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BK38 said:
@Coffeeshroom

I have a question for ya. My pot plants are growing but they have stretched and one is having trouble supporting it's own weight with the new leaf growth. I know that's a sign of stress and that it was because they didn't get enough light (was way more overcast than was predicted, though it's getting sunnier now). I'm supporting with wooden sticks for now, but I read online that I can gently dig them out, then make a deeper hole in the pot and bury it so that the stretched stem will be better supported and will eventually grow roots from it. It's an autoflower, so it's not really recommended to repot, but desperate times call for desperate measures. What do you reckon?
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Sho brotha you have me on the spot here. i have personally only grown a few auto's and it was indoor. But as for the plant not supporting itself, i would rather put up support poles or pegs or what not then try and replant so to speak as auto are very finicky, so personally i wouldnt do the repotting idea unless you have more plants and this can be an experimental plant so to speak. But i would go with trying to support the branches. Also be careful sticking the supporting poles in the pot as you dont want to break off main roots in the pot as you insert them. What size pot did you go for your auto's
 
Coffeeshroom said:
Sho brotha you have me on the spot here. i have personally only grown a few auto's and it was indoor. But as for the plant not supporting itself, i would rather put up support poles or pegs or what not then try and replant so to speak as auto are very finicky, so personally i wouldnt do the repotting idea unless you have more plants and this can be an experimental plant so to speak. But i would go with trying to support the branches. Also be careful sticking the supporting poles in the pot as you dont want to break off main roots in the pot as you insert them. What size pot did you go for your auto's
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I always just mulch up higher on the stem w sand/ verm. As long as its fluffy mix, wont hurt. And will minimize moisture loss
 
Coffeeshroom said:
Sho brotha you have me on the spot here. i have personally only grown a few auto's and it was indoor. But as for the plant not supporting itself, i would rather put up support poles or pegs or what not then try and replant so to speak as auto are very finicky, so personally i wouldnt do the repotting idea unless you have more plants and this can be an experimental plant so to speak. But i would go with trying to support the branches. Also be careful sticking the supporting poles in the pot as you dont want to break off main roots in the pot as you insert them. What size pot did you go for your auto's
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18L pots, so they're quite big. I'm afraid I've only got 2 plants though, so not sure I want to risk it in an experiment. I've been quite careful about not hurting the root system with the sticks, so that should be okay I think. One is already falling over without the stick support, so I worry I'm not going to get more veg without it tipping over and strengthening somehow.
 
BK38 said:
18L pots, so they're quite big. I'm afraid I've only got 2 plants though, so not sure I want to risk it in an experiment. I've been quite careful about not hurting the root system with the sticks, so that should be okay I think. One is already falling over without the stick support, so I worry I'm not going to get more veg without it tipping over and strengthening somehow.
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Are the leafs looking droopy too? Is it the top part that's hanging over? cause that can also be too much watering too. How are the pots drainage. Did you put pebble or stones at the bottom with a mesh screen? And what medium or mix of potting medium did you go with?
 
also here is something interesting and maybe helpfull @BK38

Regular cannabis strains have a great rules determining the pot size and they are – you should get a gallon (3,7 liters) of growing medium volume for each month that the plant will be alive or you could just anticipate how big your plant will become and get a gallon for each foot (30,4 cm) of growth. So if your plant will grow 5 months you need a 5 gallon (18,5 liter) pot.


With auto flowering plants it’s not that easy to chose the pot size because you need to think not only about the time how long will your plant live, but you need to also think about the size of the plant and how big you want it to get.


Most people choose auto-flowering strains because their growing space is limited and they can’t grow plants that stretch 1 or 2 meters (3,2 or 6,5 feet) in height and pot size can greatly affect the plants height. If you plant your autoflower cannabis seed in a small container like a “Dixie cup” then it will stay short because it will become pot bound (root bound) fast and that will stress the plant slowing down the growth.


Usually autoflower marijuana plants don’t grow more than 18 inches (45cm) in height and they usually are ready to harvest in less than two months. If we know these numbers then we can calculate that the perfect pot size for auto flower plants should be 1,5 to 2,5 gallons (5,6 to 9,4 liters).
 
Coffeeshroom said:
Are the leafs looking droopy too? Is it the top part that's hanging over? cause that can also be too much watering too. How are the pots drainage. Did you put pebble or stones at the bottom with a mesh screen? And what medium or mix of potting medium did you go with?
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The leafs are not droopy and I've been careful not to over water, they look healthy, but the stem is just stretched. There's still plenty of new leaf growth happening for now. Yes, it is the top part that is sending it off balance. Basically it stretched when it wasn't getting enough sun. Now that the sun is more or less back, it has started producing leaves more rapidly and the stem is not thick enough to support it.

I went with an organic acidic soil, mixed with vermiculite and perlite at the bottom for drainage.


Edit: Hmmm, maybe you're right about it being too big a pot. Dang, not sure I should transfer given the autoflower's nature.
 
@BK38 Well all sounds good to me and i agree thinking that the plant stretched for more sun or light. if you can, move the pot plant to a place where it can get sun 360 degrees of the day and see if that helps. but otherwise i would just try and support the top with another pole. If you can, put the supporting pole on the opposite of the way the top is leaning. Then tie a rope to the top part of the plant and gently pull back on it to start straitening it up with the support of the pole on the opposite side, hope this makes sense
 
i had a similar problem during flowering where i actually had to support most branches from my swazi plants as the heads/colas got to heavy for the branches to support and they where thick brances too
 
Coffeeshroom said:
@BK38 Well all sounds good to me and i agree thinking that the plant stretched for more sun or light. if you can, move the pot plant to a place where it can get sun 360 degrees of the day and see if that helps. but otherwise i would just try and support the top with another pole. If you can, put the supporting pole on the opposite of the way the top is leaning. Then tie a rope to the top part of the plant and gently pull back on it to start straitening it up with the support of the pole on the opposite side, hope this makes sense
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Make sense to me. Thanks for your help! If I get literally an 8th out of this experiment of decent bud, it will be alright. First time growing, so bound to encounter some problems. Thanks again.
 
Yeah growing is a learning exp but a fun one. especially when it gets to harvesting and you see the returns on your investment of time/care and .. money. BUt the latter is bleh.
 
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