In Other News... CEPS meme thread v 2020 - new year, new memes

[Bagseed]

ignoring the basic facts of who paid to build the domicile, who maintains it,

yeah but it is the old game of making capital into more capital by sucking up value created by people actually working (in this scenario construction workers, technicians, architects, maintenance staff, etc.). just because you have money, doesn't mean you actually created the value which the profit you are getting out consists of.

I had a long answer to most of your points, but i's likely moot. You've got your perspective, I've got mine. I'm not sure how productive a discussion like this would be, when you have such hard set opinions on the matter. Nor, do I believe this thread would be the right place

well I'd love to hear your answer because whenever the paradigm of "spending money to earn money" is questioned in any way, there never seems to be a good logical pushback.

btw, I am well aware that in order to start a business, you need some capital to get it going, but either way, work creates profit, not the money itself.

 

[JGrimez]

 

[Neopunk]

You were wishing death upon someone who has helped countless people and also lying about the carnivore diet which supports reducing the health of others through misinformation.

He has helped people? He grifted them for millions on patreon. He's just some reactionary asshole who's become famous through his transphobia. A litte later all those incels had some pseudointellectual that backed all their misogyistic, transphobic and social-darwinistic opinions, how convenient! It's also very convenient to make millions through the most basic self-help advice one could possibly come up with. Turns out all you need to do is to label it as lecture for "real" men (whatever that may be) and how toughness is a male virtue that only get's corrupted by the female chaos dragon and soon all those wankers that didn't want to clean their rooms when their mum told them are taking pride in how neat and clean their rooms are now.

Also isn't it just ironic how he emphasized standing up for yourself and "with your shoulders back", while secretly escaping his problems with drugs just like the rest of us? He's such a fraud, it's really incredible.
Does that suffice to wish death upon him? No.
But the fact that his grifting campaign ran on hatred and he spilled vitriol everywhere, influencing "countless people", fueling their hatred for minorities.
He is, just like the rest of those alt-right grifters and propagandists, partially responsible for racist terrorist attacks like the christchurch shooting. Now I'm not saying that he himself is a fascist. I think he's probably a closeted Stalinist or something. But he sure has no problem taking pictures with fascists and obviously inspires a lot of them, and as said above, most certainly not in a good way. He is one of the central figures that lead people down the alt-right-pipeline until they're watching people like Stefan Molyneaux and straight up want to round up minorities and kill them.
That is why I wish death upon him. Does that make me a cynical asshole? Probably. But I won't take that criticism from a racist conspiracy nut who believes in "The Great Replacement".

But what are you talking about the carnivore diet here? I don't get what you're trying to express.

 

[JGrimez]

He's just some reactionary asshole who's become famous through his transphobia.

He's not even transphobic, this is what annoys me about Peterson-haters. They don't even listen to him and he is one of the most lied about and misrepresented people ever. The whole reason he got famous was because of compelled speech by governments. The fact that the LGBT community were used as pawns to push through oppressive legislation was a coincidence or secondary to what he was fighting against. He has stated numerous times that he would use the preferred pronoun of a trans person if they asked, his problem was the government forcing people's language as that can be an extremely dangerous slippery slope.

It's also very convenient to make millions through the most basic self-help advice one could possibly come up with.

Y'know I've listened to him a lot and I've never once heard him ask for money. Yet many people found his advice helpful and decided to donate to him. And maybe some of his advice was basic. That just shows how starved people are for direction these days. I went to one of his talks and most of the people there were older than you'd expect and there was a good % of women who attended. He also gives a lot of advice that's more profound and nuanced (not like you'd ever bother to listen to him). So he's had many people approach him after his events and tell him that they were on the brink of suicide and that he pulled them back and showed them new meaning to life. And you either don't care about that, don't believe it or choose to ignore it and you want him to die. I find that sentiment despicable.

Also isn't it just ironic how he emphasized standing up for yourself and "with your shoulders back", while secretly escaping his problems with drugs just like the rest of us? He's such a fraud, it's really incredible.

