Beatlebot
Bluelight Crew
No I was thinking more of women who can shoot grapes and things out of their vaginas. That's an awesome power. I can't do that.
lol they were practically mirrorsDigitalDuality said:damn you bingal! beat me to it![]()
qwe said:damn two people beat me to it. i had to go do something before i wrote my post!
anyway, a quote from another dead hero,
If fucking is legal,
and selling is legal,
then why isn't selling fucking legal!?
tobala said:Damn.
Since he hasn't reappeared, maybe this guy reported back to his god and was reassigned to the rectory. %)
Practice practice practice.Beatlebot said:No I was thinking more of women who can shoot grapes and things out of their vaginas. That's an awesome power. I can't do that.
Beatlebot said:To expand on what I said earlier, the middle aged women in lingerie were fun to look at because they actually seemed to be enjoying themselves. The younger girls, of which there were plenty, either looked desperate for business or hopeless looking.
DigitalDuality said:I unlike you don't think it's wholly negative, but i don't think it's a great thing either. You'd have to look at it case by case. Maybe there's some lonely guy out there that gives a girl money just to have someone to talk to, maybe another works 80-90 hours a week and doesn't have great social skills and just wants to feel that physical connection with someone. What harm is that for someone to provide that service willingly?
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I got your pm. I kinda forgot about this thread, ha ha. Anyway, the point I was trying to make is this: regardless of the legal status of prostitution in a capitalist country (keyphrase here), women will still be exploited. I don't live in a country where it is legal, and as a result of it, some extremely horrendous things happen on the streets blocks from where I live and this is straight up exploitation of women because they are simply weaker, less fortunate, less educated. On the other side of the coin, it is still exploitation, because you are taxed for your income and elites whether it be in banks or government are profiting from your labour. Why else would they legalize it? Governments don't actually care about the whole moral issue of it, they care about the money issue of it.Even if we put aside any 'ethical/moral' feelings on the issue, I still fail to see how anyone can support prohibiting prostitution. Even if we put all feelings of whether prostitution is right/wrong aside, the bottom line is that:
- prohibiting it will NOT stop it, people who want to pay for sex still will, and those who want to sell it still will.
- making it illegal brings in all the problems associated with illicit markets, in this case pimps, the inability (or significantly reduced ability) of prostitutes to report crimes (rape, abuse, etc), and also lowers any 'standards' for the prostitutes. In the end it's worse for both the prostitutes and their customers.
It's actually kind of similar in that regard to the drug war. I guess the way I see it, regardless of whether or not you personally find drugs/prostitution to be okay, the best choice for everyone involved is to keep legal and regulate if necessary. When all's said and done, laws only serve to curtail business very minimally, if at all, yet they create an illicit market which has many inherent dangers, doesn't really matter if you're talking about prostitutes unable to report a rape (and then need to report it to their pimp, etc), or a drug dealer unable to report a robbery (and then getting his crew/guns) - the prohibition does little to reduce the 'undesirable' activities, it just makes them more dangerous for *everyone* involved, and yeah, that includes society at large.
He never trounced anyone. Who the fuck are you, John Madden?Damn.
I've never seen one side of a debate get so thoroughly trounced like that.
Kudos bingal, DD, et al.
Since he hasn't reappeared, maybe this guy reported back to his god and was reassigned to the rectory.
Why do you feel it necessary that prostituition be present and legal in a society?
lolkultron said:He never trounced anyone. Who the fuck are you, John Madden?
They care if it wins them votes. One of the pernicious habits of governments is that they like to make enemies - preferably defenceless ones (e.g. social undesirables, minority ethnic groups, even weaker nations.) First they set them up as a menace to society, then drum up easy votes by punishing them. Prostitutes are one such easy target ... can you think of another (hint: you're posting on a druggies' forum)? In short, beating up on prossies is a guaranteed vote-winner.Governments don't actually care about the whole moral issue of it, they care about the money issue of it.
Then why do you follow it with a moral judgment:I really don't care about the morality of the issue
If this is the "fact of the matter", then you need to supply evidence, not bluster. Pimping and human trafficking are certainly poisons upon society, but why prostitution per se?The fact of the matter, regardless of legality, prostitution is a poison upon society. It is far more destructive than any drug and is exploitation as long as it exists.
This just shows a lack of imagination. Convenience, for one thing. The certainty of a shag, for another. The cheap thrill of transgression. The quest for new experiences. Frankly, the reasons are endless. For me, it was on my list of Things To Do Before Dying.And seriously, why would you PAY MONEY to have sex?
"Meaningful relationships" demand effort, commitment, inconvenience and considerable expense. For many men, a one-night stand with a prostitute is a quite rational alternative. It is also a much more honest arrangement than the average sexual relationship.Or you could form a meaningful relationship for free, and spend your money on worthwhile things?