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Chaos Magic - Diving in to the Esoteric

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I apologize for the seemingly silly esoteric subject matter; if all in all this amounts to rambling, you can probably guess why ;) hope its at least interesting for a glance over

Becoming aware of what I'm just going to refer to as "chaos magic" has to start with questioning the nature of existence - and what is beyond our existence, or thinking of the metaphysical.

Now, the fun part begins when you start to play around with a simple fact: anything metaphysical is, by its nature, unobservable - and therefore, we can have no way of knowing of its existence. As in quantum physics, anything outside the realm of observability exists in a wave of probability -- all possible scenarios exist simultaneously in juxtaposition, until they are observed and the wave function collapses into one possibility.

Therefore, if we entertain ourselves just for this topic by viewing mere speculation as plausible, it could be that all metaphysical scenarios exist simultaneously. Not just God, gods, goddesses, spirits, heaven, Hell, etc., but even more abstract metaphysical concepts. The collective metaphysical possibilities form a lump of chaos so dense with possibility that it shouldn't be conceptualized visually as a tree, but rather as an essence - this essence being a small part of a greater primordial chaos.

Now, venturing into the dark and esoteric, can we use our awareness of this chaotic metaphysical essence to manipulate reality? I propose the answer is, we just might, but under certain limitations:

- the manipulation can not contradict the physical; it can not violate physical laws, since these laws are not settings of reality with a given value, but actually innate to the backbone of existence, as innate as things like geometry (up, down, left, right) or causality.

- the manipulation must not contradict the metaphysical; any manipulation with an outcome that could only be explained by the existence of the metaphysical, or if the existence of the metaphysical could be deduced from its outcome, can not occur, as it would turn the metaphysical physical, disallowing the manipulation from happening in the first place. Therefore, manipulation would have to coincide with chance/coincidence, randomness, or the more appropriate term chaos.

- an element of chaos must be present in whatever system is being manipulated

Now, those are the limitations, but there are also certain things to consider that might be important:

- after too much manipulation, an individual will eventually become solipsistic; in other words, "stuck in their own existence". Harnessing the essence of metaphysical chaos, if done successfully, is unlike anything the mind has experienced previously, and will have a dramatic effect on the mind. It will start to shift the mind of the individual away from things like "God" or "heaven", and instead they focus on themselves as being the spiritual center of everything, simply due to association - they think about it more, so it stays fresh on their mind, and eventually becomes belief.

Therefore, an individual seeking manipulation who also holds previous metaphysical beliefs (and even if they think they don't, they may have ones they still hold subconsciously, from childhood and the like) should be well warned that chaotic manipulation will tarnish, corrode, and eventually damage the previous metaphysical beliefs. These precious gems from childhood placed within our unconsciousness should be treasured - if our brain is storing a "soul" for us for whatever purpose, those gems are likely it. "Chaos magic" will start to disintegrate this "soul", and the deeper into it one ventures, the more that will be lost and the more difficult it will be to turn back. Anything more than a "dabbling out of curiosity" could be detrimental to the individual if they value things like culture or heritage (which, even if you think you have neither, you will still miss it terribly once its gone).

Now, after being well-informed of the consequences (and if you aren't, stop reading, and go back a paragraph) these are key points to manipulation:

- The most susceptible things to manipulation are chaotic systems. Chaotic systems (such as the weather, for an example) are susceptible to manipulation for many reasons, but generally because they do not violate any of the principles mentioned earlier; chaotic systems produce sporadic outcomes to begin with, and therefore successful manipulation can use the veil of 'sporadic anomaly' as a medium for manifestation, so manipulation in this manner does not contradict the physical or metaphysical. Chaotic systems can also have varying output without contradicting causality, and therefore offer a point of entry for metaphysical manipulation. As an example of manipulating a chaotic system, say an individual tries to synchronize the movement of shadow cast by a branch blowing in the wind with the movement of their hand: this can be done, because it does not contradict reality. If a person were trying to make a basketball spontaneously turn inside out while retaining all the air inside, they'd end up wasting their time - because first of all, it contradicts causality, what chain of events could possibly cause the particles of a basketball to invert themselves whilst retaining the air inside? There are none. Now, understanding why that scenario is impossible will help us understand why other scenarios depicted as "magic" in pop culture are impossible, such as levitation, teleportation, etc.. if it can't follow causality and couldn't have happened naturally at random, then it can't be done. [Footnote 1]

