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Pharmacology ChatGPT convinces man to substitute sodium bromide for table salt in his diet

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notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
"""""""""""I have been told that right now all of these 'free' chatbots are costing their developers vast amounts of cash. Now I see it just as a search engine that accepts natural language, but nothing more. I have a suspicion that they will not remain free. We are merely beta (or maybe even alpha) testing it. In future, I CAN imagine AIs designed to help students in specific fields will be costly so it won't be the clever student but the rich student who has the advantage - underminding the value of any qualification(s) gained. Employer WILL see people with apparently amazing academic achievement and quickly figure out that it's just bits of paper. """"""

------Someone wise ( I think it was here, may have even been you ) once said something that stuck with me --- "If a product is free - YOU ARE THE PRODUCT" --- my thoughts is they need a giant pool of people interacting with the damn thing to 'teach' it how to respond properly. I.E We are the (Beta?) test.

Than surely once we come to rely on it -- it provides an edge you can't go without (In certain fields) and you will be bent over a barrel in an "Either I pay for this or get left behind for not having the standard tool set to complete the job"

You already see it at colleges and HS's --- You would be kind of foolish not to be using A.I -- the 4.0 ain't good enough you need extra padding (and pretty impressive padding) -- only so much time in a day. You either at home writing a paper or out getting those sweet sweet brownie points from the community. (I ignored those brownie points and learned real quick they woulda got me further than grades)
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is a mathematician any less accomplished if they use a calculator?
 
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
------Someone wise ( I think it was here, may have even been you ) once said something that stuck with me --- "If a product is free - YOU ARE THE PRODUCT" --- my thoughts is they need a giant pool of people interacting with the damn thing to 'teach' it how to respond properly. I.E We are the (Beta?) test.
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I did use that quote a couple of times. But it was Marchall McLuhan in the 1950s who foresaw what even how book publication was within the budget of many so easily within the budget of bad actors. FREE digital media has just lowered the price to zero and EVERYONE can publish.


Read it.

I've also been told by more than one person in the position to know that for students hoping to join the 'direct measures unit' of the KGB, McLuhan is REQUIRED READING.

Have you SEEN the high-rise office building next to the river in St. Petersburg. Yep - they OWN the entire thing and so not sublet. So there are anywhere from thousands to tens of thousands of them whose job it is to use media to feel multiple narrative. Don't forget - the goal isn't that you don't trust one media outlet... the goal is you trust NONE. THAT I suggest is an act of war. We SHOULD consider that Russia is waging war on us and if we respond with kintetic measures, so be it.
 
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
Required reading for the KGB -- you got me by appealing to my sense of wanting to know as much as possible as a tactician. Will do.
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I wouldn't tell you to read a book if I wasn't pretty damned sure you WILL see it.

How the digital domain is just another theatre of combat and yet nobody seems to even accept it's going on. Even when Iran's own DMU was knocked off-line for three days and on return, over 500 Twitter accounts (fairly consistantly discussing divisive issued) deleted ALL of their old posts and ALL went on to give the Iranian side of current event. We actually SAW THIS! And that's just Iran where the UK isn't, I imagine, a particularly important target. So how many is Russia using against the US?

If you can, acquire a copy of Cyabra - it will show you where a 'fact' or 'story' first emerged. It's quite interesting with three phases, Seeding, harvesting and amplification.
 
I appreciate it man! I live by the old classics Machiavelli 'the prince' 'the art of war' (Which I totally understand all of...) -- you can tell I am a trusting optimist by that statement I am sure.

There are other books I've read I swear lol --- none that I reference as often in real life though.
 
someguyontheinternet said:
is a mathematician any less accomplished if they use a calculator?
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If one mathematician can solve an equation without a calculator and the other one needs a calculator to solve the same equation -- yes the guy that needs the calculator has less math skill?

Do you think if the guy who uses the calculator gets it done faster that he is the better mathematician?

( I understand they all use calculators but the point remains; if you can do the same thing with no tools and equally as well... yes you are better at it)
 
I went to school with a mathamatical prodigy and I wouldn't say his ability to perform arithmetic was special. It was his ability to see much more subtle and complex fields. Fields where ironically computers have almost no utility.

He went to Cambridge for first degree then post-grad... then just went MIA for 25 years. Then pops up on Facebook and won't say where he was for all that time. So I just asked how his GCHQ career went. He blocked me and I know enough to know he wouldn't do that out of pique. Clearly he was never allowed to say what he ACTUALLY did.

But fair play - he absolutely would have been a perfect fit for them. A grammer school boy made good, extremly carm and well adjusted and stable as a rock.

I look back and wonder why he put up with me. I now GUESS it was because I have a natural affinity for low-level programming (we both had C64s) so each week I would go around and show him something new and he had a week to figure out HOW I had done it. I think he wanted to understand my mind - but anyone who knows me knows that's a lost cause.
 
Quasimoto said:
a court case where AI is implicated in murder or something.
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wondering how that will look.
tryptakid said:
The medium is free and accessible, and such the message is to displace individuals by rendering them incompetent without charging them a dime for the privilege
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the medium is not free as demonstrated by your own follow up.
dont get me started on ai. the evidence anti is insurmountable.
jumping from a cliff into an abyss of our own creation.
no 'shoot ffs
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oh yeah sorry i did have something to add that was/is ot:
that Br in your periodic table looks very much like the one in my benzo. 😏
anyway i think i had bromism before i started iirc.
informative.
made me go down the rabbit hole. 😂
peace
 
If I want to find a link to a study quickly I type a few of the words in its title along with the surnames of one or two of the researchers. One of the researchers in a study I needed had the name, Butts … this is what Google presented me with:

"Circulate magnesium butts" refers to using magnesium supplements (like citrate or oxide) as a powerful laxative to clear out the bowels, often causing strong, watery, even "fiery" bowel movements due to water being pulled into the intestines …
 
A teen died of a drug overdose after consulting ChatGPT. Now his family are suing OpenAI.

 
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