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Can you evaporate the water out of diluted ghb?

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RobbyG

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I know how to make GHB but I've lost my gbl connect so I was wondering if you can heat up diluted ghb to evaporate the water resulting in pure g
 
raybeez said:
Its more responsible (harder to slip into ppls drinks without them noticing.
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That's all media hype, it happens no more than rapists slip alprazolam in other peoples drinks, the vast majority of DFSAs are all done with alcohol. Also given the water solubility of GHB it is really no less difficult to put a powder in someones drink or a liquid, the powder would go into solution, even in a cold drink, almost immediately.
 
Thanks, whats the average amount of powder you need for a pretty strong buzz, maybe like close to carping?
 
Why not just boil it down and slowly work up your dose?

NaGHB is sticky stuff.. I used to make MgGHB for some dude who wanted it in solid form, really beats me why you'd rather have the solid but whatever.

O yeah, the NaGHB is indeed hard to disolve after it solidified. This sounds like a good thing, but it's not.. It is really disgusting and you want to flush it down fast, not that easy with a fat sticky chunk.

You could also solidify and add water to make a standardized solution.
 
My friend obtained some GHB at one point, and evaporated it to get accurate dosing. He said that within a few days, if left out, it would turn into a puddle again. I think this is a substance that you need to keep in a dry, airtight, container in order to keep it as a solid.
 
Mg-GHB can get users of significant quantities running for the toilet, K-GHB is no good for your thermolyte balance and bp either, and probably your kidneys as well. A mix of K and Na of 1:2 IIRC was suggested but thats only ok for your electrolytes and not the kidneys or blood pressure.
Ca-GHB seems like a good one to me, anyone care to say why that's no good assuming someone would go through the trouble of making something else than Na or K?

Precautions for excessive users are perhaps more appropriate in countries where GBL is available to purchase, people can get too big quantities and get a nasty habit going. Been there in the past, glad I came out as good as unharmed.

You can indeed concentrate GHB to just about the saturation point then pour it out into a pyrex dish. It helps to set it in the oven at a near-boiling temperature to get out more water, but some will stay in.
You would need a vacuum-dessicant exsiccator to get powder GHB, but it doesn't really serve a purpose.

The stuff is indeed very hygroscopic, IMO the best way to dose it is never weigh it because you don't know how hydrated it is, just make a solution that is just less than saturated - it can be a bit annoying if you don't have experience with this but you can check the viscosity if you do. If it gets flaky add a little more water and warm it up if it doesn't dissolve. Then let cool down to see if you are finished.
At that point a dose will be around 4 ml but don't just take that... take like 2 ml and work your way up until you know whats what.
G that has an ideal concentration i.e. saturated but not supersaturated can have a dose of 3-3.5 ml.
 
you cant just keep it in its liquid form after the water has been evaporated and just do that straight?
 
I'm not sure what you're asking but I assume it's about diluted GHB meaning there is excess water, so the concentration is lower than saturated.

You can evaporate the water with heat and it will stay a liquid up to the saturation point, if you go over that (concentration-wise), so under it in terms of water-content it will go clumpy or solidify as a whole chunk if it cools down to ambient temperature.
All of this is just as true for something like table salt, but the difference is that table salt precipitates or "crashes out" of solution if you oversaturate it, yielding solid table salt. Because GHB is so hygroscopic it sticks to the water and forms something remotely like a gel, having the constency of paraffin wax.

So the threat title question's answer is yes, and you can come up with maximum strength liquid GHB which I already said has about a normal dose of 3.5 ml.

Can you do that "straight"? Well some people gag from the smell of GHB while others have no problem putting it in their mouth undiluted. Strangely enough I have had periods of either reaction, it depends on the quality of the GHB and also mentality.
Because it's so salt you should always drink it with some water or a beverage, but it's not as harmful as GBL to ingest straight up.
 
GHB is not a liquid :)

It comes as a liquid in many instances, if you are 'lucky' it's the maximum concentration.
Again: if you evaporate even more water out of it beyond that point it doesn't stay in liquid form because it simply isn't a liquid but it's a salt. A solid.

The reason powder isn't generally encountered is the hygroscopic property, also discussed a lot already: it attracts water from the air and becomes wet.

Oh sorry, posted this since your last post appeared to be freshly put there after the one above this.

Anyway if something is still unclear, formulate what you want to achieve or do with it - explain your Q..
 
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