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CE&P social thread: why do the people I disagree with hate freedom so much?

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really? I had an older profile and my beginnings here were at the focus forums, particularly OD. Those forums + BDD and ADD are very useful.

Well, Barack Obama is a smoker himself, as was former Speaker of the House John Boner. You're welcome to load them on a catapult if you want.

There's a lot of other dangerous stuff out there to breathe in, but it's a shame everybody is only pointing their fingers at tobacco. People in Rhode Island pay a whopping $3.50 in state taxes in addition to the federal $1.01 tax per pack for a total of 4.51 per pack! Isn't that enough?
 
^i like the new location you got there l2r ;)
/thanks for having brought that up in S&T, i'm through the 1st third of it right now, fucking.awesome.read.
 
^so conceptually dense and funny too. amazing writer. bloody intimidating to any writing ambition i might have! =D

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really? I had an older profile and my beginnings here were at the focus forums, particularly OD. Those forums + BDD and ADD are very useful.
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yes very useful. i just find no point or pleasure in entering any discussion about chems. the topic itself is as boring as batshit to me.

Well, Barack Obama is a smoker himself, as was former Speaker of the House John Boner. You're welcome to load them on a catapult if you want.
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My wife was a smoker when we met, normally it's a dealbreaker.

There's a lot of other dangerous stuff out there to breathe in, but it's a shame everybody is only pointing their fingers at tobacco. People in Rhode Island pay a whopping $3.50 in state taxes in addition to the federal $1.01 tax per pack for a total of 4.51 per pack! Isn't that enough?
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i pay particular attention to smokes because of their control over people, and how it affects those around them. imagine if smack was legal, and somehow when one person shoots up, everyone in the room gets a minute dose. now take most of the pleasure out of it, and make it substantially more toxic/poisonous. it's such a ludicrous drug. and people actually pay money for it.

you ask if it is enough, i say no. people can always choose to quit. by choosing not to quit, you get all that comes with it, tax and all.

i like the proposed law to gradually phase out legality of ciggies, where anyone born after a certain year (the youngest year to buy them at the time of the law passing) can't buy them. it's one way to do it without reducing the freedom for current addicts to engage in their retardation.
 
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^so conceptually dense and funny too. amazing writer. bloody intimidating to any writing ambition i might have! =D
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for cereal. have been rushing right back to it anytime i have an hr since i saw you reco it the other day(well, since i noticed that post..). the singularity is something that's piqued my interest a bit lately anyways and i needed some fiction badly, so...yeah thanks again :]
 
Ive come to start viewing my relationship with money, and indeed how I view other peoples individual relationship with money, in a very different way. The basic idea is money has a different value to each and every person depending on what they do to earn money, and how much money they make for their labor.

People view money very differently depending on how much they make and how comfortable a life it affords them. I use to acronym HOLAT (hours of labor after taxes) to measure a persons buying power, and I see it as a good barometer to measure the person/money relationship.

For instance, I make about 11$/hour. An average lunch for me costs about $5.50, or .5 HOLAT since I pay very little in taxes. A person who makes 100$/hour might spend 10$ on a meal on average, equaling .1 HOLAT per meal (or slightly more considering they probably pay more in taxes).

Someone in China may only make 5$ an hour, but the cost of living there is much lower, so in essence they have more buying power than I do even though I make more than them. On the same line of thought, when I was a kid and I had a 5 dollar a week allowance for doing chores, 5$ was incredibly valuable and I would be loathe to spend any amount of money.

This way of thinking has led to me to start measuring everything that I buy in terms of HOLAT instead of dollars, and estimating how much HOLAT others spend when they buy certain things and what exactly it means to them to spend that money as far as time invested.

Kinda random, but I thought i'd just jot this down as some food for thought.
 
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Thanks to care and his enlightening thoughts on money I've decided to go ahead with my dream of moving to China. If I'm lucky maybe Foxconn will hire me!
 
^ If you get bored working, I hear they have these awesome circus nets around the building that you can dive into. Sounds like a fun time to me!
 
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