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Can you shoot 7-hydroxymitragynine?

I agree you cant even sleep a full night on 7-oh even with mgm15 ive only slept till exactly 4 in the morning, 7 oh makes you want to redose to many times in a day. If i do real RX opiates id be good all night. If you are shooting these you are gonna get pill filler material in your veins cause no one is gonna break it down to a pure chemical or even know how.
Yeah I am never addressing a letter to shooting 7-OH. I swear up and down that the construction changed pre-2026. I know a shop that goes around buying any shop's excess unsold material. One week, I had three different Opia 30mg singles packs. One had no expiration dates & no tear slit (very strong, stronger than the other two). One had an expiration date and tear slit (weaker than the 1st). The 3rd, had an expiration date & tear slit (and blew ass). As I remember when the Opia Ultra 60mg came out and they were strong, then all of a sudden they strength fell out the bottom.

I know I have a advanced high opioid tolerance but they weren't pulling that trick on me. From what I read from a testing lab, the older batches had two different types of 7-OH and the newer ones are not showing that compound. All Fentanyl does is keep me up all night with no opioid feeling. I just found a connect of "real #3 H" and then it went grey on me & it took too long to hit me. Real H hits immediately snorting or shooting. Of course a better rush is available shooting, but still snorting real H hit quickly being a highly lipid construction.

Whatever, street drugs are never where it is at and I am done playing games with smoke shops and lying runners. I can't fuck in the nail salon all day, I spend all my profits and won't live long.
 
I swear up and down that the construction changed pre-2026
This is something that's caught my eye recently, tons of folks have been going off about how there was a distinct shift in the subjective qualities of 7-OH around the beginning of 2026 or the end of 2025, and it also correlated to every kratom chemist I know beginning to ignore the importance of inert atmosphere when oxidizing mitragynine. The general hunch is that there's an unexpected synthetic byproduct of oxidizing in these more fast-and-loose conditions, but without mass spec magic to stratify really closely related compounds from one another, it'll be tough to tell. Mitragyna alks aren't going anywhere thankfully.
I know a shop that goes around buying any shop's excess unsold material. One week, I had three different Opia 30mg singles packs. One had no expiration dates & no tear slit (very strong, stronger than the other two). One had an expiration date and tear slit (weaker than the 1st). The 3rd, had an expiration date & tear slit (and blew ass). As I remember when the Opia Ultra 60mg came out and they were strong, then all of a sudden they strength fell out the bottom.
That shop sounds sketchy as fuck, is there a reason you never just purchased crystal 7-OH? I'd expect that working with it would be far cheaper, easier to control and keep logs of, etc.

Speaking of which, did you have any of these samples analyzed? If so please share what was found.
I know I have a advanced high opioid tolerance but they weren't pulling that trick on me. From what I read from a testing lab, the older batches had two different types of 7-OH and the newer ones are not showing that compound.
All Fentanyl does is keep me up all night with no opioid feeling.
I'm assuming we're talking street fent, you ever have any tested through a testing facility? I'd love to know which fentalogs are most prone to stimulation, the concept of isolating the stimulation from opioid-dominant scaffolds is super neat. I can use oxycodone like a stimulant, I'm assuming you're similar in that regard?

I wonder if the "second type" of 7-OH you're referring to is related to the difference in using inert conditions, idk just a hunch. The idea though that there's some sort of conspiracy out there to fool somebody who already has an established tolerance is sort of silly to support, were you doing blind trials on people who don't use frequently? That's the only way I've been able to gain any accuracy/precision whatsoever surrounding drug responses personally, if I tested everything on myself I'd think the most ideal dose of LSD is ~20 tabs for example. Brains all vary in exceptionally weird ways, a large part of my fascination with pharmacology stems from not just the compounds, but the plethora of ways those compounds can land on the human brain.
I just found a connect of "real #3 H" and then it went grey on me & it took too long to hit me. Real H hits immediately snorting or shooting. Of course a better rush is available shooting, but still snorting real H hit quickly being a highly lipid construction.
H always took like, sub-15 seconds for everybody including myself also, when you say it went grey though do you mean it literally changed colors at some point? If so, under what conditions?
Whatever, street drugs are never where it is at and I am done playing games with smoke shops and lying runners. I can't fuck in the nail salon all day, I spend all my profits and won't live long.
I completely agree with this sentiment, it's why I really think that building the habit of saving samples of batches for analysis is important.
 
Yeah I am never addressing a letter to shooting 7-OH. I swear up and down that the construction changed pre-2026. I know a shop that goes around buying any shop's excess unsold material. One week, I had three different Opia 30mg singles packs. One had no expiration dates & no tear slit (very strong, stronger than the other two). One had an expiration date and tear slit (weaker than the 1st). The 3rd, had an expiration date & tear slit (and blew ass). As I remember when the Opia Ultra 60mg came out and they were strong, then all of a sudden they strength fell out the bottom.

