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CEPS Meme and Satire Megathread v2019

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alasdairm said:
nice try but the cartels don't give a shit about a wall. according to the dea, mexican cartels...:
help me understand how a wall stops, or even impacts that, at all?
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Wow dude, just wow. lol you actually used that talking point.

(can't believe I'm explaining this on a drug harm minimization forum)
Imagine you're a drug trafficker in the south.
Are you going to transport drugs through a port of entry where there's law enforcement, or are you just going to waltz over a massively unmanned border?....and then you wonder why most of the drugs seized are at the points where there are police present??

Shadowmeister said:
Sources?
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https://www.theblaze.com/news/mom-arrested-transgender-activist-misgendered
https://metro.co.uk/2019/01/26/man-interrogated-police-liking-transphobic-tweet-8395224/
 
Point of Entry. Logistically easier to use pre-existing roads and blend in with the crowd.

Vac seal in the gas tank.

Some of us don’t need to IMAGINE, JG. I take it you’ve never dealt or known traffickers/makers/distributors.
 
JGrimez said:
Wow dude, just wow. lol you actually used that talking point.

(can't believe I'm explaining this on a drug harm minimization forum)
Imagine you're a drug trafficker in the south.
Are you going to transport drugs through a port of entry where there's law enforcement, or are you just going to waltz over a massively unmanned border?....and then you wonder why most of the drugs seized are at the points where there are police present??
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i substantiated my position with support from the dea. you often talk about how important it is that we listen to the experts. well, i'd describe the dea as experts in this area.

more experts - u.s. customs and border protection - agree: Fact-checking Trump officials: Most drugs enter US through legal ports of entry, not vast, open border

In their ongoing push for $5.7 billion to expand the border wall, Trump administration officials have repeatedly pointed to the flow of drugs across the southern border as proof that such a wall is needed.

President Donald Trump has used that line. White House press secretary Sarah Sanders has, too.

But an analysis of data from the southern border indicates that the vast majority of narcotics enters through U.S. ports of entry, not the wide swaths of border in between where additional barriers could be erected.

According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection statistics, 90 percent of heroin seized along the border, 88 percent of cocaine, 87 percent of methamphetamine, and 80 percent of fentanyl in the first 11 months of the 2018 fiscal year was caught trying to be smuggled in at legal crossing points.

While those numbers deal only with drugs that are caught, border experts say the data accurately reflect the way drug cartels successfully smuggle narcotics into the country.

Gil Kerlikowske, who headed CBP and the Office of National Drug Control Policy under President Barack Obama, said intelligence received from arrested smugglers and law enforcement partners in Mexico indicate that cartels clearly prefer moving high-profit narcotics through the busy ports of entry because their chances of success are better there.
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Perhaps the best authority on how drugs are smuggled into the U.S. is Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, the Mexican drug lord arrested by Mexican officials in 2016 and later extradited to the U.S.

During his ongoing trial in New York, several of his cartel members have testified that they mostly pushed drugs through U.S. ports of entry, stashing bricks of narcotics in cars, trucks and trains, according to CNN. None of El Chapo's associates has testified that they moved drugs through the open border regions in between those ports.
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alasdair
 
And how would they possibly know how much makes it across undetected?

If you don't want a border wall because it will reduce the availability of drugs you can say so.
 
how would you know?

you've pushed the importance of deferring to border experts on these issues. now we're doing it and it doesn't jive with your assumptions, you're not happy. make your mind up!

alasdair
 
And how would they possibly know how much makes it across undetected?
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How do you possibly know that, either? It makes more sense to listen to the DEA than it does to make assumptions as someone not involved in the whole process.

JGrimez said:
https://www.theblaze.com/news/mom-arrested-transgender-activist-misgendered
https://metro.co.uk/2019/01/26/man-interrogated-police-liking-transphobic-tweet-8395224/
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That's messed up

Anyway I think we're moving too far away from memes in here, and I certainly haven't helped.

(So I'm just gonna try to be funny here which is kinda the point of this thread, no one try to debate these memes please)

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JGrimez said:
https://www.theblaze.com/news/mom-arrested-transgender-activist-misgendered
https://metro.co.uk/2019/01/26/man-interrogated-police-liking-transphobic-tweet-8395224/
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both sources don't provide the actual material those people got legal problems for. if those tweets were simply "freely speaking their minds", why don't those tabloids quote exactly what was said? my guess is that if it warranted police action, it was probably hateful direct personal harrasment. I tried a bit to search for the actual material relevant in the first article and only thing I found were tabloids and right wing media, none of which provided the information of what was actually said. why not if those tweets were so harmless? also none tried to maybe get the perspective of the trandps person, only those of one side. not convincing in my opinion.
 
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