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cannabis breeding Is out of control ! the road to gentic blandness has arrived !
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nekointheclouds
Bluelight Crew
Not if its done in a controlled environments where the breeders know the specific properties of diff strains and how to combine them wisely. Different strains are bred together, sometimes bred and crossed multiple ways, in an effort to enhance or reduse certain effects of the weed. Much of this has to do with the balance of THC vs. CBD
check it:
http://www.mmmfaq.com/thc-cbd/
check it:
http://www.mmmfaq.com/thc-cbd/
Artificial Emotion
Bluelighter
No I don't, but I am concerned about the lack of biodiversity in the cannabis gene pool. The best way to combat that is through genetic preservation of landrace strains indigenous to different local areas. We need a cannabis seed vault like the Svalbard Global Seed Vault for agricultural food crops in Norway.
nekointheclouds
Bluelight Crew
Something tells me the smart stoners and growers of this world already do.^^^
Artificial Emotion
Bluelighter
Unfortunately I dare say that that assumption has lead to the loss of many strains already, such as many of the landraces in Jamaica. Whilst it is true people don't do it nearly as often as would be ideal.
nekointheclouds
Bluelight Crew
Very good point there A.E.
I certainly dont think your average pot farmer has an in depth seed vault. But there have been alot of more scientifically minded pot farmers popping up in the last 10 years. People with real botany degrees and labs where medical grade cannabis is researched. I'd think maybe some of those people and places would have a seed vault of some sort.
I certainly dont think your average pot farmer has an in depth seed vault. But there have been alot of more scientifically minded pot farmers popping up in the last 10 years. People with real botany degrees and labs where medical grade cannabis is researched. I'd think maybe some of those people and places would have a seed vault of some sort.
Livinginthealps
Bluelighter
You raise a good point. I personally do not like the direction cannabis breeding is moving.(or has moved).
As for the seed vault like the one you mentioned for vegi's does exist in circles of growers. Up here in the emerald triangle, landrace genetics and "old school" genetics are still around. They are kept in small circles of growers year after year. I have my own "vault" of landrace genetics. They are the basis for all of my breeding projects. I also keep select genetics that I have acquired from many of northern californias (and rest of the world) best farmers and breeders. You do not see these genetics hit the "streets" as often due to the direction breeding has turned. People are very into the fads of strains now. Look at GSC for example. That is the current fad in the weed industry. It has been around for years and years but, is only taking a liking in recent months.
I know for a fact, that I am not the only person with a landrace and other "old school" or "prized" genetics in a "vault". I have seen a number of them from my elders. They still exist but, you just have to poke around.
As for the seed vault like the one you mentioned for vegi's does exist in circles of growers. Up here in the emerald triangle, landrace genetics and "old school" genetics are still around. They are kept in small circles of growers year after year. I have my own "vault" of landrace genetics. They are the basis for all of my breeding projects. I also keep select genetics that I have acquired from many of northern californias (and rest of the world) best farmers and breeders. You do not see these genetics hit the "streets" as often due to the direction breeding has turned. People are very into the fads of strains now. Look at GSC for example. That is the current fad in the weed industry. It has been around for years and years but, is only taking a liking in recent months.
I know for a fact, that I am not the only person with a landrace and other "old school" or "prized" genetics in a "vault". I have seen a number of them from my elders. They still exist but, you just have to poke around.
Egzoset
Bluelighter
Salutations,
If cannabis is to become a delicacy to be appreciated as with fine wine and tobacco then the THC vs CBD ratio ain't the only item which needs to be explored. I for one wish for bowls full of taste and aroma that won't make me twitch, and why not, Spider Mite resistant genetics as a bonus! Etc...
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If cannabis is to become a delicacy to be appreciated as with fine wine and tobacco then the THC vs CBD ratio ain't the only item which needs to be explored. I for one wish for bowls full of taste and aroma that won't make me twitch, and why not, Spider Mite resistant genetics as a bonus! Etc...
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Artificial Emotion
Bluelighter
You're right, but I think it would be far far better to have the resources and financial backing of an educational establishment with government grants. Individual growers, or even collectives, only have the ability to collect only a fraction of all the land-races available. But it's definitely better than nothing.
By the way, if you're going to save landrace seed it's a good idea to plant the seed every few years and do an open pollination to refresh your seed stock, because even with the best seed storage techniques used by growers they eventually lose their viability.
This year I am doing exactly that with some landraces that are tolerant to the climate in the northern hemisphere - ones from the Himalayas - Garwhali Shiva, Malana, Kumaoni and Nepalese. I'm also using the pollen to cross all the landraces with each other, taking it from a really good male and dusting all the best females of each strain. I can't wait because I get to test out my new pollen bags that I bought last year which prevent pollen from escaping and pollinating other females that you want to use for sinsemilla bud.
By the way, if you're going to save landrace seed it's a good idea to plant the seed every few years and do an open pollination to refresh your seed stock, because even with the best seed storage techniques used by growers they eventually lose their viability.
This year I am doing exactly that with some landraces that are tolerant to the climate in the northern hemisphere - ones from the Himalayas - Garwhali Shiva, Malana, Kumaoni and Nepalese. I'm also using the pollen to cross all the landraces with each other, taking it from a really good male and dusting all the best females of each strain. I can't wait because I get to test out my new pollen bags that I bought last year which prevent pollen from escaping and pollinating other females that you want to use for sinsemilla bud.
Egzoset
Bluelighter
Salutations Artificial Emotion,
It's been clear to me for quite some while now that it would be short-sighted to let "Land Races" extinguish because of variable/unstable economic considerations. But since money drives human activity a great deal i suppose innovation will have to result from the dynamics of demand & offer mostly, which means i'd want the scientific community to be involved into genetics conservation indeed - and even beyond!... Commercial ventures would be in a good position to deal with consumer expectations as a result of better proximity, IMO. So, when buying those expensive autofem seeds i still feel like i put money where my mouth is, as an anglo-saxon would say it, right? Yet, conservation work is required and that's not going to improve much under prohibition...
Well, today is April 17 and for me that's the perfect target date for doing some horticulture behind a window... The prospect of seeing parasites killing my plants before they get a chance to bloom is all that stops me, as much as i enjoyed watching it grow it was devastating being confronted to such a dead end.
To me it doesn't really matter at that stage what's the genetic if one can find beauty and serenity while getting busy (and/or buzzed!) with a nice hobby as that.
It's been clear to me for quite some while now that it would be short-sighted to let "Land Races" extinguish because of variable/unstable economic considerations. But since money drives human activity a great deal i suppose innovation will have to result from the dynamics of demand & offer mostly, which means i'd want the scientific community to be involved into genetics conservation indeed - and even beyond!... Commercial ventures would be in a good position to deal with consumer expectations as a result of better proximity, IMO. So, when buying those expensive autofem seeds i still feel like i put money where my mouth is, as an anglo-saxon would say it, right? Yet, conservation work is required and that's not going to improve much under prohibition...
Well, today is April 17 and for me that's the perfect target date for doing some horticulture behind a window... The prospect of seeing parasites killing my plants before they get a chance to bloom is all that stops me, as much as i enjoyed watching it grow it was devastating being confronted to such a dead end.
To me it doesn't really matter at that stage what's the genetic if one can find beauty and serenity while getting busy (and/or buzzed!) with a nice hobby as that.