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Caffeine and chest pain

zephyr

zephyr

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I am a relatively new coffee drinker. I have been drinking it for the last few months every day and I usually have around 3 lattes a day.

Yesterday, I had my 3 lattes ( two in the morning around 8am, one at 10am) and a bottle of coke around lunchtime.

I drink a lot of coke, I love it and have tried coke zero and diet coke but they just arent the same.

Yesterday afternoon I had pretty severe chest pain, obviously from the caffeine intake. Well, I think it was anyway but I havent experienced it before. It was like a severe pinching and I couldnt move much for an hour or so. Is this excess caffeine consumption?

How many coffees is really the norm that people drink? Is there any recommendation about coke as well or caffeine in general?
Do the no doz awakener tablets have the exact same effect as a drink of coffee?
 
the chest pain are probably heart palpitations from the caffeine..

as far as caffeine consumption goes, it varies from person to person.. obviously depending on weight/stature and also ones tolerance to caffeine..(if you've been intaking caffeine every day for 20 years or just started last week..etc)

coke really has hardly any caffeine, very small amount, as far as no-doz, check on the bottle to see how much mg's/caffeine it has.. i believe 100mg's is the standard for a regular cup of coffee. and taking caffeine in pill form or in a coffee drink doesn't make a diff.
 
Heart palpitations?

Sounds like angina. Could be the coffee, might not be though. Chest pain can be a muscle thing too. If it happens again you might want to think about going to a doc. Chest pain that lasts an hour and prevents you from moving is not a good sounding thing.
 
How many coffees is really the norm that people drink? Is there any recommendation about coke as well or caffeine in general?
Do the no doz awakener tablets have the exact same effect as a drink of coffee?
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I've read something along the lines of the following and I've been pretty much doing the same anyway.

Try not to drink any caffinated drink on an empty stomach, particually first thing in the morning. Try and eat something first.. bread, fruit, whatever and then follow up the drink with a glass of water.

It'll help upsetting not only your stomach but might relieve some of your issues. I'm no MD, but hey, it's harmless and probably good practise anyway.

As for chest pains in general, ones that last an hour don't sound too good, I'd say see a doc and discuss it with them if they continue.

My recommendation, drop the coke and coffee intake anyway. ++Sugar = bad and leads to diabetes and other health problems.
 
3 lattes a day!? damn girl! That's quite a lot. Are you drinking actual lattes with espresso or just plain coffee? How much espresso is in your lattes?
 
If you're not already excersising start excersising, working your way into it slowly. That will help any caffeine related heart palpitations and any jitteryness. If the chest pains don't get better, or get worse with excersise stop immediately and see a doctor.
 
randycaver said:
3 lattes a day!? damn girl! That's quite a lot. Are you drinking actual lattes with espresso or just plain coffee? How much espresso is in your lattes?
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double shots of espresso. I think I am addicted to this stuff :(

Hey- this explains the sleeplessness. I cut down to one in the morning and slept like a baby last night. I underestimated the power of coffee I think. Because its not a hard drug, I didnt really think much of indulging it a lot of it.=D

One or two a day should be okay though shouldnt it?
 
it was like a severe pinching and I couldnt move much for an hour or so.
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Unless you are making shit up.... did I miss something? Millions of people drink coffee every day and do not have this effect. This is not normal (unless it wasn't that bad...)

If you're not already excersising start excersising, working your way into it slowly. That will help any caffeine related heart palpitations and any jitteryness.
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Thanks Doc... lets hope she doesn't have a serious heart problem and keel over. 8) " a severe pinching and I couldnt move much for an hour " Doesn't sound like coffee jitters to me.
 
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Gary Gnu said:
Unless you are making shit up.... did I miss something? Millions of people drink coffee every day and do not have this effect. This is not normal (unless it wasn't that bad...)



Thanks Doc... lets hope she doesn't have a serious heart problem and keel over. 8) " a severe pinching and I couldnt move much for an hour " Doesn't sound like coffee jitters to me.
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um...I realise its not normal, hence the fact I asked the question, thanks for any advice or info but keep your sarcasm to yourself. Thanks! :D
 
You asked a question?
If you're not already excersising start excersising, working your way into it slowly. That will help any caffeine related heart palpitations and any jitteryness. If the chest pains don't get better, or get worse with excersise stop immediately and see a doctor.
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I guess the "Thanks Doc" part was a little sarcastic... and for good reason, it sounded to me like you were giving unhealthy advice. Exercise first… then go to the doctor? Sorry if I have misunderstood you but that doesn’t look like harm reduction to me.
 
not all caffeine feels the same on my body.

coffee is one of the most unpredictable caffeine highs for me. one day it'll set fire to my arse and i'll just get lots of things done and another day it all backfires and there's blocked energy and tension, mostly chest/left arm, and anxiety. Hard to be able to tell the difference between anxiety and a truly physical ailment. When does anxiety BECOME a physical ailment rather than an emotion and an accompanying set of thoughts?

