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Stimulants Can I take amphetamines while on opiates?(Equally gruesome accident and final exams.)

Vineyard

Vineyard

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Hi bluelighters! wanted to ask a couple questions regarding mixing Adderall and Vicodin.

Backround/Story:

I'm a professional skateboarder. I'm not going to give out my name or any of the companies I am affiliated with for obvious reasons (not like any of you would know of me anyways). About a week ago, something very, very bad happened to me. I was out filming for a video part with some buddies and I was trying to hardflip a 10-foot ledge. I lost my footing mid-air, and well... I got popsicle'd. For those who are un-educated on skateboarding terms, a "popsicle" is essentially when you mess up on a trick and your board goes either up your ass or crushes your balls, making the victim resemble a human popsicle. Instead of getting the board in my ass or my balls, I got it right in the "gooch" (place between your ass and sack). I like to think of it as ordering soft-serve ice cream. You can either get chocolate (the butt) or vanilla(the balls). I guess my board couldn't decide between the two flavors and ended up getting the swirl. The feeling can only be described as "Sprinting, jumping off a ten foot ledge, spreading your legs and landing on a 1"x8" piece of lumber thats 3 feet tall". Wasn't the most pleasant feeling in the world.

I guess that the business/property owner witnessed the whole thing from his window. The poor guy ran up to us, got on his knees and begged us to not sue him for liability. If I didn't feel like a navy seal just stuck a bowie knife up my ass, I would have found it funny that he thought we would ever blame him for our recklessness.

After one of the most uncomfortable ER visits of my life, which included having my butt and testicles cleaned by a male nurse around the same age as me, having to describe what a “popsicle” was to what seemed like every goddamn doctor and nurse in the hospital. I ended up walking out the door with eight stitches in my taint, fucked up tailbone, a prescription for Vicodin 5/500’s, and last but not least; a serious blow to my manhood.

I am prescribed Adderall IR, but I skip taking it daily (I don’t have ADD, I just suck at calculus..). I Stockpile it so my friends and I can use them as study aids when needed. In my case, I have finals coming up shortly and I wish to take Adderall as a study aid before the tests, and also during the tests. I’m writing this post because I was wondering if I can take Adderall while on Vicodin. I have read different post’s on this and I have received a lot of mixed messages. Some say that the combination is dangerous and others say that it simply depends on tolerance.
I am not taking some of these threads advice because most of them are about getting FUCKED UP, like taking 40mg's of Hydrocodone and 120mg's of Adderall. I just want to take 5mg Vicodin before the test. Even after a week it still hurts like hell to sit down. I want to cancel out the dopey-like feeling from the Vicodin with the adderall. I have no idea what doses I should do or if I should even mix them at all.

If I just take the vicodin, my ass wont hurt but I will probably fail the test.
If I just take the adderall, my ass will hurt and this will probably heavily distract me from the test.
If I take both I have no Idea what will happen if I mix the vicodin and the adderall. It could really help me or it may not. Help would be appreciated!
 
Were you the kid who tore his gooch on tosh.0...?

But in all seriousness, the combination isn't particularly dangerous since you seem responsible enough to keep your doses low. One thing I might suggest would be a little more vicodin, probably 7.5mg rather than 5mg, just to make sure the stimulation doesn't override the opiate. But that's personal preference, to each their own. Sorry about your accident, and good luck on those finals!
 
it puts a strain on your heart cause ones a downer and ones an upper but if you keep doses low you should be fine just beware that's similar to a speedball which is one of the greatest most addicting highs you will ever feel.
 
If you take 5mg of vicodin and like 20-30mg of adderall and you are a healthy male (seems like you are if you are confident enough to hardflip a ten set lol) than you will be totally fine. With low doses like that i can't imagine there being much of a problem. Might want to take a slightly higher dose of vicodin (like 7.5mg) as another poster said just so the stimulation from the addy doesn't cancel out the opiate.

I'm actually flow for a team in CA and did nearly the same thing with a ten stair except i was inward heeling it and shit went straight up my ass.

Wouldnt've had to explain what a popsicle was to me ahahahahahahaha
 
it puts a strain on your heart cause ones a downer and ones an upper but if you keep doses low you should be fine just beware that's similar to a speedball which is one of the greatest most addicting highs you will ever feel.
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This is a complete myth, while there are many reasons to avoid combining uppers and downers, the idea that it ''strains your heart by pulling it in different directions'' is not one of them.



