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hazard12

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So Im quite fond of rolling on different substances, namely 4fa, 6apb, methylone,mdai,mdma (not all at the same time). My problem has always been the post rolling blues. My Mondays will usually be a spiral of depression and even anxiety triggered by the depression. Even though its pretty bad it usually goes away by Tuesday afternoon. Im not asking for advice on how to roll, I have pretty much come to terms with the fact that im prone to rolling induced depression and my weekends are always worth it.

What im wondering is, since the depression comes from being serotonin depleted if I am not mistaken, how was my last weekend possible? Not only did I roll but I rolled 2 days in a row (1rst day on 175mg of 6apb and 2nd day 200mg of 4fa followed by 120mg 6apb 2 hours later). The key difference is that this time after the 2nd event I came back home with a girl who i clicked with really well. We ended up spending all part of Sunday and all of Monday together (watching movies, food, sex, you name it). What was fucking awesome is that the entire time i could have sworn i was somehow rolling, i felt absolutely buzzed just from being with her. I know that is possible without any kind of drugs but how is it even possible when i was supposedly serotonin depleted? And not only that but after she left Monday night I still had an awesome mood, all the way to Tuesday night, and after that no depression at all.

Is there any mechanism that jump starts serotonin production when you are with someone you like? Im trying to figure out wtf happened cause that was probably one of the best weekends of my life and Id like to repeat that if possible (no, I cant just tell the same girl to come over every weekend , although thatd be great).
 
There are thousands of chemicals released when you are connecting with someone on a very intimate level for the first time, the sheer elation caused by these chemicals is most likely the reason for your lack of depression. Maybe this means she is the one..
 
Mood is an extremely complex thing. It's influenced by so much more than just serotonin. There are a whole host of other monoamines, peptide molecules, and gases that can effect how you feel, like dopamine, which is definitely released by food, sex, and doing the things that you enjoy. Your body can also affect your mood. When you have a cold or the flu I'm sure your mood isn't all chipper like it is now. These are just a couple examples of how mood isn't strictly regulated by only one factor, such as serotonin levels.

I also remember reading something that stated that wounds heal faster when you bond with someone you like/love. I can't remember exactly, but perhaps it's somehow related to serotonin production. This is just a fun thought though, it's not really educated.
 
I always feel great after rolling. You probably felt great because you weren't thinking about how shitty you could feel later. You were occupied and happy with what you're doing. I always tell everyone that having a positive mindset is the key to not being depressed the days after rolling. I truly believe it. Keep yourself busy and don't dwell on the fact that you aren't in heaven anymore, but back to your normal self.
 
My comedowns were always like yours OP. It so happened that one weekend I dropped 7 pills and had a typical shitty comedown and 7 days later i dropped 3 of the same pills but met my now ex-girlfriend, suffice to say I experienced no comedown and actually felt like I was STILL rolling the day after. Mood/set/setting influences much more than you think!
 
Well fuck....imma go try marry this girl then cause ive gone back to girls after rolling and it was never like this.
 
hazard12 said:
Well fuck....imma go try marry this girl then cause ive gone back to girls after rolling and it was never like this.
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I believe thats what fucked me up with my ex, I said the exact same thing and i think it had something to do with the boding we had when rolling but 3 months alter it ended in hell because there was no chemistry

then again, you could have a good future with this girl if she made you feel that way
 
hazard12 said:
Well fuck....imma go try marry this girl then cause ive gone back to girls after rolling and it was never like this.
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Easy killer. This is harm reduction forum lmao. Don't don't marry this girl yet. Hahah just looking out for your well being (this is in jest btw) it's always nice to connect woth someone on that level. Drugs or not. Hope you've found yourself a positive situation and possible partner to embark upon your endeavors in life.
 
hazard12 said:
Well fuck....imma go try marry this girl then cause ive gone back to girls after rolling and it was never like this.
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MrSpeedyG said:
I believe thats what fucked me up with my ex, I said the exact same thing and i think it had something to do with the boding we had when rolling but 3 months alter it ended in hell because there was no chemistry
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QFT. Seriously. I ended up with probation in two separate counties for 2 years each because of jumping into a relationship after bonding while rolling... Had we never rolled, our relationship would have fizzled out like it was meant to. The damn "I love you" came out while we were rolling and pushed casual dating into extreme committed co-dependent and turbulent relationship pretty much overnight for two people that were definitely not compatible. Personality aside, Libra and Aries as a couple is just asking for trouble and I knew that when we started dating but the sex was so good that... well, Libras can't give up great sex very easily LMAO.

But yeah, tread lightly with the feelings that come out when you're rolling. Its right along the same lines where you roll, meet someone that seems totally awesome and you're going to be great friends, talk all night, cuddle, dance, etc., then come down in the morning and are like WTF... I can't stand this person!

Then there is the huge group of "friends" that you used to roll with that you lose when you quit doing drugs for any significant period of time.

Or even worse when you find a roll "buddy" for the night and then the next day you're like "what did I see in this person and why are people congratulating us... oh fuck now I have to go break up with them before I leave the after party"
 
I appreciate your concern and I obviously didnt actually mean i was gonna marry her, but ill definitely keep her around. Also in my case we didnt actually bond while rolling. The way it happened was i brought her back we chilled till about 11am n then she went back home. Later on that sunday she came back at 11pm ish. Neither of us were rolling when all the bonding and sex happened. What surprised me wasnt the fact that we clicked it was the fact that it fixed my brain after the rolling had run its course.
 
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