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Candyflipping advice?
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Thatsba pretty good dose to start with IMO. My first flip was 300mcg and 140mg of MDMA and was insanely amazing.
Last flip was 400mcg and 180mg followed by a 100mg redose which was honestly too much MDMA so going to bump that down next time.
I can't speak to lower doses but at the 300-400mcg doses you start hallucinating pretty hard after dropping the MDMA. Personally I've always loved it and the visuals are pretty unlike anything else
Last flip was 400mcg and 180mg followed by a 100mg redose which was honestly too much MDMA so going to bump that down next time.
I can't speak to lower doses but at the 300-400mcg doses you start hallucinating pretty hard after dropping the MDMA. Personally I've always loved it and the visuals are pretty unlike anything else
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Timing is a very important factor.
If you take a high dose of LSD and MDMA in a way which will result in the peaks of each chemical being stacked, i.e you dose them at roughly the same time, then you will severely amplify the effects of both drugs and the intensity of the experience will increase somewhat exponentially. It can be very intense and confusing. You would ideally want to take less than your usual dose of each.
If you take the LSD first and then time the MDMA so that it starts working just as the LSD is coming off the peak, then it tends to result in a very hedonistic, beautiful experience with a lot of clarity. Doing it this way, you could generally take whatever your normal/effective/average dose of MDMA is (for me this is 130mg~, it differs), and expect that the chemicals would simply synergise rather than overtly intensify. It depends on the LSD dose, but generally this would be about 3-4 hours after taking the LSD.
It is really very beautiful though. In fact, it's my all time favourite thing. I tend to do it the second way; lose yourself then find yourself. That's the flip.
Enjoy!
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I'm not really well versed on LSD dosing (never known the dose of my blotters), and of course every experience is different. I'm unsure how 200ug would effect you, or even me.
Generally though, the peak of a decent dose of LSD subsides at around the 3-4 hour point, and this is certainly how I do it.
Just only go ahead with the MDMA if you're in the right frame of mind when you get to that stage.
Pretty accurate
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I took 125ug LSD and 200mg of MDMA and it was too much for me. It felt like I couldn't breathe at times and it was just too overwhelming. I'm not too experienced with LSD but I'm very experienced with MDMA. So for me it would have been much better if I did less MDMA cause it was just way too much and I couldn't even enjoy it while I was peaking.
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Just out of interest, how did you time the doses? Did you stack the peaks? It seems that quite a lot of people for some reason seem eager to take the MDMA early, and then find it to be intense.
The following used to be posted on mdma.nu on a candyflip webpage, which is a general summary more on point than anything I could type.
How can I possibly describe how candyflipping has enhanced my life over the years? No words would be sufficient. Done properly, a candyflip captures all the profound wonder of LSD, coupled with the confidence, poise, and spiritual opening of MDMA. It is a truly a wonderful gift, but allow me to warn you ahead of time that it's pretty difficult to do right, and requires a lot of planning and forethought, even more than acid does by itself.
Normally one should never try to combine two drugs, especially two as powerful as acid and E. Candyflipping doesn't just refer to the combination of the two; it refer to using them in a staggered method that produces an entirely unique effect that is unlike either of the drugs by themselves. So first of all, never take acid and E at the same time, or even within an hour or two of each other! This will produce a sort of drunken intoxication which you might find fun (or you might find unpleasant, like me), but in either case it does not qualify as candyflipping.
Candyflipping requires that the relative "peak" times of the two drugs (from the 1hr mark to the 3hr mark with E, and from the 1hr mark to the 4h mark with acid) do not overlap. You can theoretically do it in either order, but I (and friends of mine) have always done it with acid first, E later. The most important thing to know, that I have deduced by careful (and sometimes unpleasant) experimentation:
Take your E exactly four (4) hours after taking your acid!
Why is this so important?
Well, if you take your E early (like say, after 3 hours) your acid peak won't be done yet, and the drugs end up sort of fighting for control of your brain. This is not a very fun sensation; you end up feeling lethargic and sort of light-headed. You may come out of it after an hour or two, but you will have missed the "candyflip" and will be just left feeling like you took a lot of drugs, and sometimes slightly spacey depending on the person. (Editor's Note: Not everyone agrees about this; one person sent a comment saying that they don't get much effect doing it this way, but they have a "brilliant" time when they take a low dose of MDMA about 45 minutes before ingesting LSD.)
If you take the E late (say, after 5 hours) you'll get a similar effect as taking your E too early, but probably not as strong. After 45 minutes or so it will clear up and you'll find that you're just rolling from the E, and it's not much like you took two drugs at all, more that you just took one after the other.
Another important thing is dosage. Taking less acid causes it to come on more slowly, and as a result taking your E at the four hour mark may actually be too early. Taking a lot of acid works great as long as you can handle it
With E, you probably want to take a minimal dosage, or else it will just overpower the acid and you'll be rolling (not a bad thing, but you'll miss out on the candyflip). If you have a batch of pills and you normally take 1.5 pills to roll, then probably try either 1.5 or 1 pill. In a nutshell, it's better to err slightly on the side of a low dose than on the side of high.
The Candyflip Effect
I like candyflipping all around better than any other drug (or drug combination) because in many ways it is very close to being sober as far as your mental state, but it allows you to access all the really excellent effects of acid (music sounds great, sense of profoundness, insightfulness) and E (poise, confidence, self-love and love for others) without the downsides (the "confusion" and scariness of acid, the running-around-hugging-everyone effect of E).
The candyflip moment, as I think of it, is about half an hour after you take your E. The acid confusion seems to lift off of you like a heavy fog suddenly dissipating. The room suddenly seems more open (this is very dramatic if you're someplace with a high ceiling). You are suddenly instilled with a sense wonder and awe at the amazing things our world has to offer, a feeling that you have power over your own destiny, and a sense of purpose to do the things that are important to you. And there is an incredible feeling that something profound and important is about to happen.
Watching someone who is in the midst of a successful candyflip is pretty cool, too. Their entire demeanor gains a perfect confidence, without the slightest hint of arrogance. Their skin seems to glow. The eyes are probably the most dramatic: they grow wide and bright, like those of a child, but wiser.
My favorite candyflip activity is looking at a powerful laser and listening to really good trance coming out of big speakers, but that's just me.
Health Stuff
I guess I should mention this since it's going onto this website. Basically, candyflipping is one of the more rigorous drug experiences you can have, especially if you do it at a party. The entire thing lasts a really long time (9 or 10 hours total) and you expend a lot of resources. I make sure to sleep in super late the day before I am going to make a candyflip, and dose myself with lots of vitamins in the previous week. Then I make sure I don't have anything making demands on my time in the next day or two following the candyflip so that I can sleep as much as I need (which usually isn't all that much, but sometimes it is).
So, to summarize - this is a really awesome experience that I would recommend to anyone. Just be sure that you are prepared (both mentally and physically), have a good setting to do it in, have your drugs pretested and in proper dosages. By "pretested" I don't just mean that you've done the EZ-Test on them, I mean that you have tried them before in a controlled environment so that you're not only sure of what they are, but how much you should take. You also should not attempt it until you are fairly familiar with both LSD and MDMA (like, you've used each at least four or five times). And don't forget: four hours! Use a stopwatch so that you do not mistake the proper time to take your E.
Coming back from ego death to find the you that you never knew even existed is really something very special and undervalued.
Think it really depends on experience level with both substances...I did 300 first go and loved it