Chicago Heroin v Hugs not Drugs

[OpiateGuy]

OG I thought for a sec about busting your chops cause 2 weeks ago when i posted you were like "aw it's just business as usual" now you quote it from the web that CPD is on some big crackdown, anyway its all good.
so Mayweather won last night, what'd you think of the fight?
myself, fell asleep during the 2nd half of the Bulls game, missed the win. Took too many k-pins to deal with the sick I felt.

I said "they say they are cracking down".. and it is business as usual and always will be just like I said in my post they might be out for a few weeks but it goes right back to normal. I don't know that its a fact they are really out there any more than they normally are. Spots get sat on and shut down here and there all the time so when someone says "the whole west side is hot" I disagree and think that its still business as usual minus a couple spots. but thats pretty normal. Go ahead and call me out for whatever though man I dont mind.

and as for the fight man I was fucking dissapointed, but not surprised. It was just such a built-up fight and it was so anti-climatic. Mayweather just dominated, but not even in a spectacular fashion.. Hopefully you were able to cop today and get rid of the sickness.

Startin to get high.. only had 6 blows for today.. 2 down, 4 to go.

Edit: Also, Im not looking for an argument with ya so my fault if i came off as hostile.

 

[northsideboy]

Edit: Also, Im not looking for an argument with ya so my fault if i came off as hostile.[/QUOTE]

Naw, not at all. I just thought it was amusing that's all.
I'm putting up with the baby sick for now. It's mainly in my head, although I physically feel like shit, nose, etc., the whole deal. This ain't a habit to speak of, just a lil' kick.
And i could've copped, but man, my wife is sitting on my ass, for good reason, don't get me wrong, wives don't dig this shit with kids and fulltime jobs involved and all that.
We made a deal last week, after she confronted me nodding with my head on the table for the ? day in a row. Next time it's IOP. After that, who knows.
I've got no desire to get divorced, I've got no desire to go to IOP, for that matter. In our current relationship, I've been in and out of this shit for 10 yrs. In my life, since 1988, so (quick math) 25 yrs.
I need to be there for my wife, my kids and myself. I just like to get high, that's all. And that usually leads to a habit, and ....blah, blah, blah.
This relapse has been going on for almost a year in June. So yeah, maybe time to clean up a bit.

No offense meant, but you kids out there got a different perspective. This shit will fuck up your life forever. Even when you quit and get clean.

And I'm not looking for an argument either, that's not particularly aimed at you. Anyone with years in the game will tell you the same thing.

Enough preaching, already. I'll shut up.

I heard the fight was one-sided. I wish I stayed awake to watch the Bulls win. I was giving a friend in Bklyn shit over text.

Anyways, don't get caught up out there. Be safe.

 

[OpiateGuy]

Yeah, I know its gotta be a lot different maintaining a dope habit when you're actually responsible for other human beings.. That's a lot different than being 22 and in college and having a habit. Good luck with it.

And something awesome just happened, I woke up from a nod, positive I had done all my dope and I was awake now and the high was fading and I really wanted some more.. well, I felt my bag that had my blows in it and I was wrong, I still have 2 left. That was cool, going from AH FUCK IM FIENDING to, hell yeah I have 2 more blows.

Killing these 2 blows now.

 

[northsideboy]

Shit, dog, like Roberta Flack said "killing me softly with his song..."
I'm jealous dude. And I know better, but I'm jealous.

Why can't I just get high? And a million other questions......

Enjoy it while it lasts.

 

[northsideboy]

Plus I totally got called out by my AA sponsor earlier. Yes, I have an AA sponsor. I've been trying to stay clean for 10 yrs, with varied results. I've met some of the best people I know in the program.

But dude is in his 50's, 30+ felonies from possession to shoplifting to support his habit to robbing a post office (yes, federal time, he liked the fed better than CC, go figure, CC is a shithole). Anyway, he told me I was a pussy, I'm not sick, I'm just a little baby drama queen, and either get real and go off the deep end, or quit while I have a life. Try living in my car, or boarded up houses with a 10+ bag a day habit. Until that doesn't work anymore. No thanks. I just want to get a little high sometimes, and enjoy the benefits of my life.

Makes one think. While my little baby nose runs. Good times, y'all!

