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Cannabis + GBL - first time combo - Understanding the universe

Choice

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Last night a had very interesting experience, probably the most interesting experience in my life so far. Sorry if this will be hard to understand, but I tried to write as good as I can.

It was friday evening, and we decided to smoke some weed. I took my premeasured 2ml. bottle of GBL(ugly stuff, hope to convert it to GHB someday). I tried this substance few times before, and it was quite nice. I heard it should combine nicely with cannabis, and wanted to try this combo. My friends decided to drive to some interesting place near water power plant. When we got there, it was almost dark and I was not quite happy to smoke weed in this kind of place: "What I'm doing here? Why I'm doing this? This could be a bad trip, etc etc...". As you see, my set and setting wasn't quite perfect. Damn, I said myself, this could be nice trip, why I'm so nervous.

I took few decent hits of smoke and world started to change, as it always does with cannabis. I'm not very experienced with smoking weed, did it maybe 10 times before, and was really impressed with it's power to alter my consciousness. It looks like my brain starts to work with 300% power, thoughts are sharp and concentrated. The only bad thing that I cannot escape from my self negative image and overanalysis. It always drags with me like a shadow, and it makes me hard to concentrate over everyday things.

So cannabis started to work and I lost within my own mind: "It is good what I'm experiencing right now? Should I be happy now? It's a good trip? Damn, what I'm thinking about, these thoughts are negative, I don't need them... But I cannot escape...It's a loop". Sometimes I was able to run away from this and started to thinking more clearly, but it was not enough. I mixed my GBL with bottle of juice and started drinking about 2/3 of this stuff. It's pretty easy to overdose with GBL, so I decided to leave some. Soon I forgot about taking GBL, it was somehow not important to me at this time.

As always on weed I started to analyze everything. I imagined being a huge mechanism of thoughts. It's hard to describe, it's even hard to remember what I was really thinking. It looks like when you are sober, your mind isn't powerful enough to process these memories, so you simply do not remember them. I was thinking about myself like a huge mechanism, being given chance to look of my insights, I could see every part of me from insight. It was a chance for a few hours to look inside the mechanism of my body and soul. I was impressed how complex human being can be, so complex that it's completely not possible to understand how it works. Our minds simply isn't powerful enough. All we can do is to learn and understand small parts of our complex world. However my mind wasn't completely clear, my concentration was jumping, this was very annoying. Then something happened, probably GBL started to hit me. I started to thinking about universe, something about what we are, why do we exist. How does the universe look like? My concentration didn't jumped at this time and started to thinking deeper:

"Can I find the universal answer? How could I explain everything?"

Then simple answer hit me: "everything". It's so easy.

Even child can understand this. The problem that i'm not a child, my mind is polluted with everyday problems. And now I understood some fundamental things. Universe could be EVERYTHING. We are just fluctuations of mattery/energy, we are living in this logical world, we have named everything: sun, earth, universe, energy, mattery, atoms, electrons, quarks, strings, why there should be any limits? Our physical and emotional universe is just tiny part of endless possibilities. There could be something more, there could be anything and everything, there can be another world, another universe, with other physical laws and even without physical laws, with logic or without logic. I felt ecstatic. I found answer to all my questions. There was no need to fear. I could find answer to all my fears, I found a weapon against my depression. I started thinking: "It's so nice, maybe this is a lifechanging experience? No it can't. Why? It can!! Why I'm always thinking so negative? It can be a lifechanging experience!! Its so simple and so beautiful. Everything is possible. I can wake up next morning and live with my depression for the rest of my life. It is really possible. But why it should be like that? It's also possible that I'm having lifechanging experience right now, and there is a chance that I will wake up next morning and be ultimately happy for the rest of my life?"

It seems like we are building to many limits to ourselves. These limits often are only illusions. Everything can exist, we have endless possibilities. There are always something more. And what if all these ideas are wrong? I do accept that they could be wrong. Damn, how do we define "right" or "wrong"? I have just found my own universe and it's right to me, it just one of the many "right" universes, because everything is possible. Maybe I'm the only men on the earth thinking like this right now. Everyone and everything is important and unique.

I felt self confident. I understood that I'm just a human being, with all my limits and fears. And I accepted everything with understanding. The rest time of my trip I spent talking with friends, laughing, and feeling usual cannabis effects. But something was already different, there was a peace inside of me. After hours elapsed from the beginning of my trip and I took the rest of juice with GBL, but didn't noticed any change later. I was simply feeling good.

We came back home, and I fall a sleep hoping that everything is somehow changed forever. And now I woke up this morning and everything is still right :) And I still hope that everything could be right, now I believe that everything is possible. Maybe I will woke up next morning feeling terrible, and I accept this, I am happy right now :)
 
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Great report!
I found your thoughts very interesting, thanks for the post. :)
 
Choice said:

As always on weed I started to analyze everything. I imagined being a huge mechanism of thoughts.

Cannabis never fails to produce the most incredible and out there ideas and philosophies, they're not called stoner tangents for nothing.

Everyone and everything is important and unique

Very true, but the difficult part is helping others achieve the same understanding. You can't force opinions, and getting someone to realise that doesn't happen overnight. (which I have to say, sucks)

Do you think you'll try this combination again? I wonder if you'll find it necessary, now you seem to have achieved this state of realisation..
 
Re: Re: Cannabis + GBL - first time combo - Understanding the universe

Mean Girl said:
Do you think you'll try this combination again? I wonder if you'll find it necessary, now you seem to have achieved this state of realisation..

Actually, after some time has passed this experience feels some kind of blurred. I remember everything, except this wonderful feeling. Few days after the experience every time I thought about this I started to feel very good. And now my everday life took over it. Maybe my sober mind isn't powerful enough, or to lazy to feel it.

Cannabis shows me how clear my thoughts can be, but once it's influence is over, I have to clean my mind by myself. "Sober" thinking is inert enough to whitstand most influences.

Anyway, I didn't loose everything, I believe this will stay with me forewer. My horizons is much wider now. I think I'll try this combination again after some time, actually MDMA + Cannabis combo looks very interesting too. And for now, there are many other things for clearing thougts, meditation for example.
 
Good report.

For myself, I have done this combo a few times and never liked it, because the weed always counteracted the gbl, leaving a dizzy high with less g euphoria.

I have read that THC stimulates dopamine (indirectly but it does), and G supresses it. I learned this after the g+weed combos i had done, and it made sense.
 
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