- Whether or not manipulation is performed successfully depends on subconscious expectations or "belief". Things like "willpower" and "confidence" do seem to play a role in determining success, but success is not dependent on those things - the key to successful manipulation is entirely dependent on an individual's expectations of reality. The very existence of the metaphysical chaotic element may indirectly imply other existential mechanisms at work, one such mechanism perhaps being that physical reality itself is always being carved out by subconscious expectations as it progresses onward into the future. It may even be that the collective human unconsciousness (and perhaps even to a lesser extent the collective unconscious of animal life as well) is what is carving out the future of physical reality, through subconscious expectations -- if this is the case, then all forms of consciousness work together to slowly make contributions to the shaping of existence (albeit unconsciously), and each individual is already practicing "chaos magic", just at a more gradual pace. If that is true, then dare I say I am trespassing upon sacred knowledge, and I am actually debating whether or not it is even appropriate for me to spread it in the manner I currently am. However, all of this could still be fantastical speculation, which if it is, it is still interesting to think about (for me, anyways). A part of me also thinks that if such knowledge were detrimental to us, something would happen out of coincidence preventing me from sharing it (Isaac Newton's essays on the esoteric were lost due to his dog knocking a candle over and setting them on fire, a strange 'coincidence' especially when we are speculating whether existence will protect itself from possibly dangerous subject matter); either that or it would not be dwelt upon long enough by those reading to be fully realized.

- synchronicity and rhythm are essential to successful manipulation; since your mind's subconscious expectations are the main factor determining the outcome of success, this invariably forces us to consider the mechanics behind subconscious expectations, and there we find that everything leading up to our current subconscious expectations had to be formed out of a lifetime of experience - or dare I say, out of "fate". It would then seem that metaphysical manipulation could only be performed by those who have discovered it on their own, if fate had lead them to it, and their subconscious expectations were already prepared for it's use. However, "fate" itself might be just another one of the possibilities making up the essence of metaphysical chaos! And when our mind shifts to a state where the conditions are right, an act of fate occurs (on a side-note, this is amazing to me. When I'm in the state I'm currently in, my mind thrives on this sort of philosophical contemplation and self-discovery). This would mean that the responsible use of manipulation is inherently required for its use, since you can only manipulate things in a way that will coincide with long-held personal beliefs and expectations, and I am under the impression that, unconsciously, everyone knows they are entirely dependent on society and morality - without them, we probably wouldn't survive, and even if we did, we would never have turned out to be the same person we are today.

- manipulation that becomes regrettable will have effectively transmutated pieces of an individual's 'soul' into metaphysical momentum/change. If the structure of the soul 'cracks', it will be more difficult to return to the point of stability and focus needed to conduct manipulation.

- Kabbalah (the Hebrew religious study of how God Himself thinks and operates, the somewhat secretive study of the "God head") inadvertently ventures into similar modes of thought and contemplation that occur with the manipulation of metaphysical chaotic essence; it can be useful for orientating the mind into the stable focused state that has to be attained before manipulation can take place.

- Since subconscious expectations are what determines success, active manipulation requires, to some extent, control over those subconscious expectations. This, however, is difficult - as subconscious material is, by its nature, not conscious, and even when it is, it is not necessarily within our control. And even when it is within our control, that control is very very limited. At most, our consciousness is usually only ever aware of subconscious expectations as an "aura" or "spectrum of mental qualia" in the back of our mind. To align subconscious expectations to what is required for manipulation, we must look for states of mind when our unconsciousness is most vulnerable to power of suggestion. [Footnote 2]

