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College = over, degree = failed. Lost

BrahamCracker

BrahamCracker

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I'm lost. Confused. Unsure of everything. Fucked up in the head. Quit drugs for 2 years and finally started to get my school on track. Was going to produce a TV show for the school. Life was AWESOME. But not, I cannot get the loans, and in 2 days will be officially another college drop out. 4 years of loans grinning at me. A hopeful future shattered like my soul.

I am not sure what I will do now. I won a battle today about not shoving a needle in my arm filled with heroin. My back up plan for now is the military. Basically I just need someone to talk to and offer advice if you want. I'm low.
 
You need to stop worrying about appeasing everyone else and worry about yourself. It might take longer, but I've known people who've started college at 30 and now have their masters in protein biochemistry, you can do it man.
 
Bro you sound like your tripping. I don't see exactly how this is such a horrible thing? So you didn't do as good in school as you wanted. Ok. Go back and do some more then? Just don't leave until you have a good job lined up. Thats it. Your situation sounds nice to me right now lol.
 
I have two days to get the loans, i've been denied because I cant find a cosigner. My dad is dead and my mom is up to her knees in it already. I bet my situation is nice to a lot of people but it's shit to what I could of had. and a coma sounds good, limbo would be better
 
hobhead said:
a coma would be a reasonable alternative to soldiering .
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As bitter and cynical of an asshole as I am, and you are too.... for good reasons...... you should know better, Hob.

Sometimes there's just no other alternative. The military has turned many a life around. It is what they make of it....

Until they get sent into a warzone, get fucked up by some cowardly fuck hajii, and then booted out into a system far more fucked up than any branch of the services..... the VA.
As long as they don't catch the golden-BB though, they've got it made.

But honestly.... if there's no other choice....
I wholeheartedly endorse choosing the military.

Plus now if they pick some REMF job-specialty, there's all kinds of schooling they can do, and take several half-a-days off their work week to go to classes. people can get *stacked* with degrees at the end of an 8yr enlistment
 
BrahamCracker said:
I have two days to get the loans, i've been denied because I cant find a cosigner. My dad is dead and my mom is up to her knees in it already. I bet my situation is nice to a lot of people but it's shit to what I could of had. and a coma sounds good, limbo would be better
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Take a semester off, its not the end of the world. Despite how you're feeling now, you can finish your degree, and because you want it, not others.
 
BrahamCracker said:
I have two days to get the loans, i've been denied because I cant find a cosigner. My dad is dead and my mom is up to her knees in it already. I bet my situation is nice to a lot of people but it's shit to what I could of had. and a coma sounds good, limbo would be better
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Your government should be taking care of ensuring you get approved for loans. You can't rely on private banks to guarantee equal opportunity access to education.

School exists to reward potential, not social status. It disgusts me that some Countries still allow low-income families to slip through the cracks like this.
 
Yeh I was suprised about him not being able to get loans. So the problem is your mom won't sign? But its not exactly her paying the loans back is it? Why should she even care?

All it takes it a signature. My own mom has enough on her plate but its not going to effect her life in anyway me going to college. She cosigns, I pay the loans when ever I graduate. Its that simple.
I also went to prison and get some pretty decent Pel Grants due to it, I mean society IS structured to help ex-inmates, and it is structured to help low income families. I don't think it really has anything to do with their income, just the fact his mom doesn't wanna get involved.

In all honesty if that was my mother all hell would break loose. Unless you have a situation where you haven't worked in years and years, than I could understand why she wouldn't sign. She prob wants to see that you have a work ethic to actually pay the loans back. But if thats NOT the reason, she has no real reason to not cosign. I just don't get it I'm sorry.

But what I can say about college. And I know you hear it a lot. But you don't have to go to college to make money in this world. I'm serious. It seems at least half of my graduating class graduated than went back to working retail, or worse couldn't even find jobs at all. Its a good time to work on your education, but untill the job market improves I personally don't see it making a big difference. Of course this will also depend on your major.

