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Cannabis addiction soars as drug gets stronger
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mad_scientist
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Ok well from the European monitoring centre for drugs and drug abuse website;
http://stats06.emcdda.europa.eu/en/elements/ppptab05a-en.html
The potency of cannabis resin in the UK, in 2004, was tested at between 1% and 12% pure THC with an average of 3.4%.
So for this skunk to be 25x stronger than cannabis resin it would have a THC content of between 25% and 300% THC, with an average of 85% pure.
I must say I am rather impressed by the breeding skills of those skunk growers in the UK, especially seeing as the strongest skunk tested by the EMCDDA was 34% pure!
http://stats06.emcdda.europa.eu/en/elements/ppptab05a-en.html
The potency of cannabis resin in the UK, in 2004, was tested at between 1% and 12% pure THC with an average of 3.4%.
So for this skunk to be 25x stronger than cannabis resin it would have a THC content of between 25% and 300% THC, with an average of 85% pure.
I must say I am rather impressed by the breeding skills of those skunk growers in the UK, especially seeing as the strongest skunk tested by the EMCDDA was 34% pure!
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http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=295606rulerofthecosmos said:
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It wasn't my fault guys, the skunk made me do it.
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+1:Ddrew345 said:
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Well, I used to live in the UK and it was a fairly peacable place. Every now and then I go back and get the full experience of a Saturday night in a "quiet" provincial town. Think Shrewsbury, Worcester, Chester etc.
Go out for a stroll at about 10 in the evening you will find people sitting on the pavement in their spew, lurching across the street shouting obscenities, crowds of young women in lurid clothing staggering from one venue to another.
By eleven o'clock, there will be glass on the streets and the cops out stopping the fights.
What's going on here? Cannabis psychosis? The mobs awash with illegal chemicals?
No this is the good old British booze-up, whereby people are encouraged to drink themselves silly every Saturday on the legal products of a powerful commercial lobby.
Make our streets safe, ban booze!!!
Go out for a stroll at about 10 in the evening you will find people sitting on the pavement in their spew, lurching across the street shouting obscenities, crowds of young women in lurid clothing staggering from one venue to another.
By eleven o'clock, there will be glass on the streets and the cops out stopping the fights.
What's going on here? Cannabis psychosis? The mobs awash with illegal chemicals?
No this is the good old British booze-up, whereby people are encouraged to drink themselves silly every Saturday on the legal products of a powerful commercial lobby.
Make our streets safe, ban booze!!!
bagera tomorrow
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ahahahaha that's fucking retarded
Harmreducer
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About the Cannabis Scare article in The Independent on Sunday.
The fact that more and more youngster are looking for help because of problems related to cannabis consumption is (at least partly) because of prohibition it selve. The presure on teens to go into treatment can rise enormously ones you're caught by your parents, school or the police. A lot of this youngster go low profile for a while and play the good son/daughter.
Of course, besides this there are young people who really get in to trouble. Prohibition didn't work for them either...
How come that, in spite of prohibition, these kids can get to buy Marihuana so easily? Don't dealers ask for identity cards when they sell their dope?
In society as a whole we've seen a rise in the number of people that are suffering of psychiatric and psychological problems. Can it be that also Cannabis consumers follow this trend?
Also it's only human to look for external reasons if things go wrong. It's easier to point at peoples late cannabis use to explain psychological and psychiatric problems instead of looking at the often broad range of internal and environmental factors that came along with the cannabis use.
Public opinion makers and politicians now do as if cannabis is (and has to stay) prohibited because of the possible negative consequences for peoples health (psychosis). But if we'd make registration of patients in psychiatry and the prevalence of preceding alcohol use, you'll see that also alcohol can cause this kinds of danger as well.
Drugs aren't prohibited because of they're dangerous. If this was the case then alcohol and tobacco would have been prohibited to.
