Chemist died synthesizing own psychedelics, Police Differ

If you're a professional chemist, no matter what you're synthesizing, you always do it in a lab that is remote from people who are not aware of the dangers. Things go wrong in chemistry, some wronger than others. While he couldn't exactly easily use a remote lab, he could have done it in a location without others around. I do, however, feel sorry for the guy.
 
bineon said:
If you're a professional chemist, no matter what you're synthesizing, you always do it in a lab that is remote from people who are not aware of the dangers. Things go wrong in chemistry, some wronger than others. While he couldn't exactly easily use a remote lab, he could have done it in a location without others around. I do, however, feel sorry for the guy.
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You know many chemists? I know many chemists who are very professional in their activities who have done work close to where others live.

Consider the placement of labs in major metropolitan areas. Not exactly remote.
 
The fact that the government forces chemists like this to hide any traces of their chemistry hobby from strangers makes it nigh on impossible for most people who should be able to practice psychedelic chemistry to do so away from other peoples' homes.
 
Well, I have a very deep respect for psychedelic chemists, but if someone started cooking shit anywhere near my toddler - I'd kill a motherfucker. In my opinion, the dumbass deserved to die...
 
you don't know what you're talking about. This is nothing at all like cooking meth.

He was well equipped, and put no one at risk (I got a little from the police department when I called today, and my original suspicion was confirmed, it was purely precautionary, the standard response for any potential HazMat, which this wasn't)
 
Hey there, I knew the guy quite well, worked together for a few years at UBC. He was a funny, charming, intellegent, good guy. However, as I now see, there were obviously alot of issues underneath. I understand how people could say he's horrible, when they don't know him. remember though that most people who turn to crime or drugs etc., are suffering from internalised wounds of the self, damage from childhood, etc. I was so shocked to hear about him, and sorry too. Yes he probably did put the other apartment dwellers in danger and that's not to be condoned but again goes to show the depth of what was probably despair or emptiness he felt.
We can condemn out of hate and anger and never point the fingers at ourselves ('let he who is without sin throw the first stone'). We've all mucked up (although I'm sure most not so badly as this but!).
 
And before people posthumously insult the guy for being a shit chemist, accidents happen to the best, people with letters after their name aren't immune from tragic accidents.

Just remember that professor in dartmoor uni, she spilled a drop of Me2Hg, and it went through the gloves she was wearing, and killed her several months later.
 
bineon said:
If you're a professional chemist, no matter what you're synthesizing, you always do it in a lab that is remote from people who are not aware of the dangers. Things go wrong in chemistry, some wronger than others. While he couldn't exactly easily use a remote lab, he could have done it in a location without others around. I do, however, feel sorry for the guy.
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Or in an environment designed for chemistry. Law enforcment/EPA/etc do not have complete knowledge of what is occurring in a lab and need to be sure that proper precautions are in place and an entire neighborhood isn't exposed to something potentially harmful.

When peoples lives are at stake you need to use caution. If you lived in that area I'm sure you wouldn't want your children walking past a house/room that was filled with argon.
 
When peoples lives are at stake you need to use caution. If you lived in that area I'm sure you wouldn't want your children walking past a house/room that was filled with argon.
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Why not? Argon is nontoxic, and only poses a threat in enclosed areas, due to the risk of asphyxiation.
 
If he's a professional chemist he wouldnt have been stupid enough to constantly expose himself to fumes. He should already know the affects of long term exposure to chemical fumes.
 
1. The cause of death was just speculation, though indeed possible (sorta doubt it was argon)
2. Less than nothing to suggest that it was constant.
 
IMO professional doesn't need to be equal to 'has been to uni and got letters after his name'

For some people, making drugs can be a profession, somebody has to do it, and some, take the time to do it well, THOSE are professional chemists IMO.

Like the good men and women who supply you and the rest of the world with high quality acid, a synthesis which is no picnic by any stretches of the imagination, and needing most delicate handling.

Somebody self taught, doing high class, quality work, IMO, for profit, is by definition, a professional chemist.

As opposed to a professional cook.

It ain't all 'grind up yer sudafed cletus, and chuck it in some annie and Li at gas mark 6, baste in the juices, add salt and pepper, then serve to the presidential fucking banquet ya know=D

May this one RIP.
 
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