five years ago, the government says.

"Key indicators of domestic cocaine availability show stable or slightly increased availability in drug markets throughout the country," the White House drug policy office said in February. Officials added that prices have remained stable and purity has improved.

Several senior officials said they were perplexed and disappointed. The White House report said, "There is little interagency consensus for this disparity."

Over five and a half years, the United States has spent nearly $3 billion on programs to fight drug trafficking, train the Colombian military to battle insurgents who control much of the drug trade and improve institutions of government. The initiative is called Plan Colombia.

The centerpiece of this effort has been the use of a small air force, 82 aircraft, to spray herbicide on coca plants across the country. Over five years, more than 525,000 hectares, or 1.3 million acres, of coca plants and 21,000 hectares of opium poppy have been destroyed at great cost. Traffickers have shot down at least five of the planes; three lives have been lost.

Theories abound on the reason for the disparity between the eradication numbers and the availability estimates, and how to deal with it. Luis Alberto Moreno, the Colombian ambassador to the United States, said he believed the enforcement teams should be uprooting the plants instead of spraying them with herbicide.

The senior State Department official said he suspected traffickers were hoarding vast supplies of cocaine and doling it out slowly. Representative Dan Burton, an Indiana Republican who is chairman of the Western Hemisphere subcommittee, said he thought the Colombians should be using a more powerful herbicide. And the White House drug policy office hypothesizes that the data on drug cultivation might be inaccurate.

General Jorge Daniel Castro, director of the Colombian national police and one of the country's primary experts on the issue, described the drug-enforcement paradox as "a complex phenomenon," but added when pressed that he believed the traffickers were replanting plants as soon as the planes left.

The Bush administration is asking Congress to extend Plan Colombia for at least one more year. The president's budget proposal asks for an additional $734 million next year on top of the $2.9 billion already spent.

A senior State Department official who is involved in the Colombia program said, "Give us another year or so and see if there is any effect." Moreno said the traffickers had "improved their productivity, but I think we are getting close to the tipping point." He is lobbying Congress to renew the financing.

Each eradication mission is a complex operation involving a former military plane converted to crop duster and five or six other aircraft including helicopter gunships that provide protection. The planes spray glyphosate on the crops; that is the generic name for the herbicide sold commercially as Roundup. It kills the plants but is said to leave no residue in the soil.

Earlier this year, the State Department reported that 2004 had been "another banner year." The spray planes had eradicated 136,000 hectares of coca plants. But it seemed a pyrrhic accomplishment. At about same time, the White House drug policy office reported that 114,000 hectares of coca plants remained, an area that was "statistically unchanged" from the previous year.
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$3 billion later, Colombian drugs still flow freely
By Joel Brinkley, NY Times
April 29, 2005


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buw ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Your Tax Dollars At Work.

That 3 billion COULD HAVE:

- built schools
- reduced poverty
- funded Medicare
- etc

Or... Bush's #2 idea!

3 more B52 Bombers!

I wonder how many Columbians will get some disease from the herbicides sprayed....

I wonder how long it will take before a "Round Up Ready" Coca plant either naturally is selected or cloned with genes for herbicide resistance..
 
The Bush administration is asking Congress to extend Plan Colombia for at least one more year. The president's budget proposal asks for an additional $734 million next year on top of the $2.9 billion already spent.

A senior State Department official who is involved in the Colombia program said, "Give us another year or so and see if there is any effect." Moreno said the traffickers had "improved their productivity, but I think we are getting close to the tipping point." He is lobbying Congress to renew the financing.

Can you think of ANY OTHER ASPECT of government that an agency can say things like "but I *think* we are getting *close* to the tipping point"? another 750million based on a HUNCH?!?! There is NO DATA to support what they claim in the article.

So what has happened is the cartels have improved their methods of production - which will only continue the more they force the situation. I can't wait until this program ends.. there will be a GLUT of cocaine for the world to enjoy.
 
lifeisforliving said:
buw ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Your Tax Dollars At Work.

That 3 billion COULD HAVE:

- built schools
- reduced poverty
- funded Medicare
- etc

Or... Bush's #2 idea!

3 more B52 Bombers!

I wonder how many Columbians will get some disease from the herbicides sprayed....

I wonder how long it will take before a "Round Up Ready" Coca plant either naturally is selected or cloned with genes for herbicide resistance..

Too late! ^^^
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=155538&highlight=herbicide+resistant+cocaine
 
"Traffickers have shot down at least five of the planes; three lives have been lost."

Good, I hope they shoot down more of the kuntz.

This article gets linked to most of these stories like this. It is about what really happens when you pour weed killer on people.
Article here
 
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Here's the fucking silly thing. Even if only 90 pounds of Coke made it into the U.S., and ten pounds was say, chemically engineered here at home, it would still be the evil 90% from Colombia they say it is. Be it nine pounds or 9000 it doesn't matter anyway, the government still wants more money for a losing war.
 
umm, how long have we been fighting this drug war???for fuggs sake, lets realize that it is pointless to try and defeat the supply when there is SO MUCH DEMAND...i mean, its about money, and yr average columbian farmer has 2 choices, to grow coffee or coca, and since yer typical coffee farmer manages to barely make a living, its only lgical that most will turn to growing coca....

im rooting for the traffickers all the way...
 
"George Bush says 'we are losing the war on drugs'. Well you know what that implies? There's a war going on, and people on drugs are winning it! Well what does that tell you about drugs? Some smart, creative motherfuckers on that side."
BILL HICKS
 
lifeisforliving said:
buw ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Your Tax Dollars At Work.

That 3 billion COULD HAVE:

- built schools
- reduced poverty
- funded Medicare
- etc

Or... Bush's #2 idea!

3 more B52 Bombers!

I wonder how many Columbians will get some disease from the herbicides sprayed....

I wonder how long it will take before a "Round Up Ready" Coca plant either naturally is selected or cloned with genes for herbicide resistance..

ive got a better idea,

SPEND 3 BILLION EDUCATING PEOPLE ABOUT DRUGS SO THEY CAN MAKE THEIR OWN INTELLIGENT DECISIONS ABOUT THEM
 
ive got a better idea,

SPEND 3 BILLION EDUCATING PEOPLE ABOUT DRUGS SO THEY CAN MAKE THEIR OWN INTELLIGENT DECISIONS ABOUT THEM

What? And CONDONE people enjoying drugs? Don't you know that that sort of HAPPINESS is a SIN?

JesusLand says no to drugs!
 
ok, just say we take that 3 billion and educate people about the truths of drugs and their effects...where will that take us??honestly, i see no solution to the drug war..if we give the facts on drug use, and many find that drugs arent nearly as dangerous as once thought, what do you think will happen??we will have many more users, is that a good thing??tryin to devil advoc here..
 
Several senior officials said they were perplexed and disappointed.


Gee wilbur.. it's our plan hasnt done anything for the last 5 years.. what should we do?

"Give us another year or so and see if there is any effect.


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lifeisforliving said:
Can you think of ANY OTHER ASPECT of government that an agency can say things like "but I *think* we are getting *close* to the tipping point"?



the irs when it "misplaces" 370 billion

the military when they pay 450 for a hammer, like the irs or the drug war, thats not an oversight, thats long green into pockets
 
I'll bet all that spraying has caused lots of damage to the rain forest down there. I hope the drug traffickers shoot some more of the fuckers down. They deserve to die.

It is completely irrational to continue to spend that kind of money on something that has no effect at all on drug availability(not that they should have any control over what other people put into their bodies). The spraying also destroys food crops. The fuckers don't give a damn about the people whose lives they destroy in their war on drugs.
 
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