My advice is to taper off the caffeine completely... then slowly reintroduce small amounts of caffeine into your body to see how it affects you... see its addictive properties and how it might give you a moodlift or perhaps some restlessness. Think about your reasons for choosing this drug.

If you choose to continue using caffeine, try experimenting with alternative ways of getting that caffeine.

Man-made anhydrous caffeine may be chemically identical to natural caffeine, but it sure feels different, probably due to all the co-factors lost when the compound is isolated... Hence caffeine pills are not that smooth.... I also don't drink colas and stuff much for the same reason...

But I like black tea (some people don't like how it makes them feel, though...) and all sorts of green teas and white teas and red teas... all from basically the same plant family, it's all how it's processed.

Or try Maté tea...

Or guarana...
 
Thanks Doc... lets hope she doesn't have a serious heart problem and keel over. " a severe pinching and I couldnt move much for an hour " Doesn't sound like coffee jitters to me.
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Yes, it could be caffeine. Caffeine is well known to cause arrhythmias and palpitations, (in which case he really needs to wean off of it). It could also be a muscle cramp, other stress, or referred pain from elsewhere in the body. It doesn't sound like angina or a heart attack. Most angina occurs during physical activity and subsides with rest, and the pain is more of pressure than a pinching. If his pain gets worse with physical activity, then it probably could be angina. If it gets better with physical activity, then its probably caffeine related stress or other stress. And if it were a heart attack the pain wouldn't have gone away. You're entitled to disagree if you will, but no need for your sarcasm.
 
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^ after reading your posts in this forum, it seems you have no real information of your own to add except "google" and "see your doctor". I think Id know if I had a heart attack and know my own health history. So please, if you have nothing further to add, take it elsewhere. :p
 
The information I am providing is a second take. I try to provide a different perspective. I have offered advice on medications, treatment ,etc.... where to go to seek help.. etc. If anyone wants information from my perspective, I am happy to provide it....and have DONE SO....


I am no Troll. I am just trying to keep things a little balanced. I think this is a great forum! :) I want to put in my 2Cents, I know some folk don't agree. Isn't that what a discussion forum is about? It is: "Healthy Living" not "Alternative Healthy Living" right?


And in terms of your " ^^" Do you disagree that giving medical advice is dangerous if you have no training in doing so? Is that harm reduction?

I think Id know if I had a heart attack and know my own health history.
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I didn't say you had a heart attack... and I know you know yourself quite well...

Like I said... if what you say is true it could be serious. geeze... back off! ;) Just looking out for ya.
 
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^ after reading your posts in this forum, it seems you have no real information of your own to add except "google" and "see your doctor". I think Id know if I had a heart attack and know my own health history. So please, if you have nothing further to add, take it elsewhere. :p
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Both those pieces of advice aren't bad ones either.

Healthy Living is here to give each other advice, sure, but a lot of the time it would be irresponsible not to recommend the poster to see a doctor if the general audience thought that his/her health was in serious danger.

I mean, how stupid would we all feel if while giving excerpts of our own advice we totally ignored the posters state of health and they became serious ill?
 
^ I am not dissing the "see your doctor, use google" thing, but every post here can be signed off with that disclaimer. I just assume most people wouldnt just use this forum to get information, but its more useful than google here to get other peoples stories to compare with your own and there are a lot of conflicting bits of info out there as well. I havent had that chest tightening since that incident but I will go to my gp if it happens again. I have only been drinking coffee for a few months and went a little crazy on it is all.

Advice can be a dangerous gift if you are not a "doc" .
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This might have some ring of truth to it but you dont need a Phd to tell about your personal experiences you've had with health issues and having a Phd doesnt mean you are always right either. I would be dead now if I had have listened to my doctor who thought my scarlet fever was a mere "flu".

And in terms of your " ^^" Do you disagree that giving medical advice is dangerous if you have no training in doing so? Is that harm reduction?
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I dont know about anyone else, but I do have medical training, thankyou. People post here to give advice on issues they have knowledge in as far as I can see and I have no problem taking it on board, as well as doing my own research. This board is part of that research. :)
 
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zephyr said:
^ I just assume most people wouldnt just use this forum to get information, but its more useful than google here to get other peoples stories to compare with your own and there are a lot of conflicting bits of info out there as well.


This might have some ring of truth to it but you dont need a phd to tell about your personal experiences you've had with health issues and having a phd doesnt mean you are always right either.
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That is also a formidable point.

The last thing I'd want to see is people being discouraged from posting questions or information for fear of being told to go use Google.

We are here because a search engine hasn't provided us the opinions and often extensive knowledge of our peers, so its often very narrow minded to pigeon hole someone and tell them to UTFSE outside of Bluelight (ala Google).

Fair enough if the info has been posted on the board before, then yeah, use Bluelight's search engine for sure, but you're right zephyr, the community here often better understands their peer's issues or questions than does a faceless search engine.

Back on topic anyhoo :)
 
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