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CEPS Well Hung Parliament (CEPS Social/Off Topic)

Look, I enjoyed the poetry of it, the weaving dance of insults but the point was not only beaten but positively assraped by paragraph 3.

I gotta say, I am stoned as fuck myself :D but throw in the other stupid disso sedative opiate amalgam. I could organise a posse of triangles with my own zebra army if I wanted.
 
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Guess this forum has crickets. Used to be quite busy...its like I am posting to myself. How do I run for moderator? I announce I wish to be a candidate for CEP moderator.
 
I just remembered a story. I'm not posting this as a CE&P matter, only tangential, but, here we mentioned Jews and drugs, and this being the social thread.

I was sitting around a campfire tripping/rolling/just generally faced after a concert at a festival and I was in the process of seducing this girl, there's a few people around, and the conversation of course is going here and there and we talked about politics, and she was like, the only thing I really care about, politically, is eretz yisrael am yisrael; this was during one or another of the really ugly situations in Gaza, and, well, I didn't say anything, but it put me in kind of a weird space, I still continued hitting on this girl who was totally into it; I was totally into her ... it actually turns out that I kind of have a thing for Jewish girls, apparently, as a matter of fact (although back then I wasn't really political but did know in my gut that if I expressed my feelings on the matter then nothing would ever happen between us; I'm quite sure it would've been a "deal breaker" for her ... actually, turns out, well, we shall see ...)

Here comes the funny bit. We were heading to my tent, while some other guy, actually one of the kids who was working for my very good friend that I went to the festival, starts following us as we're walking hooking up to my tent and stuff, and he comes to me and is like can I talk to you for a minute; I have been trying to get with this girl for months, I just broke up with my girlfriend to be with her, when sober she wants a relationship with me, etc., etc., etc., really like on some begging shit and of course showing a lot of deference to me 'cause me and his boss had a horizontal line in the org chart, it was honestly pathetic.

Now, she & I were super into each other, but, on account of respect for his boss, my best friend and partner at the time (who I'm pretty sure you know BTW), and his organization, wanting to make sure to maintain absolute comity, I left her alone after that. Soon enough she was going off with him. Which basically says I guess that she was impaired enough to be down for whatever, or should I say whoever, at least due to my baller status at the time, but really wanted in her heart to be with this guy who wanted to be with her (also Jewish.)

I was really conflicted within myself because there and now I was balling hard and basically surrounded by all these groupies/camp followers, and I wound up putting my energy into her, but the next morning when I went to meet with the kid's boss to sort some shit out he indeed thank me for showing respect.

The whole thing was awkward as fuck. But also, I think, the kid and his old lady both were pretty hardcore actually opposed to exogamy, so I guess I was showing respect to that, too, at least indirectly; she wouldn't have wanted to spend the night with a goy, if in her right mind.

Although I don't really know for sure what my reaction would've been if he had brought that up when he was begging me not to hook up with his girl.

Weird situation.

(Also I was reading some halakhic commentary* about marijuana and they brought up the rebellious son in Deut. xxi; that's some pretty hardcore shit; the scripture talks about the son getting stoned, you know, in the entirely different fashion.) ANYHOW ...

Anyway, mgs, am I still an anti-Semite?

[Truth be told I just wanted to share an amusing story.]

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* Which I do from time to time, I find it fascinating, especially having read Shahak's Jewish History, Jewish Religion, which I'd recommend to anyone interested in an idiosyncratic but highly learned liberal/humanistic/secular Jewish perspective on Zionism.
 
I use the term jew hater loosely. I am just giving you shit. I know you dont hate all jews or even most of em or even any of them. I dont wanna engage in that debate anyway anymore. Its a tiree old lame debate. We are always good and lets keep the social happy anyway.

Great story btw. Enjoyed reading it. ?

Re jew girls...funny enough never been into them. Sure, I find some attractive but actually most of i do not for some reason. Ive never dated one and only met one i can recall of hand i ever wanted to date. Maybe i am the real jew hater here.

Ps Escher is a great mod. I'd love to join e team. Promise to stop making so many trump threads.

Just saw the new star wars film. Great movie...liked it better than episode vii.
 
Episode 7 officially sucked imo. Old hat.

I enjoyed The Arrival though, that was interesting and different.

You'd be a good mod MGS :).
 
Promise to stop making so many trump threads.
It gets pretty depressing doesn't it?

I was thinking about posting a thread about the new social security restrictions implemented by the Republicans and how our generation is going to be fucked when we retire because billionaires took all our money. BUT on the plus side, physician-assisted suicide is becoming an American thing. We will have SOMETHING to do in our retirement now, huh?

Yeah, I'm not worried about the crickets so much as the death and destruction. Trump threads are like a bad metal song.
 
OTOH if you put your pot money in an index fund ...

You really must be smoking enough to retire on if you think you'll be better taken of by the Democrats. Possible exception: if you are in a union, most particularly a public sector one.
 