As to the question at hand, I'd say you'd be fine. Unlike the others, I wouldn't recommend increasing your vicodin dose. While the amphetamine will decrease the sedation from the vicodin (which is actually a good thing, in your case), it won't decrease the painkilling properties, and amphetamine in fact has painkilling properties of it's own. In fact you might be better off to experiment before the test, see if the amphetamine reduces the pain enough to go without the vicodin, or with a reduced dose of it.
 
An emergency room doctor gave me percocet and ativan while knowing that I was on adderall. The percocet was only a 5mg, and the adderall was a 30mg xr. I didn't abuse them. Everything was fine. I was in legit pain following an attack and needed to babysit.

I would be careful raising the doses much higher because my body did react negatively another time taking a handful of vicodin, adderall, and percocet together.. My whole body ended up with scaley red bumps everywhere and I felt like shit.
 
Crankinit said:
This is a complete myth, while there are many reasons to avoid combining uppers and downers, the idea that it ''strains your heart by pulling it in different directions'' is not one of them.



As to the question at hand, I'd say you'd be fine. Unlike the others, I wouldn't recommend increasing your vicodin dose. While the amphetamine will decrease the sedation from the vicodin (which is actually a good thing, in your case), it won't decrease the painkilling properties, and amphetamine in fact has painkilling properties of it's own. In fact you might be better off to experiment before the test, see if the amphetamine reduces the pain enough to go without the vicodin, or with a reduced dose of it.
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My reason is from my own experiences- having enough of an opiate to at least take the edge off of the adderall greatly helped my concentration.
I guess that's just me tho so its not the greatest argument but still, a dosage increase of 2.5 mgs with a weaker opiate like hydrocodone probably wouldn't make much of a difference either way....
 
The whole upper+down=bad for your heart thing is complete bullshit.

In WWII, the Nazis were researching the effects of a single dosing unit containing methamphetamine, cocaine, and oxycodone called D-IX to create super-soldiers that could march for 55 miles straight without stopping. I'm sure they would have been using potent barbiturates on top of this combination as well.

Doctors, even in today's time Rx benzodiazepines, amphetamines, opioids, and sometimes even barbituraties concurrently.

OP: You have nothing to worry about.
 
My whole body ended up with scaley red bumps everywhere and I felt like shit.
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That just sounds like a histamine reaction to the extra opiates.

In WWII, the Nazis were researching the effects of a single dosing unit containing methamphetamine, cocaine, and oxycodone called D-IX to create super-soldiers that could march for 55 miles straight without stopping. I'm sure they would have been using potent barbiturates on top of this combination as well.
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55 miles on coke and meth.... now that would give you a heart attack :O Bloody hell.
 
Jktm said:
The whole upper+down=bad for your heart thing is complete bullshit.

In WWII, the Nazis were researching the effects of a single dosing unit containing methamphetamine, cocaine, and oxycodone called D-IX to create super-soldiers that could march for 55 miles straight without stopping. I'm sure they would have been using potent barbiturates on top of this combination as well.

Doctors, even in today's time Rx benzodiazepines, amphetamines, opioids, and sometimes even barbituraties concurrently.

OP: You have nothing to worry about.
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Hey again. I don't think the nazis were into safety. in fact it was the complete opposite (the leaders basically wanted to destroy the world). That was seventy years ago, too, when prescription practices around the world were more than questionable by todays standards.

I think they do that rarely, and usually it's in low doses. Let's do some research though. Here's one: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0091305778903313 http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00404014 Check out ebola's take here: http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/420499-Combining-stimulants-and-depresants-what-is-the-real-risk


Unpredictable results (if not used under doctor's order), leading to possibly coma and death
 
Unpredictable results (if not used under doctor's order), leading to possibly coma and death
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Broadly speaking, yes. In this specific case, he's not taking enough of either to put a pidgeon into a coma, let alone a healthy adult human.

And the results can be just as unpredictable even if used under doctors orders, sadly enough. A lot of doctors don't know nearly as much about the drugs they're handing out as they should.
 
Yeah I guess it just pays more to err on the side of caution.

Not just as unpredictable, I would argue, but yes, doctors can't predict everything. I think the sad reality is that no one knows much about these drugs except that they work. I've learned that there's really no formula or method by which to gauge if something works than to put a substance through the ample years of testing required
 
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