 

[OpiateGuy]

Fuck the "Ive had it rougher than you" type people. I've come off big habits before in the past and had horribly excruciating withdrawals.. and Ive also come off small habits.. withdrawals suck regardless of the magnitude.. so fuck that guy.

Also, try taking 20-30mg of loperamide (immodium).. it works wonders man, you will feel totally fine and even satisfies cravings to a certain extent. You can go to costco or sams club and buy 200 count bottles of the 2mg loperamide pills for like $8-$10/bottle. Ive got like 3 of them that I've had for a few years (bought em when I was forced to stay in my house and withdrawal by my parents while we were waiting for a suboxone doctor to see me, this was at least 2 years go).. But I finally got around to trying to ease WD with it a few days ago and it really does work. Stops that horribly annoying constantly running nose/watering eyes. Those are annoying 24/7, but especially when youre trying to sleep too.

Anways, yeah, if you're trying to take a break but dont want pain, take the immodium.

 

[northsideboy]

Naw, it ain't like that. I love the guy, for real. He just wears his heart on his sleeve and you know what, he's right for the most part. As are you - withdrawal sucks regardless, but shit, I'm almost 45, I know what I'm doing and what to expect. So I feel like shit for a few days, a week, and what? Take it like a man. Play with fire, get burned. I just didn't think I was complaining that much. I like the fire, I should expect the pain, or learn to just go along for the ride.
Anyways, it's way past time for me to grow up. And time to go to sleep.

 

[chefman]

You know what you need to do Northside,i agree you should be able to get high once in a while as long as you.are keeping a.handle on it,but try to explain that to you wife and kids. Me I luve alone and do whatever I feel like,probally why im single,but when I hook up for giid they are gonna accept me the way I am or no deal. Good luck man,you will be aright.

 

[cicerogrinds]

getting high once in a while just never seems to work out for me

 

[northsideboy]

Good advice, good advice, all. Yep.

 

[chinky]

Plus I totally got called out by my AA sponsor earlier. Yes, I have an AA sponsor. I've been trying to stay clean for 10 yrs, with varied results. I've met some of the best people I know in the program.

But dude is in his 50's, 30+ felonies from possession to shoplifting to support his habit to robbing a post office (yes, federal time, he liked the fed better than CC, go figure, CC is a shithole). Anyway, he told me I was a pussy, I'm not sick, I'm just a little baby drama queen, and either get real and go off the deep end, or quit while I have a life. Try living in my car, or boarded up houses with a 10+ bag a day habit. Until that doesn't work anymore. No thanks. I just want to get a little high sometimes, and enjoy the benefits of my life.

Makes one think. While my little baby nose runs. Good times, y'all!

fedtime is way better then fuckin CC or just state prison..federal is like a country club compared to those other places..the amentities and the food are like night and day compared to state prison..the only problems is generally the feds have a 100% conviction rate and thats because they arent handing out 5year sentences, when you see the feds youre facing 15yrs+ generally, so everyone pleads out. what else is shitty is that the feds dont give you good time (time and a half) like everyone else..i think fedtimw you have to do 80-100% of what youre convicted of. so if they give you 10years your gonna do at least 8 but im pretty sure its all 10, unlike state charges when you only would do 5 at the most before getting parloed..also shitty is they can send you anywhere in the country they want unlike state charges wher obviously your only gonna be as far away as how big the state is..so you could bve from florida but they send you to a state prison in oregon, not being close so youre family can visit could be tough


and northside..if youre able to hold your job and keep mone8y in the bank and your family fed, clothed, and sheltered and your kid dont see you getting hig hcause you do it when they go to bed, i dont see anything wrong with what it is your doing and i omly hope i can keeep my use in check like you have. now if your living paycheck to pAYCHECK even with your wife working and the bills arent getting paid ontime, and oyiur kids catch you obviously nodding and not just 'being tired" well then you should check what it is youre doing..now youre wife is a completly different situation. if shes not cool with you getting high and your need to hide it from her then well i cant see nothing good coming from it..youre not gonna win anywaty you look at it, so with that being said you gotta askj yourself whats more important, your family or gettin high a couple times a week. maybe you should try just regulating how you use..like when i dont get high for a few days, i generally will use but just enough to get the sick off and make the cravings go away