His fucking wife was dying of cancer and he went on antidepressants. His entire family has a history of depression. How insensitive can you be? Especially considering the forum we're speaking on. Ironically you're railing against JBP for allegedly being insensitive. You're just a projecting hypocrite. One of the things I actually disagreed with him on was his occasional promotion of pharmaceutical medication (he comes from a psychology/psychiatry background). Perhaps the ordeal that he went through will be a lesson to him on the very real dangers of drugs.

But the fact that his grifting campaign ran on hatred and he spilled vitriol everywhere, influencing "countless people", fueling their hatred for minorities.

This is just lies. Can you show me any quotes of his where he's spilling vitriol against minorities?

He is, just like the rest of those alt-right grifters and propagandists, partially responsible for racist terrorist attacks like the christchurch shooting.

Now you're just getting ridiculousness and delusional. You're basically running a script that you've been programmed with and are not even aware of it

Now I'm not saying that he himself is a fascist. I think he's probably a closeted Stalinist or something. But he sure has no problem taking pictures with fascists and obviously inspires a lot of them, and as said above, most certainly not in a good way. He is one of the central figures that lead people down the alt-right-pipeline until they're watching people like Stefan Molyneaux and straight up want to round up minorities and kill them.

LOL Molyneux to genocide......right. I see where you're getting your news and opinions from. It's funny because the real racists don't like people like Molyneyx or Peterson. They consider them Zionist shills who are gatekeepers of the truth. But I guess in your opinion if anyone even mentions "race and IQ" that means they are a racist genocidal murderer. You sound mad, son (cuckoo not angry).

That is why I wish death upon him.

and that's why I said what I said.

But what are you talking about the carnivore diet here? I don't get what you're trying to express.

You mentioned the carnivore diet, which is actually incredibly beneficial to treat stuff like depression and mood swings.

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[Xorkoth]

+meme

 

[Neopunk]

How is he not a transphobe? He literally got famous through misrepresenting the bill. Nowhere in this bill the words pronoun, transgender or anything like that are mentioned. He simply used the transphobic sentiment in our societies to make some noise. He's obviously a smart person, so I don't think he misinterpreted things, so that leaves us with the possibility that he calculated the outrage he produced with his misrepresentation of this bill. Also it doesn't force people's language, please show me an excerpt of the text that backs up what you said.

How do you know I never bothered to listen to him? Don't you follow your masters words? Assume that the person you're talking with knows things that you're ignorant about, isn't that one of his 12 rules? How can you know that I apparently don't listen to what he spouts?

Yes it's good if people find solace in his words or even change their mind about killing themselves (I guess.. personally I think sometimes it's better to die instead of suffer through the worst shit, but that is everyones own choice to make).
But it's not cool that he uses his image as self-help guru to basically start a personality cult that he uses to grift people. Damn he even copied Trump by doing an "academy grift" if you want to call it that. Basically he made it appear as if he was teaching at some school he was cooperating with, while only giving his name and pretty much nothing else.

Idk about antidepressants, as far as I know he was on Clonazepam. I know his wife was dying of cancer, but what does that really matter? He always loved talking about being tough in hard times, etc. but when he faced some, there was apparently nothing in his own advice that helped him. Almost as if he only talks in platitudes that have no real value when it comes to helping people...
Btw I always find it funny when his chud followers that are usually hating on trans folx, women and muslims, as well as everything they consider "SJW", start crying for civility whenever someone brings up JBPs benzo addiction.

I never said he was spilling vitriol against minorities, my point is that his reactionary opinions fuel the hatred of like-minded individuals.
There are pictures of him with guys wearing shirts reading "I'm a proud Islamophobe", a lot of pepe, a lot of people doing the ok/white power hand gesture, etc.
So he clearly has no problem with such things. But he also clearly talks shit about trans people, promoting hatred against them, even if he doesn't say out loud that he hates them. Because he doesn't have to anyway.
Also what about the literal nazi (like the original NSDAP nazis) conspiracy theory of cultural bolshevism that he rebrands as "cultural marxism"? He uses a literal nazi conspiracy theory to push back against everything he dislikes, and when confronted with the nonsense of this conspiracy crap, he isn't even able to name one single author he would describe as a post-modernist. I thought the universities were so overrun by hordes of cultural marxist post-modernists? Curious.

