Bye-Bye Chapo Guzman

Oh wow, this is huge news.

If you're still tuning in, somnilicious, can you paste part of the article into your OP?
 
"He was also rumored to have staged an elaborate public wedding in 2007 to an 18-year-old bride that was attended by officials and local police.
Federal police say they raided the town that day, but got there just a few hours too late.
Guzman had long been reported to move around frequently, using private aircraft, bulletproof SUVs and even all-terrain vehicles."
 
Fuck...!
"Taking him alive" seems uncharacteristic....can't say I feel much for the guy himself, but I just hope this doesn't result in more innocent blood being spilt.

De-escalation isn't really part of these cartels' modus-operandi is it?
 
spacejunk said:
Fuck...!
"Taking him alive" seems uncharacteristic....can't say I feel much for the guy himself, but I just hope this doesn't result in more innocent blood being spilt.

De-escalation isn't really part of these cartels' modus-operandi is it?
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De-escalation is in neither sides "modus-operandi"
 
This guy kind of looks like Tuco from Breaking Bad

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crimsonjunk said:
De-escalation is in neither sides "modus-operandi"
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Aye, true dat.
neversickanymore said:
Anybody notice who ends up with the money in the end.. the same governments who's prohibition inflate the price and cause all this violence.. 7o,ooo people dead and I they're not even counting anymore.
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Yeah, that sums up the grotesque irony of this whole situation.
Cocaine is like class war in drug form. The poor of coca cultivation regions, smuggling routes and Western urban ghettos (where a lot of it turns up as crack) residents pay the social cost, while the governments with the big armies, the huge money-laundering Wall Street financiers etc etc laugh all the way to the bank.
I know it's much more complicated than that, but historically with people like Ollie North and his cronies....it's a fucking dirty business on pretty much every level.
 
"the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration and the Marshals Service were "heavily involved" in the capture."

LMAO! Raylan Givens finally busted up the Mexican cartel =D
 
I read an article the other day about how the dea was basically in bed with the sinaloa cartel and what a coincidence he is apprehended. If he isnt extradited, which if it happens it wont be for years, he will prob be out again lol. With how corrupt the gov is in mexico, he can prob buy his way out. And lets face it, the us needs big drug kingpins to keep the deas funding as crazy large as it is.
 
Recapture of Mexico’s most wanted drugs lord boosts Nieto but cartels go on
By Jude Webber
February 23, 2014

Mexico’s recapture of the world’s most-wanted drug lord 13 years after he broke out of a top-security jail is a blow to the country’s criminal cartels and a coup for the can-do image of Enrique Peña Nieto, the president.


“His arrest is very important. He is a criminal who owes many lives,” Ms Hernández said. “But this is not even close to the end of the road for the Sinaloa Cartel. Ironically, the cartel will probably come out of this strengthened.”

Alejandro Hope, security analyst at the Mexican Institute for Competitiveness, said the arrest of Mr Guzmán was highly “symbolic – this was the face of impunity and the failure of previous administrations [to capture him]”.

Mr Guzmán – know as “El Chapo”, or Shorty – is credited with controlling as much as half of the illicit drugs delivered into the US every year. His wealth was such that for a spell he held a place on the Forbes rich list of the world’s wealthiest people.

The arrest on Saturdaycame as Mexican marines, working with US intelligence, stormed into a property in the Pacific resort of Mazatlán, surprising Mr Guzmán while he slept and before he had a chance to reach for the AK-47 he kept by his bed.

Unlike other operations which ended in a hail of bullets and sometimes the death of the drug boss, not a single shot was fired in the capture of Mr Guzmán – an operation that had almost succeeded a week ago.
Getting ‘Shorty’: call tips off US and Mexico

Just as in the fall of Colombian cocaine king Pablo Escobar in 1993, the fatal error that gave away Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán may have been using his telephone
Continue reading

Then, as troops struggled with a reinforced door, Mr Guzmán slipped into a maze of tunnels connecting several houses and the local sewer system, and disappeared, admitted Jesús Murillo Karam, Mexico’s attorney-general.