- Understanding the physical mechanics of what is being manipulated and how it relates to the metaphysical is essential for actively manipulating something. Looking back at the example of manipulation mentioned earlier (synchronizing a tree branch's shadow with the movement of the hand), having a thorough understanding of the physical systems involved, how they relate to one another, and how they relate to metaphysical chaos are key to whether manipulation is successful or not. The understanding of the systems involved has to be deep enough such that the mind is able to incorporate that knowledge into its projection of reality, and hence its subconscious expectations. In that specific example, a conscious awareness of the branch is being moved by the wind; the wind being caused by particles in the air fluctuating in location due to pressure and thermodynamics, pushing each other and transferring momentum to each other, forming 'currents' of moment that we observe as the phenomenon of wind; how the shadow was cast on the ground by light from the sun; how the light from the sun consists of photons at certain wavelengths, the photons originating from the tremendous amount of energy created by nuclear fusion occurring inside the sun; the nuclear fusion being the process of protons being pushed together into a single nuclei forming heavier elements due to the sun's gravity; the phenomenon of gravity occurring due to particles with mass bending space and time, such that particles travel farther with the same kinetic energy if traveling in the direction of other matter; etc. etc.. All of these processes must be in the mind's subconscious projection of reality, so that the mind can connect how they relate to metaphysical chaos, so the mind can tune in its subconscious expectations of reality with the manipulation. Attempting to manipulate something involving a system the mind hasn't ever tried to understand likely won't work.


- Manipulation using awareness of metaphysical chaos is not "hit or miss" when it comes to success, but fluid. There is no exact definition of when "success" occurred with manipulation and when it didn't, the mind has to stream manipulation; this "streaming" requires a blazing level of focus in the 'mind's eye', the more focused the mind is on the manipulation, the more apparent it becomes. How focused the mind is is not determined by how intensely the mind is thinking, but is instead determined by the level of understanding and belief in what it is doing. An easy way to return to a state of streaming manipulation is to visualize to visualize the 'chaos' element present in whatever chaotic system you are trying to manipulate the outcome of. Qualitative mental processes which may interfere with the brains focus on manipulation or motivation to continue manipulation include various things like: fear of what it would imply if manipulation was blatantly successful, lack of confidence in manipulation, as well as simply lethargy produced from the brain lacking the energy and resources needed to reach the constant stream of focus the mind's eye requires during manipulation.

That's it for this topic for now, I'll add more later maybe. I'm getting that feeling of disgust its common to get when you start to sober up and realize that what you've been doing for an hour or two was probably a massive waste of time, especially when it was pertaining to a subject matter so esoteric, off the wall, and bizarre, that its very likely to be dismissed by any passerby as delusional ramblings (which I'm comfortable with, but don't want to waste any more time now that its more apparent to me).


Footnotes:
[1.] When wondering what exactly qualifies as a "chaotic system", or what elements of chaos are present in any given thing, weather is a classic example of a chaotic system to refer to - predictions can be made about the weather, but uncertainty is present to the the extent that not only is uncertainty common, but guaranteed; and that is what defines a chaotic system: when a dynamic system with sensitive initial conditions is at a complexity and scale that our inability to predict its outcome is innate, independent of the technological complexity of the equipment we use to measure it. I.e., Some chaotic systems are at a level of complexity that even with the most technologically advanced equipment we can fantasize of harnessing, we would still be unable to rule out a decent level of uncertainty. That level of technology simply doesn't exist, it can never be developed because no technological discovery out there or organized effort of manpower/resources on Earth or anywhere would be enough to do so -- short of tapping into other euclidean dimensions that operated in some way that conveniently/coincidentally provided us access to otherwise unobtainable information on the arbitrary location/velocity of all subatomic particles in our universe, and also the energy/resources/space needed to construct and power a device capable of storing data on every particle's location/velocity in the universe, and then projecting it into a machine that would predict the future of everything. If the human race ever came close to being capable of that kind of technology, we'd likely have already learned the fate of the universe on the road to getting there, have become content with an inability to prevent it or change it, and simply not care about knowing the weather for certain or predicting the future anymore, and we'd be accepting life as it is with its flaws and limitations whilst harvesting as much pleasure as possible to occupy our time.