i can take a half gram of raw and stretch it out for 3days with out getting high at all but also not feeling sick at all..generanlly ill smoke it a little bit a few times a day instead of just taking bumps cause when smoking it, you can actually "use" more often then you would just railing lines. for exaple for everyoine line i might bumpo i can make 3 foils off of it and smoke 1 foil every hour or 2 or whenever i feel like it..just take the bump, it would be the one bumo and then thats it until the next bump and so everytime you might want to take a bump, you take a fat rip off the foil instead and for me at least it works much better and i make my product last alot longer...when i do these little breaks i generally will take a few rips before bed so i wonbt wake up in the mornng shaking and feeling like shit and i find when i can wake up not feeling sick, i can last alot longer into the day before needing to use, otherwise when i wake up sick, i feel it and cant even go back to sleep cause ill go from freezing to hot depending if i pull the blanket on and just over all irritated really and generally will smoke a bowl to try and go back to bed. otherwise ill sit there curled in a ball trying so hard to fall back asleepo that i never do

*team nod assemble*

 

[smokemctoke420]

and also, im sure having a federal charge on your record would be worse to anyone who wants to hire you or whatever and has to do a background check on you but im sure either way convictions dont work good with employers but im sure federal time looks a little worse. just my opinion.

*team nod assemble*

 

[chinky]

ehh i dont think it really matters, its all felony convictions right?, i dont think they catagorize it into federal felonies and states charges, its just felony convictions period.

and also i think it prolly would be better with a fed charge on youyr record then just some state charge..with a fed charge maybe you could convice them that whatever it isyou did was something that wasnt petty, embezzled millions, or just somesort of consipiracy charge, you know the ones wher they neve caught you with drugs and no one snitched on you, so they hit you with RICO and tax fraud and conspiracy to commit whatever..you know basiucally they knowwhat youre doing but cant prove it, so they hit you with those bullshit charges. on the state level that shit would get thrown out at pretrial even with just a public defender but on the fed level youre fucked and they give you 8-12

 

[smokemctoke420]

yeah, i guess your right chink. from my view fed charges just seem worse cuz you usually serve more time and reall yjust the word federal makes it sound bad lol but yeah if its like tax bullshit or money bullshit then i guess you might be alright cuz a felony is a felony, right? lol

but if its for stealing alot of monery or something that ends up becoming federal, then not to many people are gonna want to hire you

 

[BlueHues]

Not ALL federal prisons are country clubs! There's some that are particularly notorious for being "country clubs"! But, those are generally minimum security....a lot of the rich "white collar criminals" and corrupt politicians request being sent there as part of their plea, but ....There's some bad dudes doin Fed Time, make no mistake!

The other thing about federal sentences, in addition to all the mandatory minimum laws, you have to do %85 percent of your sentence to be eligible for parole....You're doin 4+ years on 5 and at least 8 years on a 10 year sentence! In some states, you're eligible for parole after 1/3 of the time....or if you get "4-9 years" you're eligible after the 4....In most places, if you don't fuck up in prison and you're not there for a violent crime, it's pretty common to get parole after completing around half of your sentence....

I know someone, in my home state who got sentenced to 20 years....18 months to serve, 18 1/2 half years suspended and probation....He got out after 15 months but now he's only about 8 years through the suspended/probation! Which means, they can pull you in for a urine anytime! and if you get caught doing anything again, they'll violate you and make you serve a portion of the suspended sentence!

I've known people who got caught for possession charges that were offered 6 months to serve with 5 probation/suspended or 1 year straight time with no suspended or probation.....It's almost worth it to take more time to serve in some cases because it's hard to stay out of trouble for a lot of years, particularly if you use heroin! I finished 5 1/2 years probation/suspended without getting in trouble myself.....that was a miracle!

 

[HighonLife]

god i hope chicago beats miami

 

[Tommyboy]

when i do these little breaks i generally will take a few rips before bed so i wonbt wake up in the mornng shaking and feeling like shit and i find when i can wake up not feeling sick, i can last alot longer into the day before needing to use, otherwise when i wake up sick, i feel it and cant even go back to sleep cause ill go from freezing to hot depending if i pull the blanket on and just over all irritated really and generally will smoke a bowl to try and go back to bed.

Yea the hot and cold flashes are a bitch while kicking since you can never get comfortable. The only thing that works for me is taking a hot shower, but then I am freezing the second I turn the water off.

