Cocaine cocaine What to cut cocaine with?

[Marblesthedog]

I am looking to cut my own personal cocaine (and ketamine). I quit smoking cigarettes in december and I've realized I reach for a straw more often just to have that physical thing to do. So what I want is something to cut my coke and ketamine for financial reasons and to not just swap one addiction for another. Doesn't have to get me high or anything, ideally either flavorless or similar to cocaine. Any thoughts?
This might be the wrong forum for, but any thoughts on something I can take intranasally at night time?

 

[someguyontheinternet]

Why not try vaping zero nicotine ecigs if you need something to help with the fixation

 

[foodcrisis]

i'm trying to figure out if the reason the thread specifically about cutting ketamine was closed was because cutting ketamine has risk of forming bacteria like the poster said and cutting coke doesn't have that, or if they just missed this thread and would've closed it.

i'm thinking there are a ton of coke cuts that are probably not too bad, but probably not something people on this board wanna recommend?

i was gonna say you are best just taking smaller lines. if you think about it, you're still gonna go through the motions of getting the stuff out and snorting it every time you need it,, i don't know if you like filling up your nose with more stuff cutting. i don't think that will really make it last longer or anything. i'd say just go for smaller lines and space those out.

 

[Marblesthedog]

I have tried vaping. It isn't for me. Anything involving smoking or things like smoking just make me want a cigarette more.

 

[someguyontheinternet]

Generally adulterating a substance makes its use more harmful which is why we generally don't allow questions like this but we can definitely make other suggestions to help with the smoking fixation

 

[Marblesthedog]

i'm trying to figure out if the reason the thread specifically about cutting ketamine was closed was because cutting ketamine has risk of forming bacteria like the poster said and cutting coke doesn't have that, or if they just missed this thread and would've closed it.

i'm thinking there are a ton of coke cuts that are probably not too bad, but probably not something people on this board wanna recommend?

i was gonna say you are best just taking smaller lines. if you think about it, you're still gonna go through the motions of getting the stuff out and snorting it every time you need it i don't know if you like filling up your nose with more stuff. i don't think that will really make it last longer or anything. i'd say just go for smaller lines and space those out.

 

[Marblesthedog]

Yeah I'm not sure why it was closed. This is my first time posting here and maybe I violated a rule I wasn't aware of?
I know folks cut stuff with things all the time, and I know that there are loads of things that can be absorbed intranasally. It seems like there is probably some thing that I could mix in that would "pair" nicely and potentially have less draw backs
I didn't really understand what the references to bacteria meant fully.

 

[Marblesthedog]

Generally adulterating a substance makes its use more harmful which is why we generally don't allow questions like this but we can definitely make other suggestions to help with the smoking fixation

I don't think I fully understand. Aren't most things people are buying already adulterated somewhere along the line already?

 

[someguyontheinternet]

Cutting a substance tends to make it more difficult to measure a dose and in all cases that I can think of the substance used to cut will cause more harm than the drug itself. Being a harm reduction website, this goes against our mission to reduce harm so we tend not to support such conversations.

I don't think I fully understand. Aren't most things people are buying already adulterated somewhere along the line already?

Sometimes and sometimes not but in either case, cutting it more still increases the potential for harm. We do allow discussions for purification because removing adulterants reduces harm which is in line with our core mission

 

[Marblesthedog]

Cutting a substance tends to make it more difficult to measure a dose and in all cases that I can think of the substance used to cut will cause more harm than the drug itself. Being a harm reduction website, this goes against our mission to reduce harm so we tend not to support such conversations.



Sometimes and sometimes not but in either case, cutting it more still increases the potential for harm. We do allow discussions for purification because removing adulterants reduces harm which is in line with our core mission

Ok, so there aren't things I can throw up my nose that are less bad for me than cocaine? Even things that don't even get me high? I understand what you are saying about dosage, but I am pretty careful about that. Currently I sometimes mix it with ritalin. I mix up a lil "batch" and still do the amount I would do if it were just cocaine. The amount I put in the "batch" is never an amount that would be dangerous if I did it all at once, which I don't do.

 

[Nicocastillo7]

Someone on the street was talking to me the other day (I don't remember what we were talking about) and he was telling me that his uncles (in their 40s and 50s) when they wanted to come down from the effects of cocaine because they were feeling very excited, they would mix a little cocaine with something that I assume is quetiapine and snort that. According to what he told me, that made them come down quickly and they preferred it to cutting off their fingers (a very common practice or at least I know it's common) he couldn't really mention "quetiapine" because he told me he didn't know exactly what they mixed the cocaine with but he said the name was similar to "ketamine" so I guess he was referring to quetiapine (it's a very prescribed drug here) the older people here in Argentina have a way of taking cocaine that I find very interesting, they are simply from another generation, a generation that suffered many things and a historical moment where drug traffickers saw a very profitable business in exchange for leaving everyone totally destroyed (the poor have access to cocaine and cocaine paste at somewhat accessible prices, so it's common in all kinds of environments). I just bought after a long time from a trusted old plug a gram of good cocaine for less than 20 dollars, I say it's good because just one line was enough to be fine for an hour and The effect is clean, I live a bit south of Argentina not near production areas and still get something decent. It sounds like a little to say something like 20 dollars but here that is some money and I could say that it is very expensive.
On the subject of thread, it is really bad for your nose the act of snorting anything. I know that snorting is a difficult act to stop, but do not look for something to snort, even if it is much less harmful whatever you choose, sooner or later you will say: fuck this, I need a real line and maybe you will go back to snorting.. in my opinion. Greetings and stay safe!

