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BZP Free Party Pills - Black Mandelin Result..?

What a few of you need to understand, is that testing reagents are only intended as a presumptive test, they are not meant to be able to clearly distinuish between all drugs.

Here, I've offered this before. It's probably the best companion to testing kits you can have, even if it is an old paper. What you will realise, is that many drugs give similar results with one or more of the reagents. However, you'll also see, as kingpin007 pointed out, using more than reagent is a considerable advantage.

Spot Tests- A Reference for Forensic Chemists
 
Honestly, I think all these pseudo drugs are killing the market. I reckon in the not to distant future, the norm will be to buy points of MDMA, not pressed pills.
 
Nero Blast test results:

Results ended up turning quite purple after a minute or so, unfortunately I was unable to get a clear photo of this before the batteries died.

Long story short...more fake results!!!!





 
it would seem to me that caffeine offers a better buzz then these BZP pills.
 
ConcernedAnonymous said:
All your products are illegal including Buxzz and Cherry Pop and innocent people are being charged for it under analogue laws including resellers.
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Buzz and Cherry Pop seem to be floating around again - I had friends using these at a music festival yesterday. They were freshly purchased.

The comments above would imply they're covered by some analogue laws. Any ideas as to active ingredients?
 
I was under the impression liquid products such as those you mentioned contained legal combinations - L-Tyrosine, Guarana, Ginseng, etc?

Happy High Herbs were raided a few months ago. Police were specifically targeting Buzz/Cherry Pop type products. I don't think anything came of it though.

Speaking from experience, they offer nothing more than a commercial energy drink or cup of coffee.
 
At a recent metal/alternative themed festival a couple of weeks ago in Sydney both Cherry Pop and Buzzz were readily available, in full view of police, from two different stalls.

The ingredients listed on Buzzz are: chocolate, honey, bitter orange, kanna, L-Tyrosine, octopamine, saffron, H20 and EtOH.

Cherry Pop is labelled as containing: guarana, citrus aurantium, pelargonium quercifolium, chocolate extract, octopamine and cherry flavour.

SWIM asked both stall holders if either of the two products interacted with MAOI's and was asked "what's that?"

The exact same thing happened at one of Canberra's larger university themed events a few months ago. Additionally this time they were also selling Prickly Pear that was labelled as containing absolutely no mescaline. SWIM still has the packaging.

Mods, if this is inappropriate in any way please feel free to edit this post as you like. SWIM is very concerned about the people who became very ill from these products and has been meaning to bring it up with "the head herb guy" ever since.
 
Verybuffed said:
At a recent metal/alternative themed festival a couple of weeks ago in Sydney both Cherry Pop and Buzzz were readily available, in full view of police, from two different stalls.

The ingredients listed on Buzzz are: chocolate, honey, bitter orange, kanna, L-Tyrosine, octopamine, saffron, H20 and EtOH.

Cherry Pop is labelled as containing: guarana, citrus aurantium, pelargonium quercifolium, chocolate extract, octopamine and cherry flavour.

SWIM asked both stall holders if either of the two products interacted with MAOI's and was asked "what's that?"

The exact same thing happened at one of Canberra's larger university themed events a few months ago. Additionally this time they were also selling Prickly Pear that was labelled as containing absolutely no mescaline. SWIM still has the packaging.

Mods, if this is inappropriate in any way please feel free to edit this post as you like. SWIM is very concerned about the people who became very ill from these products and has been meaning to bring it up with "the head herb guy" ever since.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and translate the 'herbs' to the compounds utilised and estimated effects:

Buzzz:

chocolate - chocamine, a proprietary extract of cocoa containing methylxanthines (theobromine, caffeine, and theophylline), biogenic amines (phenylethylamine, tyramine, and according to one source, synephrine), amino acids (phenylalanine, tryptophan, tyrosine, others), minerals (with a high content of magnesium), numerous antioxidants, and possibly some non-psychoactive cannabanoid-related compounds.
honey - honey, sweetening agent
bitter orange - synephrine, ephedrine analogue and relatively potent stimulant
kanna - mesembrine, nonspecific ethnobotanical 'potentiator' with variably psychoactive effects, highly dose-dependent. Mostly unresearched profile of action, prolongs especially DMT experiences and is a suspected SSRI and potentially MAOI.
L-Tyrosine - l-Tyrosine, amino acid, doesn't like being mixed with MAOIs. probably included because of its reputed help with dtimulant comedown and withdrawals
octopamine - octopamine, widely touted but still uncertain neurotransmitter analogue of uncertain effectiveness. Promising and very interesting, but no concrete psychoactive effects as verified by independent trials (to my knowledge).
saffron - crocin/safranal, compounds shown to have a nonspecific anti-depressant effect with unknown mechanism of action.
H20 - water, carrier solvent.
EtOH - ethanol, carrier solvent.

Cherry Pop:

guarana - Good ol' caffeine, as well as raw stimulant effects it has profiles of action regarding the metabolism of primary amines, dopamine reuptake and other subtle actions.
citrus aurantium - synephrine
pelargonium quercifolium - 1,3-DMAA, vasoconstrictor and novel stimulant popular in the party pill crowd.
chocolate extract - chocamine, see above
octopamine - see above
cherry flavour - flavouring, unless there's some secret magic ingredient in cherries they don't want us to know about ;)

But shit yeah, a lot of that would go nastily with MAOIs, not to mention that several of tyhe compounds themselves aren't altogether proven to be safe, or trialled and tested, and completely mapped in terms of contra-indications and side-effect profiles, so... legal highs are a bit of a crapshoot with your body. Rememebr that.
 
Honestly how stupid is the law. Its just pathetic how this BZP crap can be made legal.

I have taken plenty of that crap in the past (luckily enough, it doesnt effect me as much in terms of making you sick). But the side effects of using this drug is shocking. Rapid heart rate, sweating non stop, no sleep, and the effects just get worse and worse for the next day or two. Thats when you start feeling sick in the stomach and dont wanna to put anything to eat in your mouth. Its more like an alcohol hang over. Horrible stuff...

And yet they ban MDMA? which is probably the most safest out there, minus all these side effects?

Pfft what a joke. Go and get fucked law!
 
Thanks Doctor War.

That's some very interesting reading, especially about the Kanna - I never realised any of that. Good news about the Dimitri effect though!

I'll post up the ingredients on the "Kaktus" product later today.
 
As promised:

Kaktus; a blend of of cactus flesh (Selenicereus & Opuntia sp.), Coffee and Chocolate. Does NOT contain mescaline

Same company name and address as the previous two products.

The Opuntia is what I Wiki'd as being Prickly Pear. I don't know much about Cacti so I may be on the wrong track about the mescaline.
 
Does anyone know whats in the London Underground 3.1 range? I remember seeing a post of the suspected contents, but I can't for the life of me find it again.
 
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