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Clonazolam v Diclazepam v Pyrazolam

Rybee

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Hi All - I've been reading many anecdotal reports of Clonazolam v Diclazepam and Diclazepam v Pyrazolam and Clonazolam v Pyrazolam which has helped somewhat. I really don't like Etizolam, it just doesn't seem to be effective for me.

As they're RC's there's not that much clear information published on their profile of effects. Nor is there any reliable source detailing their equivalent potency to 10mg Diazepam.

I think I'm looking for two out of the three listed. One I want to act as a very nice anxiolytic with that light floaty feeling that Diazepam often gives me, but I'm after minimal hypnotic effects from it - this will be largely used for therapeutic relief of anxiety.

The other one I want to be quite hard hitting, but not just to a blackout, I want to be awake to experience it, and I also want some level of anxiolytic effects which will be used more to induce sleep or relax when my anxiety is heightened.

From my research, Pyrazolam ticks the boxes of my first requirement.

However, I'm torn between Diclazepam and Clonazolam for my second requirement. I'm worried Clonazolam is going to be a heavy hitting hypnotic with little anxiolytic actions. And I'm also worried that Diclazepam will be okay on the anxiolytic front but not as hypnotic as I'd like to be.

I must note now that I detest Etizolam, I don't believe it provides any anxiolytic relief in the slightest and is reasonably amnesiac the morning after, possibly because I take ~5mg of it. I would much rather take just 10mg Diazepam for it's effects, or a bottle of beer, over 5mg of Etizolam. Give then touted equipotency conversions, that's equivalate 5mg of Etizolam to being as effective as 50mg Diazepam - which for me, is just completely untrue. I took 5mg of Etizolam ~5 hours earlier this evening and just felt a bit sleepy, with lots of yawning, no anxiolytic, andno relaxing chill in the slightest. Furthermore, I didn't feel ready to sleep at all. I'd much rather have drunk 1 or 2 small beers. As I've got an early morning tomorrow, I took 20mg of Diazepam and ~30min later am feeling very stress-free, relaxed, light, floaty and so content with myself and am just about readyto drift off to sleep after this post. Also, Etizolam gives me awful anterograde amnesia the morning after, which is quite unpleasant.

Please could you just quickly re-read over what I'm initially seeking advice on and then try and give me your opinions on the pros and cons of each? I've got a small window to order on Monday and it will be in large quantities so I need to have done my research before then.

Any help/answers you need from me, please do fire away!

Much love and hugs.

Rybee xxx
 
When it comes to anxiety relief without any other effects, then Pyrazolam does a great job, your research was correct. However I want to know what you mean by "hard-hitting". Do you mean a rapid onset of action or a heavy onset of action? The most recreational RC benzo is Nifoxipam. It is the only RC benzo that gave euphoria, not quite as good as Temazepam, but still decent. Nifoxipam is also quite sedative, but it lacks amnesic properties unless taken in very large doses. FlubromazePAM (not LAM) is also a very nice, smooth and sedative long-acting benzo.

Diazepam given a floaty feeling? That's new. Are you sure that wasn't a barbiturate or another GABAergic? Because if you take 5mg Etizolam, you will not feel 10mg/20mg of Diazepam for some time. Diclazepam is not the best choice. It give a more drowsy type sedation and makes you feel sluggish. As of Clonazolam, it is amnesic and easily causes blackouts, and I assume that you don't like that.
 
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