 

[northsideboy]

god i hope chicago beats miami

HOL, god must be on our side tonight. Nothing better than watching LeBaby lose. That was niiiiiice.

And thanks everyone for the comments above.

Chinky, I feel ya, I think the wife is the issue I have to deal with. Not like I wanna choose between the two.

 

[chinky]

^^^^of course the wife and kjids come first..like i said maybe try using enough to cure the craving but not enough to get high and nod out on her..or do yall go to bed together? if not maybe waiting for her to sleep and so e0\if she wakes up and finds you nodded out she might think you were just sleeping..

also does she use this computer? if so i hope she doesnt check the history, thats a reason why i make sure my history gets deleted when i close the browser and i alwasy sign out so if someone else comes by and ses the site they wont see my uasername

Not ALL federal prisons are country clubs! There's some that are particularly notorious for being "country clubs"! But, those are generally minimum security....a lot of the rich "white collar criminals" and corrupt politicians request being sent there as part of their plea, but ....There's some bad dudes doin Fed Time, make no mistake!

The other thing about federal sentences, in addition to all the mandatory minimum laws, you have to do %85 percent of your sentence to be eligible for parole....You're doin 4+ years on 5 and at least 8 years on a 10 year sentence! In some states, you're eligible for parole after 1/3 of the time....or if you get "4-9 years" you're eligible after the 4....In most places, if you don't fuck up in prison and you're not there for a violent crime, it's pretty common to get parole after completing around half of your sentence....

I know someone, in my home state who got sentenced to 20 years....18 months to serve, 18 1/2 half years suspended and probation....He got out after 15 months but now he's only about 8 years through the suspended/probation! Which means, they can pull you in for a urine anytime! and if you get caught doing anything again, they'll violate you and make you serve a portion of the suspended sentence!

I've known people who got caught for possession charges that were offered 6 months to serve with 5 probation/suspended or 1 year straight time with no suspended or probation.....It's almost worth it to take more time to serve in some cases because it's hard to stay out of trouble for a lot of years, particularly if you use heroin! I finished 5 1/2 years probation/suspended without getting in trouble myself.....that was a miracle!

thats what i thought..i knew with fedtime you had to do most of your sentence if not all of it..and looking back i might have took a 30 or 60, 90 day sentene in county or whatever and be done with the system then the 2years of probation ive been on. cause like you said still using drugs while on probation is like walking a tight rope, i just got lucky having a cool PO who gave me a months advance notice before dropping me, so i knew it was coming and had time to clean up. but now i should have been done with probation back in january but cause i still own money(my POs fault) im still on probation and so anything i do i could get violated even though i technically should be done with it..so now any arrest no mattrer how dumb it could be could violate my probation. like i said instead of the 2years i wouldf have rather done 3montsh in county and walked out free and clear with no probation fees and shit

god i hope chicago beats miami

*sigh* read my post in the other dope thread for my comment on that

EDIT TO MAKE IT EASY....

wow only my dumb ass can miss the last 10minutes of the bulls game by typing this post and watching antiques roadshow...fuckin PBS and their no commercials, its the best thing cause there is no commercials but i cant tell you how many times ive missed what i wanted to watchcause i flipped to something on PBS and forgot to flip back cause there was no commercial...`100s of tv shows over the years

IMO PBS is the best network cause everythign thats on it for the most part is actually very interesting is you have some sort in intelligence. no matter if its charlie rose (best interviewer in the world IMO), to cooking shows, to nature shows, or NOVA, POV, check please, antiques roadshow and i can name so many other shows and all with no commercials..best way to kill the day is to find chciago history programs by geoffery baer and learning everything you need to about the city and the surrounding suburbs

and tommy i never saw that movie, any good? was he WDing from dope in that scene?

 

[HighonLife]

HOL, god must be on our side tonight. Nothing better than watching LeBaby lose. That was niiiiiice.

THIS

im not even gonna pretend to be a bulls fan just cuz im in the chicago heroin thread, i mean i was like every other red blooded american kid growin up in the 90s i idolized micheal jordan n rooted for them all the time, but i wasnt a bulls fan so much as an MJ fan, i just figured there'd be some people around who were also watchin the game

honestly i hope okc or brooklyn wins it but i dont even see brooklyn makin to the finals so we'll see