I know I have a advanced high opioid tolerance but they weren't pulling that trick on me. From what I read from a testing lab, the older batches had two different types of 7-OH and the newer ones are not showing that compound. All Fentanyl does is keep me up all night with no opioid feeling. I just found a connect of "real #3 H" and then it went grey on me & it took too long to hit me. Real H hits immediately snorting or shooting. Of course a better rush is available shooting, but still snorting real H hit quickly being a highly lipid construction.

Whatever, street drugs are never where it is at and I am done playing games with smoke shops and lying runners. I can't fuck in the nail salon all day, I spend all my profits and won't live long.
Why would it have a tear slit? I'm assuming u mean an actual physical slit like someone cut it.
 
I would absolutely recommend getting it as crystal, there are a variety of subreddits pertaining to 7-OH-Mitragynine which can help you find sources. It's extremely cost-effective and hits in a harder, faster, cleaner fashion in my opinion. We can't share sources here on BL, but my advice would definitely be to get a cheap scale from a smokeshop and then order some crystal, or "powder" 7-OH as people tend to call it.
Is crystal or powder 7-oh Water soluble?
 
Is crystal or powder 7-oh Water soluble?
definitely not, though it is more soluble than regular Mitragynine. If it could be made into a salt maybe but as the freebase it is virtually insoluble, which is why I said early on that shooting 7-OH is probably a terrible idea for multiple reasons. I did smoke it though, and while it works, its literally a great way to burn up your stash. The bioavailabity is terrible and it's highly compulsive. I do not recommend doing that either.
 
I did smoke it though, and while it works, its literally a great way to burn up your stash. The bioavailabity is terrible and it's highly compulsive.

It's the most euphoric way of using it?

Is it a smooth experience, ie., the act of smoking it? How's the taste?
 
It's the most euphoric way of using it?

Is it a smooth experience, ie., the act of smoking it? How's the taste?
The taste wasn't bad imo or I probably wouldn't have gone thru 20grams this way.. The material melts and bubbles and eventually chars.
Euphoric? Yeah I suppose thats the term I would use. Like smoking most things, you feel it before you even exhale.. so near instantaneous.
 
Is it a smooth experience, ie., the act of smoking it? How's the taste?
Tastes like when you put it right on your tongue, and it's about as easy to burn as DMT if not a little more sensitive, so allow yourself to waste some getting the torch technique down. Helps to sandwich it in weed like you would DMT. Aim for it to juuuuuuust start to melt, and THEN apply suction to the piece you're smoking through, as melting points decrease when under vacuum pressure like that. I used to also put my grinder over the top of the bowl to act as a sort of carb like you might place on a dab nail.

The taste wasn't bad imo or I probably wouldn't have gone thru 20grams this way.. The material melts and bubbles and eventually chars.
Euphoric? Yeah I suppose thats the term I would use. Like smoking most things, you feel it before you even exhale.. so near instantaneous.
I'm glad to see a fellow BL regular here has been vaporizing this. What's your usual technique, and has it also consistently produced nods for you too? It reminds me heavily of when I'd smoked Dilaudid as a teenager.
 
Helps to sandwich it in weed like you would DMT. Aim for it to juuuuuuust start to melt, and THEN apply suction to the piece you're smoking through, as melting points decrease when under vacuum pressure like that.
yeah this 100%. I never tried putting it in a fb pipe but I imagine that would help conserve.


What's your usual technique, and has it also consistently produced nods for you too?
Basically as you described. Sandwhich in weed, and just get the weed burning and use the ember to smoke the 7. I don't know if I've ever gotten to a true Nod state, tho I am very opioid naive. Aside from vicodin once when I was a teenager and then when french girlfriend left me a bunch of codeine pills, I've only used kratomaloids. This not counting the time homie slipped me some fentanyl when we were smoking speed.

I do know the first time I made 7, and pressed it into pills, 7mg was all I needed and I was high as fuck almost to a trippy point. But no I was always present.
 
kratomaloids
I love this term, "Mitragyna alkaloids" is a bit of a mouthful.
I do know the first time I made 7, and pressed it into pills, 7mg was all I needed and I was high as fuck almost to a trippy point. But no I was always present.
Rose bengal I assume? Ozone is the other guess I'd have. We should talk about the art of tableting some time on a private channel dude. I'm notoriously ass at it, but want to press my own methylliberine, theobromine and caffeine mixes and not have them come out as terribly as mine used to hahaha.
 
you would have to inject so much of it after its filtered with a wheel filter of blue sterifilt that it wouldnt be worth your time since there wouldnt be a rush like is chased when invecting other substances and if you did by the time the drip ran out or you used 10 or moe pluss mil barrels to inject it through a butterfly line the it would be a joke #notharmreduction
 
kratominoids makes sense

gabapentinoids --- screw you guys. Than again I dont know from a chemstry level but it felt like -- ehh we wanna schedule these weird things we invented cuz we didnt wanna give ppl scheduled drugs. The logic is flawless if so

'non-benzodiazepenes' also would fall into that category of --- uhh categories? lol
 
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