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Clonazepam and weed ?

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lakkpoll

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Hello everyone! Lately i have been having some wierd effects while high, i start feeling really nerveous and kinda afraid for nothing.

So could clonazepam taken before smoking help me to enjoy the high like i used to ? I have no benzo tolerance.

And if yes it helps, how much mg of clonazepam should i take to make sure i dont start feeling so damn wierd while high ?

The pills i have now is 2mg Rivotril by Roche.
 
Hi there.

Yes, dosing with clonazepam may help ease your anxiety. 2mg is a good beginning dose.

I have the same problem with cannabis. One hit equals an instant panic attack. Good thing there are medicines which help mediate that problem ;)
 
Thanks for the answer :)

I guess its panick attacks im getting also. Im not a frequent smoker, but i like to enjoy it a couple of times in the week.

Just yesterday i was with some friends and after we hit the bong i suddenly got a feeling that i was in great danger and i had to run fast. So thats what i did :D, and my heart was pounding real hard. So i guess that must be something like a panic attack.

Im sorry to hear that you also cant enjoy cannabis like it should be, but its good to hear that there is medicines that help. Im gonna try with 2mg tommorow before i smoke.

Im sorry for being a complete noob, but i am :). Should i take the pill and wait like 1 or 2 hours before i smoke ?

Thanks a lot.
 
The onset of clonazepam is ~45 minutes (if I recall) and since it is a medium duration benzodiazepine the peak is ~2-4 hours.

Do not worry about being new here. We all start as newbies.
 
Id say take less then 2mg's of clonazepam your first time. Weed fucks with some peoples memories and too much clonazepam will fuck with your memory too so i guess this effect could be potentiated. Besides 1mg of clonazepam if your a total noob to benzos is a good starting dose in my opinion. It's best to play it safe and not blackout. Clonazepam starts to work in about 45 minutes when swallowed give or take depending on if youve eaten or not. If you take it subligually it kicks in faster. Ive had it kick in after about 20 minutes when ive taken them that way.

I would say to avoid weed or atleast only take it very occasionally if your getting panic attacks from it. If you don't get panic attacks while not on weed why induce them? Ive seen this happen to alot of people usually as they get a wee bit older like up in there mid to late 20's where they used to live off weed when they where younger but now it just makes them anxious or brings on a full blown panic attack. Thankfully i never got that problem ;) .

Also you don't want to get addicted to benzos just for the sake of smoking weed. I would say not to take the clonazepam anymore then twice a week for this purpose because it's just not worth it.
 
I'd suggest a smaller dose if you have no tolerance - maybe starting at .5mg - or you'll probably just end up feeling really tired and....dull, if that makes sense. Also, no point in increasing your tolerance if you don't have to - I took Clonazepam two years, and I wish I'd dosed more conservatively. I still use it for the occasional weed-induced panic, though.

I'm pretty sure the onset is like 15 minutes if used sublingually - which is more efficient than oral use.

Welcome to BL :)

Edit: Oops, PA beat me to posting, and now this post is rather redundant. Ah, well. %)
 
The same thing happened to me. I had to stop completely. I can only smoke weed if I take Xanax beforehand. I only smoke once a year when I visit my in laws. However, paranoid is right, you don't want a benzo habit for the sake of smoking weed. And klonopin withdrawl is bullshit.
 
Thank you all for the answers and kind words.

Thanks to you and some searching i am now very aware of the danger of benzo addiction.

I am gonna try clonazepam subligually tonight before i smoke and if it works im gonna be very carefull not to use it too often.

Thanks again for the fast and good replies from all of you :)
 
long term benzo use now makes me need benzos in order to smoke or i get panic attacks. Weeds speeds up the GABA system. So if i'm wding from benzos and smoke, i'll have terrible panic attacks. before i took benzos i never had issues with weed. Was'nt until using them daily for almost two years now, if i don't have any and run out early and smoke, i get terrible effects.
 