I just finished up my BA and have applied to at least 40 different clinics/mental health practices, and have gotten 1 interview out of all the resumes I sent out. So whats worse than not going to college, is having a degree thats good for nothing. Or being taught a degree is everything untill you get in the real world and noticed experience is really so much.
If I were you at least try to get some experience now in what you want to do. Some business's will also pay for your education once you get your foot in the door, so I wouldn't really freak about it that much. You will eventually go to college if its something you want bad enough. Trust me when I say its not that hard. I've had to wd before and take leaves of absence (once for 19 months when I was in prison) and I had so many reasons to believe I'd never get my education, but as long as you keep persisting you WILL get your degree.

Just don't focus too much on the degree doing magic however, or that could let you down more than not even going to college.
 
It's perfectly reasonable to assume that the mother has bad credit or no fixed assets of value, and therefore wouldn't be a viable co-signer.
 
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The military definitely offers a some nice things. You can eventually go back to school in the military, and you will be offered a job and a career that you can list as job experience.

The military may just be the fresh start that you need!
 
BrahamCracker said:
Ok. I still lose a lot, and let everyone at the show down. I hate hurting people and unfortunetely i have to
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Heres a quote from Billy Cosby:

"There's one thing that will certainly never get you anywhere in life; and that is people pleasing."

Listen to Bill Cosby's wisdom and stop fucking PEOPLE PLEASING! %)
 
I talked to the school and took the semester off. Working and still get to do the TV show, however can't work on campus in it, so it's mostly off campus stuff. Sucks but I have to graduate. My goal was to look for a job or officer training so it will just have to wait a half year i guess. Thanks for all the posts.

And, if your still wondering, my mom has signed on all my loans and it was really hard to get anything last year even. It happens, it shouldn't, but the way debt it today these banks are less likely to give out loans.
 
Doesn't your school have programs to help people who can't afford tuition? As long as you maintain good academic standing, they should defer tuition costs.

On my school's website, it says clearly that "A [edited] student will never be denied admission based on inability to afford an eduction."

I'd speak to admissions. It's not in the spirit of academia to deny someone who is in financial need. Lecture halls will always have an empty seat. There's no reason why you shouldn't be allowed to keep going. Go book an appointment with your financial aid dept. and see what you can work out together.
 
I have a degree, but am returning to college at age 35 to get another. It's not like dropping out of a semester at college is the end of the world and you can't ever finish your degree.

As suggested above, take a semester or even a year off. A lot of people choose to do that anyway, you can work, earn some money for your return and get the loan situation sorted.
 
^ (To Cyc) Being admitted to a school and paying tuition are completely unrelated in my experience. If he's already attended the school and is not on academic (or other) probabtion/suspension, the admissions office is not the place to go.

There should be a Financial Aid Office counselor who can give you advice specific to your situation.

Bottom line is, if you're not ready for college, don't go now. It will still be there when you are ready to be serious about it (and you'd better be fucking serious about it when you do go ;)).

College will wait for you. Life won't.
 
I'm sorry but that "you'd better be fucking serious" statment sounds more like propaganda than truth.
You DO have like 1 class every semester you have to be somewhat serious about, but I can't tell you how many classes I had where I missed more than half attendance (cause so many professors don't even take attendance) never had a single day of homework, and never really had to do anything but study for a couple days before the mid term and final.

I go to a competitive private uni, known for being rather hard to get into, but I'm not really smart at all. In fact, I think in your average american university a chimpanzee could get their bachelors. There are definitely certain professors who will make you work for your grade, but for the most part I wasn't that serious at all (at least till doing my thesis you have to be somewhat serious about that) and wound up with a 3.2 gpa. And this wasn't just this one uni it was also the 2 year community college I went to before that, and most colleges that my friends attended.

Not trying to give the wrong idea but college is more what you can and can't get away with than being serious as all hell about it. Once you understand the basic logistics of specific professors after your first year, its rather simple to sleep through half a semester and still ace most classes in your sophmore year. Anytime there was a professor who gave homework everyday, or gave impossible exams to pass, they were usually the ones with 20 empty seats come add/drop week. In fact, out of the 128 credits I acquired, I can only name 3 classes I actually had to be serious about. Research methods, stats, and senior thesis. But maybe its different for other majors who knows. I do know when I majored in chemistry organic chem 2 was a nightmare, but I still believe at least 75% of most classes are a joke.
Not to argue just stating me experience.
 
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