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The most important issue for this election is:
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true and funny at the same time.
 
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thats what we say every election. though some of the democratic candidates could have made insanely great presidents compared to their republican counterparts, given the chance

hopefully this election the dems will have returned
 
If we can be honest in this thread, the REAL issue is individualism v. collectivism.

Both Obama and McCain are collectivists.

Kuccinich and Paul were the only 2 BIG individualists in the race.
Chuck Baldwin (current carrier of the Individualist torch in the presidential race) would be a good person to support.

The red/blue divide is false.
The Individualist/Collectivist divide is not a divide of belief, but a divide of The Law.

Collectivist principals are prohibited by the Constitution (limitation of governmental powers) - and carrying them out is criminal - regardless of the intentions of those committing the collectivist ideals into law.

Individualism is guaranteed by the Constitution - all states MUST give a government based on the ideology of individualism to their citizens.

This makes things easy...
Obama and McCain support unconstitutional collectivist policies... these policies are CRIMINAL under the Constitution (Supreme Law of the Land/highest authority - and unconstitutionality is criminality of the highest order).

Ending the collectivist policies is enforcing the law of the land (Constitution) - and ensuring equal rights under the law...

So the most important issue is to decide if you want to vote for a known criminal who is proposing MORE crimes against humanity - and all American citizens...
Or if you want to restore the rule of law by electing someone that's promised to do so.
 
Zeit Geist & the truth about money

"The bold efforts the present bank has made to control the government.... are but premonitions of the fate that awaits the american people should they be deluded into perpetuation of this institution, or the establishment of another like it" ~Andrew Jackson in reference to nationalized banking & the likes of companies of the same nature as the federal reserve.

Skip the first minute or two since its just intro with weird music.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912


What is your opinion if you've seen it before?

Its sad that more people don't realize this sort of thing is occurring or rather choose to turn a blind eye to protect their invested time.
 
"The bold efforts the present bank has made to control the government.... are but premonitions of the fate that awaits the american people should they be deluded into perpetuation of this institution, or the establishment of another like it"
Why include an ellipsis? Was the rest not important? Did it not fit your agenda?

~Andrew Jackson in reference to nationalized banking & the likes of companies of the same nature as the federal reserve.
And what did Andrew Jackson do to solve it? He made the US go into its first depression. Great idea?

Skip the first minute or two since its just intro with weird music.
lol why it need wierd music? That makes me suspicious.

What is your opinion if you've seen it before?
I'm not even going to watch it and already I've refuted everything you've said. I have seen Zeitgeist if that's what the link is. And you know what? It's all a bunch of bull shit! Zeitgeist is never going to "beat the system" in any way, shape, or form.

Its sad that more people don't realize this sort of thing is occurring or rather choose to turn a blind eye to protect their invested time.

You know what I invest my time in? Looking at my own problems. I've got too many of them to worry about a conspiracy. In the mean time, I can try to help those around me. Zeitgeist never did shit for my community. It is also anti-semitic. You might not realize it at this point, but many people who love Zeitgeist hate Jews. So please, to whoever this applies to - don't waste your time with it. Quit trying to blame something else for your problems and check yourselves.
 
The money system is Zeitgeist 2 - Addendum.

I haven't watched it all the way through.
Andrew Jackson appeared to be speaking against the Federal Reserve system - which caused the first depression, but alas, this isn't my focus and my knowledge on all this is limited... so I'll withhold further comment.

There is also a difference between anti-Jew and anti-zionist.
The first is racial, the second is ideological.
Love the person, hate the ideology.
~K
 
it "reveals" that we have a fractionary lending system. our money is simply a note that is lent at interest. i knew this but didn't really realize the implications until i saw this movie.

imo after thinking about it for a while, i'm not totally against fiat money. it created the middle class in many ways.

i just wish people would have invested all of that manufacturing effort in more sustainable pursuits.
 
Happy Hanukkah

the dollar is made from debt, the USA should have currency backed by silver or gold, any physical metal. The "Silver note"(the ability to turn one USA dollar into an ounce of silver) program was great until 1964 when it abruptly ended after Kennedy got assassinated. Are you under the impression the treatment our people receive in this video is justified?

I didnt ask about your problems nor do i really care(about yours inparticular) but yeah you seem to be a pretty closed minded arrogant person with a grand sense of entitlement who felt the need to exert an opinion on a situation you seemingly know nothing about.

That’s al right in my book Ill let that slide but I must admit I AM PEEVED you’re overly up-idity & trying to pull religion into this for some reason when that’s the farthest thing from relevant.

Maybe its that you cant even argue with the facts of our monetary system so your attempting to divert peoples attention by playing the anti semtic card; Would you like some WHHAAAAA-Burgers With your French Crys?

“Hey guys, once Hitler drove a beatle & soo liike he hated jews & was a nazi soo that means everyone who drives a Beatle is “generally” a nazi.” Are you really that stupid??? Don’t be a Jackass! That’s redonkous.

Oh wait dude, I called you stupid & you may happen to be jewish or african so I must be a Nazi or a KKK too now, right?

You don’t know me, wasting my time opening your mouth on such falsely based bias . If you want to trash me at least make an effort to dismantle some information presented in the video with REAL “ facts” that people can verify for themselves. Sorry to go off on you but we(along with all matter) are/is all energy condensed with a slow vibration, you very much insulted me with unfounded & false accusations implying id be hung up on such a tribal difference such as religion or color. I do my best to generate unconditional love & forgiveness.