Public health (and crime) is the most named reason by specialists if you ask them why we shouldn't prohibit alcohol. What's the difference with Cannabis? (MY CULTURE FIRST!)
There is a relation between the (young) age that people start using drugs and the chance on possible negative consequences later on. Why is it that we keep on ignoring this fact by still not regulating the market for adults? Regulating the drug market for adults will shrink the illegal market wich will slow down the spread of drugs among minors. Age limits in a regulated market for adults will be the second front that slows down the accessibility of drugs by youngsters.
We need to regulate the market for adults in order to be able to protect the children.
The artikel also referred to the constant rise in the amount of thc in Cannabis plants in the past few years. The high thc level is referred to as a cause to psychosis and other mental problems. This so called rise in thc level of course is a consequence of our Cannabis policies that makes production and distribution illegal. There is no way that you can influence the black market because by installing prohibition you gave away your means of controle. (and then new speak by calling the illegal drugs “controlled substances”!)
One points to the rising amount of thc in Cannabis and then use this fact to plee for keeping Cannabis illegal. To understand he who can understand. This is the world up side down.
It's this kind of curved reasoning that's on the basis of what we currently have on drug laws and drug reality. The politicians, scientists, opinion makers and policy makers who now give the impression that because of the new scientific proof we should intensify zero-Cannabis policies are out of line. They lack the will or the intelligence to interpreted reality as it is. Therefore they aren't capable to do what is so urgently needed.
Cannabis Scare?
I'm scared too you know. I have two little kids and I'd like to see this problem solved by the time that they get 12-13 years old.
This gives us some time to work on it. (about 5 years)
Stijn Goossens
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this is the article we talk about
The article in The Independent on Sunday is what we call
100%
Prohibitionist drug war propaganda.
The article in The Independent on Sunday is what we call
100%
Prohibitionist drug war propaganda.
The fact that more and more youngster are looking for help because of problems related to cannabis consumption is (at least partly) because of prohibition it selve. The presure on teens to go into treatment can rise enormously ones you're caught by your parents, school or the police. A lot of this youngster go low profile for a while and play the good son/daughter.
Of course, besides this there are young people who really get in to trouble. Prohibition didn't work for them either...
How come that, in spite of prohibition, these kids can get to buy Marihuana so easily? Don't dealers ask for identity cards when they sell their dope?
In society as a whole we've seen a rise in the number of people that are suffering of psychiatric and psychological problems. Can it be that also Cannabis consumers follow this trend?
Also it's only human to look for external reasons if things go wrong. It's easier to point at peoples late cannabis use to explain psychological and psychiatric problems instead of looking at the often broad range of internal and environmental factors that came along with the cannabis use.
Public opinion makers and politicians now do as if cannabis is (and has to stay) prohibited because of the possible negative consequences for peoples health (psychosis). But if we'd make registration of patients in psychiatry and the prevalence of preceding alcohol use, you'll see that also alcohol can cause this kinds of danger as well.
Drugs aren't prohibited because of they're dangerous. If this was the case then alcohol and tobacco would have been prohibited to.
Public health (and crime) is the most named reason by specialists if you ask them why we shouldn't prohibit alcohol. What's the difference with Cannabis? (MY CULTURE FIRST!)
There is a relation between the (young) age that people start using drugs and the chance on possible negative consequences later on. Why is it that we keep on ignoring this fact by still not regulating the market for adults? Regulating the drug market for adults will shrink the illegal market wich will slow down the spread of drugs among minors. Age limits in a regulated market for adults will be the second front that slows down the accessibility of drugs by youngsters.
We need to regulate the market for adults in order to be able to protect the children.
The artikel also referred to the constant rise in the amount of thc in Cannabis plants in the past few years. The high thc level is referred to as a cause to psychosis and other mental problems. This so called rise in thc level of course is a consequence of our Cannabis policies that makes production and distribution illegal. There is no way that you can influence the black market because by installing prohibition you gave away your means of controle. (and then new speak by calling the illegal drugs “controlled substances”!)