[2.] Stimulant use and sleep deprivation immediately come to mind. During sleep, the seeds we planted in our unconscious during the day have a chance to flourish into metaphorical flora at night - when we are well rested, our subconscious mental projection of "what reality is" is at its strongest and most accurate; unfortunately though, active control over subconscious expectations is only really achievable when that mental projection is at its dimmest. Through sleep deprivation, we can dim our mind's projection of reality. However, when the brain is low on resources, it produces a feeling of lethargy to the mind, and besides telling the mind it needs to rest and replenish itself, it also protects the mind from making mistakes in observations / problem solving that might damage mental constructs the brain had been working on during the day - since just a single thought prompts the brain to produce more thoughts of the same nature, a misleading/corrupt thought produced while the brain was exhausted that it accidentally took seriously could end up triggering a cascade of desynchronous thought (or as it used to be called in early psychology, a "neurosis"). Lethargy slows down or haults mental tasks that are unnecessary or ones that it isn't using; luckily, the mind can force itself to turn off the feeling of lethargy by fighting through it until the mind lifts its own veil. If an individual denies themselves sleep long enough, there brain will eventually stop generating the feeling of fatigue. This is perhaps due to the fact that during periods of danger or stress (or periods of extreme excitement/productivity), instinctual mechanisms are in place to ignore lethargy to continue doing what needs to be done. That is where stimulant use would come in; keeping the mind's sense of motivation up and running during a period where our body would normally be turning it off. This state of mind does not come without consequences though, since basically what it is doing is depriving the brain of resources to uproot the subconscious - staying in this state too long can easily end up producing psychosis; but in a way this is voluntarily putting oneself in psychosis, or close to its threshold anyways -- when it becomes textbook "psychosis" depends on how one defines insanity and at what point one would consider the line between sane and insane, which is only "objective" in the eyes of society and all subjective to the individual, so at no point will an individual be able to tell when they've gone too far and officially become psychotic - the individual will have to determine that for themselves, the only alarm bells that will ring are the ones set to go off by an individual themselves.
 
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Hmm, I dunno, I think one can skip out on the metaphysical entirely, deal with just the physical mechanics, and things work just fine.

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Required zero metaphysical pondering, and was handled with classical mechanics, the rocket equation and some statistical mechanics and chemistry. It worked, bitches.
 
^To first reply to the above comment: If you don't have anything constructive to say, don't say anything at all. Furthermore, rockets to space and men on the moon were accomplished with more than just theories of physical mechanics - they required human motivation and a powerful dream.

OP: Your post reminds me of some of my own musings that have touched upon boundaries. Just a couple thoughts for now. First of all, the use of the word "magic" is always a tricky one. I think that word immediately turns aways more hard-headed types because of the mistaken belief that "magic" refers to a childish conception of causality (e.g., a witch uttering a bunch of giberish which turns a prince into a frog). But I think the more correct conception of magic (or esoteric, if you prefer) is grounded in reality and is not incompatible with physical laws of the universe, as you point out. Magic, however, is mysterious in that it covers a domain of causality which lies hidden from commonplace perception. Magic is happening all the time in the world around us, but for humans it becomes special because of our capacity for conscious intent - this allows for the manipulation to which you refer. The manipulation is related to alchemy in that various elements of reality are moved, combined, and altered so as to transform them into unique end products.

The formula might be: Various Elements + Conscious Intent --> Something New

ALthough I see that you emphasize more subconscious/unconscious aspects of the process, which I would prefer to call unconscious magic and which might result in so called "miracles" because no one seems to understand what just happened (because it was unconscious).

the responsible use of manipulation is inherently required for its useI]


Totally agree. "With great power comes great responsibility" - Uncle Ben in Spiderman
I myself have had the experience of becoming aware of the inner workings of reality, and through that of gaining access to an ability to "control" people and things. However, that ability seemed fragile and depended on a simultaneous awareness of some kind of "greater good" in which I was not actually "manipulating" but simply assisting elements of reality in attaining their desired potential. Without this aspect, the manipulation would be tied solely to selfish aims and would ultimate cause personal harm and the loss of that ability. Like the difference between Gandalf and Saruman ;)
 
One thing I once read that comes to mind (from some of the more reliable channeled material out there) is that "The magician is the greatest crimimal", in the eyes of God, as he's manipulating with the energies of Creation in an illegal way, and also because he's highly enough evolved that he should know better.