As for the christchurch shooting: I'm not saying he is directly connected to this or anything, only that nazis like that are influenced by people like JBP.
Didn't the guy yell "subscribe to PewDiePie" before he died? Or was it another nazi? It's hard to keep up with so many mass murdering fascists y'know..

Where do I get my news and opinions from? How do you know?
And how come you're the only one who knows who's a real racist and who not?
Just because some racists disagree with Molyneaux, doesn't mean he isn't one himself and has a racist audience.
But yes, everyone that mentions "race and IQ" and uses the unscientific and racist book "The Bell Curve" as a source, is a racist. Doesn't make them a genocidal murderer, but isn't it strange that there are so many fascist muderers these days that are found to be watching Ben Shapiro, JBP and Stefan Molyneaux videos?
Surely a coincidence!

And last, the carnivore diet. What a bullshit. It is definetly unhealthy to live that way, and defending that stuff just shows how fucking crazy you are.
Btw JBP didn't seem to have overcome his depression with this diet after all, did he?
I found he looked the same as ever: A bitter old man that looks like he's full of hatred and rages about women and progressives.

 

[JGrimez]

How is he not a transphobe?

Show me something transphobic that he has said. You've made the claim and it's a pretty serious one in this day and age so you better back it up especially before you wish death on someone. As I said, he stated that he would be happy to use the pronoun of a trans person - is that transphobic?? You don't seem to understand the difference between using someone's preferred pronoun out of respect and courtesy vs the government being able to arrest, fine or jail you for not doing so. If you agree with the latter then it is actually you who is the fascist Nazi, ironically...

Also it doesn't force people's language, please show me an excerpt of the text that backs up what you said.

You're just proving how out of your depth you are with regards to this debate. The entire bill was about compelled speech. You should be angry at the people who use the LGBT/trans communities as pawns to push through their political agendas.

How do you know I never bothered to listen to him? Don't you follow your masters words? Assume that the person you're talking with knows things that you're ignorant about, isn't that one of his 12 rules? How can you know that I apparently don't listen to what he spouts?

Because you're talking absolute nonsense. And you didn't reply with something like "yes actually I've listened to many of his speeches". I don't think you would actually do that as you have a seething hatred for him already based on the information that you've received from secondary sources (almost all of it probably lies or misrepresentations).

But it's not cool that he uses his image as self-help guru to basically start a personality cult that he uses to grift people.

I really don't understand what you're trying to say here. Are you against people making money? It's a necessity in our world, obviously. Peterson didn't get into this to become some self-help guru. He saw government overreach and could not sit idly by so he spoke up. He continued to speak publicly and many people liked what he had to say. Then they (many) chose to donate money to him. Then he started touring. I don't see the big deal. If you think his information is useless that's fine, other people disagree. But he has never spewed vitriolic racial hatred or even hinted that people should engage in violence at all.

I know his wife was dying of cancer, but what does that really matter? He always loved talking about being tough in hard times, etc. but when he faced some, there was apparently nothing in his own advice that helped him. Almost as if he only talks in platitudes that have no real value when it comes to helping people...

I actually agree that he made a mistake. But I'm not going to judge as I've never been through something like that and don't know what it would feel like or how I would handle it.

Btw I always find it funny when his chud followers that are usually hating on trans folx, women and muslims, as well as everything they consider "SJW", start crying for civility whenever someone brings up JBPs benzo addiction.

It's also funny and equally hypocritical when people laugh at him for that who would never ever laugh at someone who's going through hard times and was addicted to drugs if said addict was a lefty. I understand why you'd wanna "get back at him" I just think most of the hate directed at JBP is misguided and unwarranted.