Good will grow out of the evils that have swept over our country. Banks will be brought to conduct their busness within proper Banking principles— the government being separated from all Banks will be a godsend to the Banks, as well as the people. The great evil to both are, any connection with either, and the most experienced, and talented directors of our Banks, here, are in favor of the perpetual divorce of all Banks and the Government – this will give stability to the banks”
~ Andrew Jackson

(i am under the impression we as America very likely may soon see a tangling/"merging" so complex of the banking & gov it could take generations to undo the damage created)

Im confident that Jackson got elected running on the platform of removing the banking menace since it was hurting the people. He succeeded but after his passing the Banksters (Gangster Bankers) re infiltrated.
Do you work for a bank?

Conspiracy " An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful
, or subversive act."

No one will ever commit a conspiracy & the richest people have your best interest at <3. They wouldn't dream of using you OR of keeping you dependant on inefficient energy sources to generate a working class. Sorry to say but the Federal Reserve isn’t a conspiracy, it’s a “fact”.




i love how you accuse me of "having an agenda" when yours is clearly disinformation where as mine is motivated by ample warning & "facts". This is non profit if you didnt realize, I don’t have a book or a site etc. Im not selling anything or generating profit in anyway from this & I sure as hell can be doing better things with my time.

I get a lot of bull shit for stating facts but I do make accessible what I consider important excerpts & links regardless. Ive seen the effect it has & the impact it makes on the lives of those who know. Its your decision to turn a blind eye to buffer your investment of time into our system, Please DO NOT ATTEMPT TO bring “jew hating” back into this, that was disgusting.
 
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Yes, the monetary system is fucked up. What are you going to do about it? Watch a movie and tell people about it? I never said YOU were anti-semitic, but surely you must know that anti-semitic people eat that Zeitgeist shit up? That's what I said. You might not realize it, I didn't realize it a couple years ago when I ate that Zeitgeist shit up, but you might realize that one day. Let's face it - how are YOU going to change the monetary system?

Rich people are corrupt? No crap! If that is your passion in life, study law and do something about it. For now, I will focus on what I CAN do in this world, instead of focus on what is out-of-reach.
 
I saw it, I liked it, but unlike everyone Joe on the interweb I'm not swooning over it.

The three parts it's broken into have so little to do with each other, it just seems to have absolutely no direction. It takes 1 part solid fact on issues I feel most people should know about, and then shits all over it with the 2 parts of conspiracy theory it throws in on top of it.

The more i hear about, the less I like it.
 
Zeitgeist, more specifically the part about the Fed, isn't complete bullshit. There's some truth in it.

Alas, it's surrounded by so much sensationalist bullshit that you're better off doing your own research than listening to the crap the way they present it.

It's propaganda.

Maybe that's what it takes to get people to pay attention, but honestly, fuck that shit.
 
Uh, yeah

I really don't get how just because some people who also hate Jews like Zeitgeist that means we should totally ignore it. People who hate Jews like a lot of things, like easter eggs and snowboarding. I won't avoid anything because of it. And just because a video has weird music in the beginning you get suspicious... way to not judge a book by it's cover.

As for the quote, if the elipses bother you so much, why don't you look the whole quote up yourself.
 
I would highly recommend that the OP find other sites, other than StormFront when deciding what movies to view. The movie is utter nonsense. I am100% Jewish and can tell you most of us laught at people like that, and if you believe it, sorry to say most of us laugh at you (while others feel pity).

Why are all those ultra-orthadox in NYC living in Housing Projects and/or living on welfare? Greed? You think it is fun to go sit and be harrangued for 8 hours to get 67 dollars every 2 weeks? You have no ideas what Jews are, how they live, or even about your own country if you believe Jews control the monetary system.

It is funny. You know why so many Jews are in the gems, etc business? Because non-Jews forbade us from owning land, and engaging in most every other occuption and this is worldwide, not just Europeans . We had no choice. Most though do not trade in such valuables, etc. There are 14 million of us at the moment (no thanks to people like the ones producing your film) and how many of us are bankers and in related valuable trades? Do you even know?

I will not even waste my time impolding virtually all the myths featured in your movie, which if you are curious, I saw as soon as it came out. I feel that if Americans do not car eenough to defend their own system to you, I sure as hell do not.
 
Its not a news story but something every United States citizen should have seen abot george bush (its not a hate video, but him getting some simple questions HORRIBLY WRONG)

[Other videos too of the same thing, this should be front page news that stupidity is this rampant]

Its also one of the many reasons Canadians think most people in the USA are retarded

Heres just one of the anwsers george bush gave; He thought the prime minister of Canada was Mr. Poutine (Poutine is the name of a french Canadian food which is made of fries with gravy with mozza cheese curds)

I forget the exact time he comes on but I suggest you watch the whole video

From: Talking To Americans on the CBC (You'll laugh if your Canadian and Laugh+facepalm if your from the US) Enjoy

They also burn mike Huckabee, they tell him our capital building is a giant igloo, and mr huckabee turns to the camera, and seriously says "Congradulations Canada On Preserving Your National Igloo"

Other highlights "Canada Is Our most important neighbour to the north"

"Congradulations Canada on Legalizing VCR's"
"Congradulations Canada on reaching a population of 1 million"

Al gore "Im looking forward to visiting Canada's Capital Toronto"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seYUbVa7L7w

MORE (Without bus, but more US politicians)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFQlIUWOm1A&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9Bnm-G4plY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyJPs0SxvNc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N5CRmkkIx4

Congradulations Canada on Allowing dogs as house pets

PETA Protestors 'We respectfully ask the Canadian Government place the Hairy Elephant of Labrador on the endangered species list due to its environment being destroyed by Labradors intense urban sprawl" ROFL
 
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Kill the messenger



"Sibel Edmonds, a 32-year-old Turkish-American, was hired as a translator by the FBI shortly after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 because of her knowledge of Middle Eastern languages. She was fired less than a year later in March 2002 for reporting shoddy work and security breaches to her supervisors that could have prevented those attacks"


Does anyone know if it is true?
 
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