Pot money is one of the biggest relevant contributors to modern economics in America, but I'll let you drool over those numbers.
 
LOL. Not only do you have no clue what you're talking about, or who you're talking to, but you seem to be confounding several concepts and numbers there (the size of the illicit economy as it relates to the licit economy and the booming quasi-licit pot industry and various legalize-it-bro talking points.) You also seem to think that I'll somehow be surprised at something you're saying here.

And further LOL @ pride in corporatization of marijuana (i.e. transfer from the former to the black to grayish market) as if it's a good thing. The tax situations of these corporations are in many jurisdictions pretty questionable, anyway, especially, for obvious reasons, on a federal level. The market, like most corporate agricultural markets, is also increasingly bad for the labor at the bottom. Not a lot of benefits, job stability, etc. there. Not to mention the fact that if Trump/Sessions et al. step up enforcement of federal marijuana law in "legal states," which I hope they follow through to do, both for the lulz and to troll West Coast stoners and for what would amount to a sort of tariff on so-called "legal state" marijuana that winds up being for export, which would have a positive and stabilizing effect on the illicit economies in other states, ending a NAFTA-esque "giant sucking sound" on the economy there.)

At best marijuana is good for the economy like casinos are good for the economy, a revenue band-aid of questionable long term value for real people, a provider of relatively few and low quality jobs and a purveyor of negative general economic externalities. No matter what the actual gross receipts are, or how much money is derived from taxes, etc., it's not a (stable, good, livable) job-creator and it's not, at the end of the day, good for the little guy, really. The marijuana industry out there is already getting, well, industrialized, corporatized, and, accordingly, is going to fuck over the little guy as much as possible in the interests of the bottom line, including by distributing more potent, addictive, and potentially harmful products*.

Also, this was good for a chuckle:

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I'm no broker manager but I like to think I can read a chart enough to recognize that this is a tenuous situation here (the preposterousness of the fact that there's a marijuana stock index/ETF is pretty fucking preposterous as it is. I hope you don't have your retirement in these. Although part of me would like to short the shit out of them (I'm also short BTC.) But what Dorito-stained, pizza-delivery-specialtist, underage potbro cares about retirement? Blaze it, bro, because Frito-Lay Corp. is going to reap more economic benefits from any changes in the marijuana market than your retirement is. The only fungible and liquid asset literally goes up in smoke, and once the smoke stops getting blowed up the collective asses of people who think that the current patchwork legislative situation is a stable one, pop, that's the sound of that bubble bursting after a couple of quality raids and press conferences.

Now, where it's underground, it can and does help out some people in need, from growers to small-time dealers (whether this is full time or just economic gap-bridging, more power to them if they have to) but it's not exactly a boon to the economy on paper. It's just like any of these other little off the books hustles people have. Most non-serious pot dealers are basically Avon ladies these days anyway, and do about as well for themselves. And is certainly not helping anyone's retirement ... unless of course the counter-economic practicioners invest their money ... but all that money really is is a drain on the pocket of the consumer for little benefit to him (legitimate medical indications excepted, of course) except for the hedonic ones, and is thereby redirected from more constructive sectors of the economy into the hands of drug dealers. Which I have no problem with, really. That's the game.

That will still the game when it's legal, only the government will get it a share, and the overall price probably won't change all that much (and it's not really that cheap; pot is a huge portion of a lot of you youngsters budgets); but when we're in the bizarro-world situation that we're in now, it creates all sorts of economic disequilibriums, fucks people over by sheer accident of geography and creates a weird nexus of organized crime, exploitative agriculture, multi-tiered products with a "race to the bottom" in terms of consumer safety both at the top of the bottom, and half a dozen other negative externalities now mixing with capitalists and U.S. state economies in states of ruin, all hanging by a cunt hair of federal see-no-evil.

But hey, blaze it.

I cannot wait to see the level of butthurt once [if?] the DEA starts kicking down doors with Sessions @ DOJ dot gov. Because the whole 'legal state' shit is just hubris of the first order and the people involved aren't really a very sympathetic bunch to me, and aren't good for most people's bottom line except for their own. Like, you know, most people I guess. But they really, really hurt a lot of fragile illicit economies elsewhere, and fucked up a bunch of shit including quite possibly leading to increased violence in Mexico. But hey, blaze it! Legalize it! Anyway, seeing the downfall of arrogant fuckers is always a good show.

* If this tickles your 'harmless-plant' reflex, I'd consider you to actually, you know, review some medical evidence, combined with current market trends, which are bad juju.
Or Amway, or any other MLM bullshit; but my point being here rather that they're basically just acting as drop shippers for some corporate ass grow op somewhere else (which a genuine number of actual professional pot dealers are now in 'illegal states') and unless they hustle their assess of don't make much, and most of them smoke it away.
It's unlikely to be a priority or a focus, but some midsized to serious raids may go down as a way to make a point, and that point will be taken.
 
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