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Can dogs sniff x?

ihave heard that putting the tabs sealed in wax works, that true? i really wanna know the secrets of people who can carry their tabs around in a plane and around an airport full o dogs w/o gettin busted
 
its got nothing to do with race of dogs anyway, beagle, shepherd or labrador, it doesn't matter, they can all have been trained... afaik, there are very few dogs trained to smell mdma... and most dogs at airports you will find are not trained for that.. the mdma dogs are probably used/hired for special missions where mdma is suspected to be found, like house searches perhaps.
 
stz said:
the mdma dogs are probably used/hired for special missions where mdma is suspected to be found, like house searches perhaps.
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...or raves 8).

Speaking of which, good thing I'm not popping at the one this weekend! =D

Of course there's the old 'put your gear into a condom, swallow it before you get on the plane and crap it out later' trick. 8)
 
AlphaNumeric said:
^^ A molecule of MDMA is tiny compared to a bacterium, so even if a glove stops bugs, it could still let MDMA through.
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So are you saying that if you have handled pills and some molecules got on your wallet or in your car some where that a dog will pick you out claiming theres pills around?

I doubt a few molecules would mean shit to a dog...
 
When researching this earlier this year, I found a very helpful page on the US Department of Homeland Security. This proudly informed the reader that huge steps had been made in training sniffer dogs to detect MDMA. It said this was a difficult procedure, as the dogs had to be ones already very good at detecting methamphetamine (most dogs are only trained to smell one substance, AFAIK), and then given subsequent training for MDMA. There was no mention of whether meth trained dogs could detect MDMA as well, but one would assume not, since they are going to the trouble of training dogs for MDMA (of course, i mean that a meth-trained dog would be able to smell MDMA, but it wouldnt be close enough to the smell of meth to excite the dog).

The total number of animals trained to do this in the US was given as 170-something. This woould suggest that you are fairly unlikely to come across such a dog, but there is always the chance. I will try to find a link to the webpage and post it.
 
The true answer is this:

If the dog is trained to smell ex, it will know, otherwise it will not. The chances of this are extremely low, although if the pill is cut with meth and you have a large quantity, you may be in trouble.
 
i had some weed in a dugout when crossing from vancouver, BC to the US via amtrak train when they announced that customs inspectors would be bringing a dog on board. i sweated for a bit, and then gambled that a dog wasn't trained to 'woof' for such a small amount.

turned out i was right. he sniffed my bags and moved on.

somewhat unrelated, but interesting nonetheless.

dogs are not infallible by ANY means. if you are careful i would guess you could beat them rather easily.
 
what if you vacuum-sealed a bag with E in it and then vacuum-sealed THAT bag with another bag..? or possibly repeat that step a couple more times..? if some molecules would still be on the bag couldnt u wash the outside bag a lil and clean it off?
 
Believe it or not you can hide the smell of alot of substances with a simple little wrap of fabric softener sheets. In turn keep that in a plastic bag as to not expose the surroundings to the same fragrance. If you don't contain it like that you take the chance of losing the scent from the sheets. If it's contained there is no where for the scents to travel, leaving the scent of the substance overpowered.
 
Literally they can, but in my experience with drug sniffing canines (which is actually quite high), it is **extremely** rare; it's also very costly to add on MDMA and Methamphetamine/Amphetamine detection in a dog, over the standard weed/coke/H combo.
 
has anyone here actually smuggled E?

well, my friend Tim did, and according to him those drug dogs wont randomly sniff people out. He even goes as far as saying that he walked within inches of the dog, and it didnt even smell the weed, let alone the pills.
 
Frodo said:
I doubt a few molecules would mean shit to a dog...
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The few molecules you lose from a pill if you hold it in your hands and put it down a bag is probably like a billion or so, so i wouldn't call it a few.

Just to put things into perspective, a billion MDMA molecules weigh:

m=n*M
m=(1000000000/6,022*10^23)*193.24=3.2*10^-13 grams

which is 0,00032 nano (one billionth) grams

So you get a lot more than "a few" molecules on you when you handle drugs.



Yes, if you keep your pills in a vacuum sealed bag dogs won't be able to sniff it, but since hardly any bag you carry drugs around in is vacuum sealed the dogs will be able to smell it. If you keep the drug in a pickles jar that has been washed with warm water, sealed tightly and left to cool then the vacuum inside the jar will prevent molecules from escaping.
 
I believe that the only drug that cannot be smelt by police trained drug dogs is LSD. There is no other illegal substance that is tasteless, colourless, and odourless.
 
weed...i wont dare.
x..in the other hand..
 
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A dog can only detect it if he was trained to detect it. Also, dogs will only go off when smelling that substance when they are put into an alert mode by the officer. They probably smell weed everyday, but they wont go attacking someone over it unless if the officer says the right command. Anyway, I would say, unless your smuggling across some borders, the chances of finding a K9 that can detect MDMA are very very low.

You gotta think....theres 170 in the U.S., probably the majority at the borders for large amounts. Even if there were 3 per state, the chances are small because my small town has 3 or 4 k9's itself.
 
Not just numbers

Just to be anal dogs actually have about 50 time the 'smell power' of us. Humans have about 5 million scent receptor cells where dogs have about 200 million.

Dogs can actually detect odours at 10,000 time less concentration than humans can; not only do they have more receptores, but their threshold for detection is much lower than humans. Those combined give them much more ability than humans.

As for actually evading detection, I've found one method that works (for food - don't have access to a sniffer dog!). My friend has a dog that can detect food in your pocket, long after you've forgotten about it. So to test this out, I first of all soaked a cloth in clove oil and let the dog sniff this first. Result - dog's sense of smell was almost disabled; the volatile elements of clove oil act as a local anaesthetic (that's why clove oil relieves toothache) which obviously prevent transmission of the nerves associated with the receptors in a dogs nose. What's the bet that they start training dogs to detect clove oil!

Dogs that can detect MDMA, don't actually smell the MDMA, they smell the starting ingredients that haven't been removed (no quality control for illicit drugs!). If you ever get the chance to smell either safrole or 3,4-methylenedioxybenzaldehyde, you'll know what I mean, as they're used in the perfume industry.

PS. The above starting material can actually diffuse through the polymer used for plastic bags as they're soluble in non-polar solvents. It's just a question of time
 
You guy realize there are ways to avoid teh dogs totally, right, and even so there are ways to hide the smell, so the dogs never even notice the pills as well.

Think honey, and vacuum sealed bags.
 
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