I've been having anxiety attacks from weed almost everytime.
Clonazepam helps a lot but you will still feel a bit 'stupid' after smokng weed and that, i think, count for a lot of the unease that weed gives.

Let us know how it goes for you though.
 
Heroin Girl said:
I'd suggest a smaller dose if you have no tolerance - maybe starting at .5mg
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I have to disagree. What the OP described sounds like a panic attack, not generalized anxiety. 0.5mg may not work well enough.

Just yesterday i was with some friends and after we hit the bong i suddenly got a feeling that i was in great danger and i had to run fast. So thats what i did , and my heart was pounding real hard.
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I always take clonazepam with weed ( well, 78% the time ). I'd say 1mg is perfect. Any more than that for me is too sleep inducing.
 
mrjackjones said:
I have to disagree. What the OP described sounds like a panic attack, not generalized anxiety. 0.5mg may not work well enough.
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I think it's a panic attack, as well. I just thought .5mg would be a good starting point since the OP can always redose and get effects within fifteen minutes and use whatever dosage works the next time he smokes.

Just my opinion, though. :)

Let us know how it goes, lakkpoll.
 
Clinical Trials
Panic Disorder
The effectiveness of Clonazepam in the treatment of panic disorder was demonstrated in two double-blind, placebo-controlled studies of adult outpatients who had a primary diagnosis of panic disorder (DSM-IIIR) with or without agoraphobia. In these studies, Clonazepam was shown to be significantly more effective than placebo in treating panic disorder on change from baseline in panic attack frequency, the Clinician’s Global Impression Severity of Illness Score and the Clinician’s Global Impression Improvement Score.

Study 1 was a 9 week, fixed-dose study involving Clonazepam doses of 0.5, 1, 2, 3 or 4 mg/day or placebo. This study was conducted in four phases: a 1 week placebo lead-in, a 3 week upward titration, a 6 week fixed dose and a 7 week discontinuance phase. A significant difference from placebo was observed consistently only for the 1 mg/day group. The difference between the 1 mg dose group and placebo in reduction from baseline in the number of full panic attacks was approximately 1 panic attack per week. At endpoint, 74% of patients receiving Clonazepam 1 mg/day were free of full panic attacks, compared to 56% of placebo-treated patients.

Study 2 was a 6 week, flexible-dose study involving Clonazepam in a dose range of 0.5 to 4 mg/day or placebo. This study was conducted in three phases: a 1 week placebo lead-in, a 6 week optimal-dose and a 6 week discontinuance phase. The mean Clonazepam dose during the optimal dosing period was 2.3 mg/day. The difference between Clonazepam and placebo in reduction from baseline in the number of full panic attacks was approximately 1 panic attack per week. At endpoint, 62% of patients receiving Clonazepam were free of full panic attacks, compared to 37% of placebo-treated patients.

http://www.drugs.com/pro/clonazepam.html
 
Heroin Girl said:
I think it's a panic attack, as well. I just thought .5mg would be a good starting point since the OP can always redose and get effects within fifteen minutes and use whatever dosage works the next time he smokes.

Just my opinion, though. :)

Let us know how it goes, lakkpoll.
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I think it's a panic attack as well, and 1mg would be a good starting point. .5 of any benzo doesn't do fuck all for my panic attacks. Xanax is more for panic attacks while klonopin is long lasting and takes the edge off between xanax doses. 1 mg would be golden.
 
Hello! :)

I would like to thank everyone for the awesome feedback and you are all very kind.

I took 1mg subligually and after 20 - 30 mins i was feeling really relaxed and in a good mood so i decided to try the weed and it was awesome! Probably the best high ive had haha :).

Today im feeling really refreshed and calm.

This is really good combo atleast for me and im gonna be very carefull not too use it too often, but saturday is coming so i probably will use it again then haha :)

Thanks again you are all awesome.
 
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