Crankinit
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Hey guys, is there any kind of withdrawal or negative side effect from the sudden cessation of testosterone replacement? I'm on 2x 5mg/day patches (starting around mid last year) to combat the low testosterone 5 years of opiate use has left me with, but late last week my script ran out, and Easter weekend made refilling it a pain, I figured I'd be fine going without for 4 or 5 days. I last wore the patches properly I think Wednesday or Thursday, until I applied 2 just 20 minutes ago.
I have also, over the last few days, been experiencing symptoms vaguely reminiscent of opiate withdrawal. Mild hot flushes, fluctuating muscle & joint ache and, most noticeably, fairly severe insomnia ( I slept fine Saturday night, 8pm - 4am was then awake for 25 hours till 5am Monday morning, at which point I managed 3 or 4 hours of very unsatisfying sleep with the aid of 20mg or so of nitrazepam. I woke up feeling like shit afterwards and have been awake since (31 hours), despite having taken 30mg or so of nitrazepam last night. I've added 2mg of xanax just recently, which has wiped away a bit of the sleep deprivation shittiness, but not actually helped me sleep. Probably worth adding that I'm not dependent on these benzos, usually I take the nitrazepam in small doses once or twice a month, and I admittedly binged on xanax 2 weeks ago, but I suffered no withdrawal, was fine afterwards until this weekend and hadn't taken it in the intervening time until an hour or so ago.
So to the point, I know absolutely nothing about hormones - is it possible that these symptoms are related to the cessation of the testosterone? I've taken all my other medications as normal. At first I thought that maybe some weird metabolic thing was interfering with my suboxone absorption, but I know opiate withdrawal of various severities intimately, and this doesn't feel like that. I'm baffled as to any other suspects, it's true that I'm a night owl with a fluctuating sleep schedule and that I dislike sleep only a little bit less than I dislike not sleeping, but straight up insomnia is not something I've ever had a problem with, barring stimulant use (which is definitely not a factor, I haven't touched stimulants in over a year, including caffeine, and I haven't even ingested nicotine for the last 6 weeks. I react badly to stimulants in general and go out of my way to avoid them).
Also worth mentioning that I've had no major dietary or lifestyle changes, no major emotional upheavals.
I'm going to do my own research, but BL is always the first impulse in these situations.
Cheers for any input.
(mods, if the response is a straight up 'nope, not relevant,' feel free to shift this to wherever you think appropriate)
I have also, over the last few days, been experiencing symptoms vaguely reminiscent of opiate withdrawal. Mild hot flushes, fluctuating muscle & joint ache and, most noticeably, fairly severe insomnia ( I slept fine Saturday night, 8pm - 4am was then awake for 25 hours till 5am Monday morning, at which point I managed 3 or 4 hours of very unsatisfying sleep with the aid of 20mg or so of nitrazepam. I woke up feeling like shit afterwards and have been awake since (31 hours), despite having taken 30mg or so of nitrazepam last night. I've added 2mg of xanax just recently, which has wiped away a bit of the sleep deprivation shittiness, but not actually helped me sleep. Probably worth adding that I'm not dependent on these benzos, usually I take the nitrazepam in small doses once or twice a month, and I admittedly binged on xanax 2 weeks ago, but I suffered no withdrawal, was fine afterwards until this weekend and hadn't taken it in the intervening time until an hour or so ago.
So to the point, I know absolutely nothing about hormones - is it possible that these symptoms are related to the cessation of the testosterone? I've taken all my other medications as normal. At first I thought that maybe some weird metabolic thing was interfering with my suboxone absorption, but I know opiate withdrawal of various severities intimately, and this doesn't feel like that. I'm baffled as to any other suspects, it's true that I'm a night owl with a fluctuating sleep schedule and that I dislike sleep only a little bit less than I dislike not sleeping, but straight up insomnia is not something I've ever had a problem with, barring stimulant use (which is definitely not a factor, I haven't touched stimulants in over a year, including caffeine, and I haven't even ingested nicotine for the last 6 weeks. I react badly to stimulants in general and go out of my way to avoid them).
Also worth mentioning that I've had no major dietary or lifestyle changes, no major emotional upheavals.
I'm going to do my own research, but BL is always the first impulse in these situations.
Cheers for any input.
(mods, if the response is a straight up 'nope, not relevant,' feel free to shift this to wherever you think appropriate)