Can deca theoretically accelerate healing process of labrum tear?

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My labrum is torn (shoulder). The tear is minor, as I have no pain, only weakness and poor stability of my right shoulder. I have not and will not be getting an MRI due to cost.

I was planning on cycling with deca in about a month, depending on what exercises I'm able to do around that time. I'm curious if deca would help the healing process.

I may never be able to do some lifts again, such as overhead barbell press. Sucks, but it is what it is. So, in a month's time, with the help of phys therapy, I should know how to safely work around the injury. Who knows, maybe I'll even have my shoulder back.

I was thinking that deca and test may help strengthen the muscle surrounding the joint as well as increase RBC. But I really have no idea what I'm talking about. But some of you do...
 
It is a risky proposition, by running a cycle you can increase your healing rate but, if you over work a sever injury it can get worse. A course of Test 250mg/week and 200mg Deca/week along side 2-3IU daily of HGH for a period of 6 months would be ideal from healing a damaged joint. But only alongside a proper regimen of PT. But this would be expensive, more then the MRI. Though a long low dose of test and Deca with a proper PCT ( 16 week cycle) may yield some positive results depending on the injury, if its the wrong kind of injury all you are doing is making it worse, this is of course largely speculative because we have no idea the type of injury we are talking about here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenoid_labrum

The area involved here represents the opportunity for a complex tear, with multiple factors, alongside just the glenoid -labrum ligament, you have the involvement of FOUR joints and FIVE linked bone groups.
 
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My labrum is torn (shoulder). The tear is minor, as I have no pain, only weakness and poor stability of my right shoulder. I have not and will not be getting an MRI due to cost.

I was planning on cycling with deca in about a month, depending on what exercises I'm able to do around that time. I'm curious if deca would help the healing process.

I may never be able to do some lifts again, such as overhead barbell press. Sucks, but it is what it is. So, in a month's time, with the help of phys therapy, I should know how to safely work around the injury. Who knows, maybe I'll even have my shoulder back.

I was thinking that deca and test may help strengthen the muscle surrounding the joint as well as increase RBC. But I really have no idea what I'm talking about. But some of you do...
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Deca is recommended for injury repair, although Boldernone is reputed to be slightly better.. Winstrol reduces the integrity of connective tissue so stay away..

Boldernone, Nandrolone, Anavar & Primobolan (in that order) are reputed to strengthen connective tissue and improve collagen synthesis in general. Nandrolone is known for lubricating joints, but has more side effects than Boldernone...
hGH works better, injected directly into the area of tissue rupture, plenty of athletes have had success with 2iu ED/5 days.. Although with a different injury to yourself: JasonDB swears by this method and stated his hamstring tear was completely healed & back lifting in 5 days....

So hGH if you can get it, Test + low dose Deca, Boldernone wouldn't go amiss, keep weights low or as physio advises...
 
They are doing a new procedure IAGH Intra- Articular Growth Hormone treatment, and frankly it has been wide spread in the sports field for a few years now and has been making headways into the mainstream the past few as well. The course seems to be similar to that of the one GF just mentioned though oddly enough this is a case of the medicine being more aggressive then the PED user, with standard treatment being up to 5IU administered directly into the offending joint on a daily basis with either a singular large dose or split into an Am/Pm administration, Dr, Allan R Dunn MD is the brain child behind the procedure. He states the following stats:

Based on significant measurable increase in motion, decrease of pain, and increase of joint space, the following percentages give some idea of the success rate:
Ankles 95%
Knees 86%
Hips over 50%
Elbows 95%
Shoulders 75%
Thumbs 75%

Decrease or complete abatement of pain, swelling, heat and stiffness in the treated joint. Measurable increase in the space between the bone surfaces. The bone on bone condition often improves and space re-appears - up to a 4 millimeters between the bones. Several patients have been followed over five (5) years, and their symptoms have not recurred. In several cases of osteoarthritis of the knee, the bow-legged deformity was reversed and the alignment of their knees WAS restored to normal.

He has made the following claim:
Morpho-angiogenesis is a unique benign action of growth hormone discovered by Dr. Dunn. He lectured on his discovery at Harvard University Medical School October 4, 2001. Morpho-angiogenesis causes rejuvenation of adult blood vessels to form fetal blood vessels which produce stem cells.
The IAGH method works because it utilizes this unique action of growth hormone. This action is a growth hormone dependent form of angiogenesis which leads to articular cartilage regeneration. Regular angiogenesis is a benign process in which new blood vessels develop and help produce new tissue. It occurs, for instance, after your skin is cut. In regular angiogenesis NEW BLOOD VESSELS develop from existing blood vessels.
Morphoangiogenesis is different because it forms structures AND BLOOD VESSELS. These new structures have one special function - which is to produce stem cells followed by production of new cartilage cells. Because THE MORPHOLOGY (anatomical structure) of the vessels has changed, Dr. Dunn gave the process a special name, Morpho-angiogenesis. These new structures are IDENTICAL to the structures which produce cartilage in the fetus.

So the whole process seems to be sound, still cutting edge as our understanding of the full effect of HGH is benign sorted out, That being said you may want to look at a peptide TB500, it seems to be being used with relative success in treating injured joints in the same fashion.
 
Thanks all.

I'm considering TB500, as it was recommended to me in another forum. If I could afford HGH, I'd have jumped on that train long ago; by next year I should be making significantly more money, so it's a possibility.

As for now, I'll be checking in with a Physical Therapist for a few appointments, and see how for that goes. This is all very disappointing, though, as my cycle was supposed to start in less than 3 weeks :(
 
Run the cycle. Just be careful with the joint. Combined with PT it will be an asset but just be vigilant about aggravating the injury further. Good Luck mate.
 
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