I never said he was spilling vitriol against minorities, my point is that his reactionary opinions fuel the hatred of like-minded individuals..

A Bernie supporter was one of the first to carry out violence during the previous election period after he shot up a Republican softball game and almost killed Steve Scalise. This was quickly forgotten about though and it's rare that people will get tied to the actions of their supporters (if they haven't directed their supporters to engage in certain behavior). If Peterson says "clean your room" and that resonates with someone who is racist, who the fuck cares? It's not his fault. And if anything JBP might even be able to modify the behaviors of some of these angry kids who did not have a good upbringing.

a lot of pepe

OMG A CARTOON FROG PETERSON DESERVES TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So he clearly has no problem with such things. But he also clearly talks shit about trans people, promoting hatred against them, even if he doesn't say out loud that he hates them. Because he doesn't have to anyway.

Just absolute bullshit. Stop fucking lying. Now it's obvious you don't listen to him. And now you can read his mind?? FFS man...

As for the christchurch shooting: I'm not saying he is directly connected to this or anything, only that nazis like that are influenced by people like JBP. Didn't the guy yell "subscribe to PewDiePie" before he died? Or was it another nazi? It's hard to keep up with so many mass murdering fascists y'know...

lol... you wanna wish death on fuckin PewDiePie now? After the Christchurch massacre NZ's biggest book retailer pulled JBP's "12 Rules" from their online store. I'm not sure for what reason they did it but it was obviously politically-related so I think that's where you're getting these ideas from even if you don't remember that specifically. The funny thing about that is said book retailer was still selling HITLER'S MEIN KAMPF.

Where do I get my news and opinions from? How do you know?

It's not straight from the source that's for damn sure.

And how come you're the only one who knows who's a real racist and who not?

Because I listen to some podcasts that would absolutely make you pee your pants in terrified horror. I actually disagree with a lot of the stuff that they say (they're too racist for me) but unfortunately they also tell a lot of truth as they're not afraid to say what they want to say. So I wish that they wouldn't be so racist but alas I can't control them. I just ignore that shit and listen to the politically-juicy takes that I won't hear anywhere else. So I know who they consider "based" and which commentators they consider "gate-keepers", "Zionists" etc...

Just because some racists disagree with Molyneaux, doesn't mean he isn't one himself and has a racist audience.

I'm sure he has some racist listeners, I'm sure most people do. I don't even like Molyneux that much at at all but I've never heard him say anything explicitly racist. He talks honestly about other races and cultures, you might find the simple act of doing that racist. The KKK donated like $6,000 to Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign and her mentor was a grandmaster in the KKK. Is she also a big fat nazi racist?

there are so many fascist muderers these days that are found to be watching Ben Shapiro, JBP and Stefan Molyneaux videos?
Surely a coincidence!

So many?? Now I'm really starting to get an idea of what media you're exposed to. I've never heard of anyone committing a racist attack IN THE NAME OF BEN SHAPIRO!!!! lol......unless you're talking about IDF soldiers murdering Palestinians?

And last, the carnivore diet. What a bullshit. It is definetly unhealthy to live that way, and defending that stuff just shows how fucking crazy you are.

Well there's plenty of science to back it up, so I'm not sure WHY THAT'S SO CRRRAAAAZZZYYYYYY. Also resorting to insults means you have a shitty argument but I'll let that slide as I can see JPB really gets your jimmies rustlin'

Btw JBP didn't seem to have overcome his depression with this diet after all, did he?

His fucking wife was dying of cancer. Don't be an asshole.

looks like he's full of hatred and rages about women and progressives.

To be fair you sound like you are full of hatred and today's progressives are fuckin' looney tunes.

and now for the meme:

 

[TheLoveBandit]

Wanna give a like for these, but not necessarily all the words.

 

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[JGrimez]

 

[JGrimez]

 

[JGrimez]

(for the record i'm officially denouncing the cartoon frog)

 

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