So the karmic consequences are meant to be particularly hard. Also compared to using a credit card, in the sense that you eventually have to pay back. While the more primitive, animal-like soul's crimes are seen as more innocent, as its acting out of in-programmed instincts in a way it has little control and knowledge of, similar to an animal. I guess this make sense when you really think of it.

I also think it's very wrong to glamourise and lead people to getting involved in magic, and that the consequences of it are very harsh. The only kind of magic that is acceptable is probably the kind that Jesus performed - to heal (yourself or others) or change the world for the better. But not simply for amusement, ego, or to attain selfish desires.

Or, it's a possibility, but takes an enormous amount of effort and comes with a huge price, so is it really worth it? The high and mighty magician, in my understanding, seems to be someone setting himself up for a great fall...

I know this isn't much fun to hear and sounds like one of those tiresome things Jesus would say. But then his mission was never to tell us what we want to hear but more to save us from the consequences of our wrongful actions. The former might do us a very shallow favour but isn't able to accomplish anything like the salvation of our souls, more the contrary. And this isn't meant as a criticism of the thread starter, by the way, just an observation on the topic itself.
 
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Hmm, I dunno, I think one can skip out on the metaphysical entirely, deal with just the physical mechanics, and things work just fine.

Required zero metaphysical pondering, and was handled with classical mechanics, the rocket equation and some statistical mechanics and chemistry. It worked, bitches.

Are you sure? Maybe you're living in a severe state of solipsism and is all of reality just an illusion (at worst) or is it vulnerable to skepticism (at best)?

And on a related note: are those nice colors in the picture (blueish, yellowish) -- and any other qualia -- not unreal in favor of physicalism (i.e. the only true reality consisting of particles/strings/molecules behaving according to mathematical structures)

Isn't it worth -- at least 5 minutes -- to ask these metaphysical questions before jumping straight into a life-long pursuit of solving problems in theoretical physics?
 
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^So you preassume Nature is rational, it is reasonable -- reason being that which our mind also has -- and that we can retrieve univocally this rationality in/of nature; such that chaos is just a privation or lack of rational understanding... Maybe reason is just a (partial, finite) superimposition on reality by our human mind (i.e. reason) and Nature-in-itself will always be undeterminable and chaotic (chaos here being the negation/dual of rationality/orderedness, rather than taken in the specific scientific sense of "chaos theory").
 
But isn't chaos really a kind of evil in itself? Not in intent, but in the effects it can produce. The life of a typical drug-addict being a good example. None of the evil is of intent but as a result of the chaos. Like not being able to keep ordered finances and all the problems it leads to.

In fact I would say drug-addiction can be a very good lesson in chaos, all the harm that it lead to, and the value of keeping an orderly life. Maybe even the best available in human life. It's like you let one thing slide then everything else can follow. I mean, there are people out there who have lost practically everything and have nothing in their life apart from the high (which eventually doesn't even work anymore).

So allowing chaos into your life can lead to great loss. Though there is a sense of freedom and fun sense of mischief about it. You don't have the follow all the rules and live with all the constraints others have to.

But the price of that can also become very high and the typical person in the midst of a drug addiction tend to be much more depressed than a person living a normal life. Just the chemicals mask the depression most of the time but the underlying depression of the consciousness can be very deep.

Anyway, the ironic thing is when you ARE trapped in an addiction or any kind of very regular use it doesn't help how clearly you can seen with your rational mind how bad it is, as the addiction isn't really in the mind, but in the emotional and physical nature. So that is what you have to work on, like by taking better care of your health which will give you access to natural chemicals that will make you feel better.

If you really can't quit, maybe start taking a lower, therapeutic dose that will allow you to function without getting high. And if your lifestyle is out of control and you feel unable to turn it around maybe make some kind of compromise, like taking a part-time job and sorting out some of your social life, instead of feeling like you have to choose between those two extremes as the switch from one to the other is so challenging to make.

Anyway, this got really off topic, but might be useful to some. It's really about attitude and what you can see as possible realities. Nothing to do with intelligence as even the most intelligent person can become deluded and lose touch with reality, not to mention with the help of drugs (and not to even mention psychedelics).
 
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