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Mayos traditionally can’t wrap their head around the fact that our system is a uniparty. You can fault the turtle for a lot, but he never changed the filibuster rule bc he knew there would be no coming back.

they had enough votes though, right? No need.
 
they had enough votes though, right? No need.
Not to get through what they actually wanted. Neo liberals could cram through every authoritarian measure they ever wanted if the filibuster rule was gotten rid of. I still support them doing this, bc nothing will get better till we are forced to take up arms and do a refresh imo
 
Look into what changing the filibuster rule means bro

As it stands now, it means that, unless you get 60 votes in the Senate, you're dead in the water. Right? Without getting "into the weeds" with the procedural technicalities and whatnot, that's basically the gist of it.

It does seem, based on some metrics, that the level of political dysfunction in the United States is increasing, and perhaps the system is ripe for some reform

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Mayos traditionally can’t wrap their head around the fact that our system is a uniparty. You can fault the turtle for a lot, but he never changed the filibuster rule bc he knew there would be no coming back.

No coming back from...what? You just said yourself that we currently live in a neoliberal uniparty (if not in form than in function), the left and right are "two wings on the same bird" etc...so what is being prevented exactly, or who currently doesn't have the power they that desire (and sees the filibuster rule as some kind of key impediment to that power)? It seems to me that the system we live under is functioning exactly as it was intended, so I'm not sure who's authoritarian ambitions are being frustrated here. And the GOP found ways to get around the filibuster rules in the past, they did it with welfare reform in the Clinton era and the Bush tax cuts, etc, it's just that their political program is more about preventing things from happening than constructing new policy.
 
As it stands now, it means that, unless you get 60 votes in the Senate, you're dead in the water. Right? Without getting "into the weeds" with the procedural technicalities and whatnot, that's basically the gist of it.

It does seem, based on some metrics, that the level of political dysfunction in the United States is increasing, and perhaps the system is ripe for some reform

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No coming back from...what? You just said yourself that we currently live in a neoliberal uniparty (if not in form than in function), the left and right are "two wings on the same bird" etc...so what is being prevented exactly, or who currently doesn't have the power they that desire (and sees the filibuster rule as some kind of key impediment to that power)? It seems to me that the system we live under is functioning exactly as it was intended, so I'm not sure who's authoritarian ambitions are being frustrated here. And the GOP found ways to get around the filibuster rules in the past, they did it with welfare reform in the Clinton era and the Bush tax cuts, etc, it's just that their political program is more about preventing things from happening than constructing new policy.
If you read about the founding the senate was meant to be different from the house. Things are supposed to be hard to pass, its meant to force bipartisanship.

I’d consider myself pretty normie, until the installation of Biden at least. And pushing some radical stuff through could be what needs to happen to set things in motion, so I’m divided. But I know I’m not the only one that thinks like this and is ready to go. Real change will only happen when the people make it happen imo
 
If the filibuster was eradicated tomorrow what are the top 3 legislative threats facing America in the current Presidential term? What laws would be passed that are an existential threat either to the country or to Republicans/Conservatives?
 
If the filibuster was eradicated tomorrow what are the top 3 legislative threats facing America in the current Presidential term? What laws would be passed that are an existential threat either to the country or to Republicans/Conservatives?

No answer to this question? Anyone? Seems like the threat from getting rid of the Filibuster was make believe.
 
Does anyone have a family member who watches too much Fox News and then yells at you for Democrat’s policies that you might not even agree with?
I have a mix of both liberal and some traditionally conservative policies that I support, like most people I think. It’s not absolutely one or the other.
Yet somehow I am vilified and turned into a “far left” individual by a number of people (including BLers), when irl, far left people say I’m not far left enough.
What ever happened to nuance?
 
If the filibuster was eradicated tomorrow what are the top 3 legislative threats facing America in the current Presidential term? What laws would be passed that are an existential threat either to the country or to Republicans/Conservatives?
Infrastructure and voting rights would be two of them, probably.
 
Does anyone have a family member who watches too much Fox News and then yells at you for Democrat’s policies that you might not even agree with?
I have a mix of both liberal and some traditionally conservative policies that I support, like most people I think. It’s not absolutely one or the other.
Yet somehow I am vilified and turned into a “far left” individual by a number of people (including BLers), when irl, far left people say I’m not far left enough.
What ever happened to nuance?

Just wait until you live somewhere in the US where the opposite happens, and you are accused of being alt-right for attempting to bring nuance to leftist talking points.
 
Does anyone have a family member who watches too much Fox News and then yells at you for Democrat’s policies that you might not even agree with?
I have a mix of both liberal and some traditionally conservative policies that I support, like most people I think. It’s not absolutely one or the other.
Yet somehow I am vilified and turned into a “far left” individual by a number of people (including BLers), when irl, far left people say I’m not far left enough.
What ever happened to nuance?

Yeah my dad watches only Fox News. It brainwashes him.

My brother in law almost got into a fist fight with my dad when he turned on Fox News inside my brother in law's house lmao
 
What was interesting about this for me was hearing even really progressive academics slagging off this program on the ABC this morning. Usually they greenlight this kind of stuff without second thought. It must be pretty crook if Sydney Uni and the ABC are against it.
 
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