 

[gordonliddy]

Generally adulterating a substance makes its use more harmful

Are you sure? I feel like mixing whiskey with water makes it safer for example. I'm not saying this to initiate a debate with you or to be contrarian, I just actually don't understand if this is correct or not. On the other hand, rules are rules.

which is why we generally don't allow questions like this but we can definitely make other suggestions to help with the smoking fixation

I am aware of two cuts for cocaine that are generally considered safe, one popular and one unpopular. I certainly won't post them as I don't want to undermine your decision here. Given that drug dealers will probably end up reading this thread, wouldn't it be better if they knew what the safe cuts were?
That's usually a conversation that I have early on with a dealer. I say, "Well, as both of us are aware cutting is something that tends to happen in this industry. If you feel that you must step on my product, please use X to cut it with. If you cut it with anything else, we're going to have a conversation."

I'm sincerely interested in people's perspectives and I feel confident that the existing rules are truly for the best.

 

[Marblesthedog]

Generally adulterating a substance makes its use more harmful which is why we generally don't allow questions like this but we can definitely make other suggestions to help with the smoking fixation

I'm open to hearing suggestions, but this is also something that I've thought about for a long time and done a decent amount of research on both in terms of addictions in general and smoking specifically. I still don't understand why asking if there is something innocuous that I can use in combination with some drugs is considered anathema to harm reduction. My goal is to continue not smoking cigarettes and not consume more drugs than I "need" when I'm fairly certain lots of times my brain just wants the physical act of taking "something" and not even necessarily the high. How is trying to figure out how to do that not harm reduction? I'm not trying to be difficult, I just really don't understand

 

[deficiT]

How is trying to figure out how to do that not harm reduction? I'm not trying to be difficult, I just really don't understand

I personally agree that the conversation is worth having, whether people learn about the potential harms of different agents used in the adulteration of drugs, or give you better alternatives to doing this, I don't think it's inherently negligent to talk about this stuff. Others may disagree though.

Cutting a substance tends to make it more difficult to measure a dose and in all cases that I can think of the substance used to cut will cause more harm than the drug itself. Being a harm reduction website, this goes against our mission to reduce harm so we tend not to support such conversations.

I also agree with this though, and I think it is the ultimate answer that you should and would receive to this question.

I think someone else mentioned that you should just take smaller doses, either in this thread or the last, that's definitely the easiest route.

As well, yes many liquids/solvents are used to make drug ingestion safer. Mostly this is used for things that are dosed orally, and only in substances that are very highly potent by weight, but I mean you can definitely snort a liquid too. I used to make my Nnome/nboh solutions into water and dose those nasally

Sounds like you might also have a bit of a process addiction to the ritual of snorting drugs, something to think about

 

[Marblesthedog]

I personally agree that the conversation is worth having, whether people learn about the potential harms of different agents used in the adulteration of drugs, or give you better alternatives to doing this, I don't think it's inherently negligent to talk about this stuff. Others may disagree though.

I also agree with this though, and I think it is the ultimate answer that you should and would receive to this question.

I think someone else mentioned that you should just take smaller doses, either in this thread or the last, that's definitely the easiest route.

As well, yes many liquids/solvents are used to make drug ingestion safer. Mostly this is used for things that are dosed orally, and only in substances that are very highly potent by weight, but I mean you can definitely snort a liquid too. I used to make my Nnome/nboh solutions into water and dose those nasally

Sounds like you might also have a bit of a process addiction to the ritual of snorting drugs, something to think about

I mostly have an addiction to taking *something* which I am really aware of, but, for me, harm reduction is snorting something rather than smoking cigarettes or getting drunk. Sure, it would be super cool if deep breathing were just as appealing as doing a bump, taking a shot or smoking a cigarette, but I'm not there yet. I've quit smoking, I've dramatically reduced my drinking to maybe 1 happy hour every week or 2. Staying off cigarettes is still fairly hard, so that's where my energy is right now.
I agree that adulterating substances can make measurements difficult, but it doesn't inherently have to. Like I said, I currently tend to mix coke with adderal or ritalin. I do it in small batches, just including the amount of coke I think is reasonable for a particular situation. It's pretty simple to not go overboard. And I pay attention to my ratio's. I try and make sure everything is blended really well, and can often tell by looking at consistency, or color if i'm about to do a line that isn't particularly well blended. I also don't do lines/bumps bigger than I would do with coke. So even if it all cocaine somehow, I'm ok. And if it was mixed with something that wasn't also a stimulant, the system would be even better.
All I ever remember hearing about is baby laxative which is obviously something I don't want. I've tried a few things in very small quantities (after looking up medical studies to see what research the is on intranasal delivery) and I can unequivocally say that things high in citric acid are unpleasant.