One points to the rising amount of thc in Cannabis and then use this fact to plee for keeping Cannabis illegal. To understand he who can understand. This is the world up side down.
It's this kind of curved reasoning that's on the basis of what we currently have on drug laws and drug reality. The politicians, scientists, opinion makers and policy makers who now give the impression that because of the new scientific proof we should intensify zero-Cannabis policies are out of line. They lack the will or the intelligence to interpreted reality as it is. Therefore they aren't capable to do what is so urgently needed.
Cannabis Scare?
I'm scared too you know. I have two little kids and I'd like to see this problem solved by the time that they get 12-13 years old.
This gives us some time to work on it. (about 5 years)
Stijn Goossens
HaRdCOREhARMREdUCER
DarkCode
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Found this on Cannabis "Psychosis" http://www.priory.com/psych/cannabis.htm
Its called hunger, don't need a big word for the moron police and policy makers out there to sound smarter. People already know that sometimes smoking for a very long (and heavy) time then paranoia can set in, but the number of people who experience any sort of paranoia is very judgemental, and subjective. You can't make an opinion of fact when the fact's are split across the board and every time you ask an expert the opinion some sort of censor is in place to make sure the truth behind their "slanderous" language is hidden.
Alcohol, tobacco, and various pharmaceuticals are at risk for greater side-effects, hell, caffeine causes more unrest and distress towards one's mental state of perception. You want to start talking about the comparision of harm from marijuana, if you can call dropping weed harmful, because from my stance, anal leakage and risk of five hour erections from various pharmaceuticals is more extreme of uneasement for me not getting so stoned I spend too much money at the local sandwhich shop, or on to much ice cream.
The real question regarding cannibas use isn't regarding the police educating the public, but rather the police being educated themselves. You can't have a justice system centered around prosecuting one's actions when their ignorance is enough to warrant dismissal of charges if this world was truly fair. You can't say someone did something without knowing what it was they did wrong, and the stance on cannibas is really what went wrong, because there seems to be nothing but failed insight into turning Nazi propaganda into 21st century Drug War bullshit that only makes substance use more wide spread, cheaper, and of higher quality with harm levels naturally leveling thanks to users policing their own supplies, not the government.
Its called hunger, don't need a big word for the moron police and policy makers out there to sound smarter. People already know that sometimes smoking for a very long (and heavy) time then paranoia can set in, but the number of people who experience any sort of paranoia is very judgemental, and subjective. You can't make an opinion of fact when the fact's are split across the board and every time you ask an expert the opinion some sort of censor is in place to make sure the truth behind their "slanderous" language is hidden.
Alcohol, tobacco, and various pharmaceuticals are at risk for greater side-effects, hell, caffeine causes more unrest and distress towards one's mental state of perception. You want to start talking about the comparision of harm from marijuana, if you can call dropping weed harmful, because from my stance, anal leakage and risk of five hour erections from various pharmaceuticals is more extreme of uneasement for me not getting so stoned I spend too much money at the local sandwhich shop, or on to much ice cream.
The real question regarding cannibas use isn't regarding the police educating the public, but rather the police being educated themselves. You can't have a justice system centered around prosecuting one's actions when their ignorance is enough to warrant dismissal of charges if this world was truly fair. You can't say someone did something without knowing what it was they did wrong, and the stance on cannibas is really what went wrong, because there seems to be nothing but failed insight into turning Nazi propaganda into 21st century Drug War bullshit that only makes substance use more wide spread, cheaper, and of higher quality with harm levels naturally leveling thanks to users policing their own supplies, not the government.
realm
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rulerofthecosmos said:
I dont think that much money is tied up in keeping weed illegal...more money is tied up in keeping harder drygs (ex: class a drugs) illegal. think about it...the longer someone is in jail the longer they need to be kept watch over.