Mexico’s drugs war has claimed an estimated 80,000 lives in the past eight years, and Mr Nieto has made taking the fight to the cartels one of the themes of his presidency.
Ismael Zambada is the man expected to take the reins of the Sinaloa Cartel, due to the fact that he already shared power with Mr Guzmán, Ms Hernández said. Other analysts see Mr Zambada more as Mr Guzmán’s second-in-command.

Considered less violent and flamboyant than Mr Guzmán – a man who was said to revel in being untouchable by the police – Mr Zambada would be more open to alliances with other drugs organisations, such as the Gulf Cartel and Los Zetas, Ms Hernández added. This could boost the Sinaloa cartel’s power base, while keeping business going as usual.
Mr Hope said he expected the capture of a man with a $5m price put on his head by the US to fuel a shift to a more local, gang-based model of organised crime.
This would accelerate a transition from cartels closely allied to Mexican political and business bosses focused on shifting drugs into the US “to a more local, less sophisticated and more territorial model of organised crime”.

This is not even close to the end of the road for the Sinaloa Cartel. Ironically, the cartel will probably come out of this strengthened.”
- Anabel Hernández, author of Narcoland

This does not mean fewer Mexican drugs will find their way on to the streets. Yet it could mean more gang-led extortion and kidnapping – activities that have turned into money-spinners for some cartels, like the Zetas.

“Small gangs no longer pose an existential threat to the Mexican state the way the old Sinaloa or Gulf cartels did,” said Mr Hope. “They would not have the financial or political wherewithal to capture large parts of the state. But they do pose a major threat to public security.”

Mr Guzmán – looking paunchier than at the time of his 2001 jailbreak, with black hair and a moustache – kept his face stony as he was paraded before the press before being flown to the Altiplano maximum security prison in the state of Mexico.

There, Ms Hernández noted, he will be in the company of other drug bosses, including Miguel Angel Treviño Morales, the head of the Zetas who was captured last year; Edgar Valdez Villareal, the drugs boss known as La Barbie; and his own brother, Miguel Guzmán. Their arrests, she noted, had done little or nothing to dent their cartels’ power.
Guzmán is also wanted on a string of charges in the US and a spokesman for the US Attorney’s office in Brooklyn, Robert Nardoza, was quoted by Reuters as saying that his office planned to seek the drug lord’s extradition. Prosecutors in Chicago, where Guzmán has been designated Public Enemy No 1 by the Chicago Crime Commission, were also reported to be readying extradition plans.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/229df044-9c84-11e3-b535-00144feab7de.html#axzz2uArz3aGi
 
This does seem pretty symbolic for the US as well.. it seems that in a time when people have realized that the drug war in not winnable and public opinion has shifted significantly away from supporting such a failed approach that busting a high end drug cartel target could be used as further justification and continued funding even though this will likely make no difference in the big picture of drugs.
 
For once I've finally heard of one of these guise before the capture & big story aha. Thx GQ!
 
This is by no means a unanimous opinion. Many analysts feel the cartel will be significantly weakened without Guzman as master strategist. The article I posted in comment 14 explains in detail.

How do I generate a translated browser window? My browser language is set to Spanish, so Google never offers to translate it for me.

neversickanymore said:
Recapture of Mexico’s most wanted drugs lord boosts Nieto but cartels go on
By Jude Webber
February 23, 2014

Mexico’s recapture of the world’s most-wanted drug lord 13 years after he broke out of a top-security jail is a blow to the country’s criminal cartels and a coup for the can-do image of Enrique Peña Nieto, the president.


“His arrest is very important. He is a criminal who owes many lives,” Ms Hernández said. “But this is not even close to the end of the road for the Sinaloa Cartel. Ironically, the cartel will probably come out of this strengthened.”

Alejandro Hope, security analyst at the Mexican Institute for Competitiveness, said the arrest of Mr Guzmán was highly “symbolic – this was the face of impunity and the failure of previous administrations [to capture him]”.

Mr Guzmán – know as “El Chapo”, or Shorty – is credited with controlling as much as half of the illicit drugs delivered into the US every year. His wealth was such that for a spell he held a place on the Forbes rich list of the world’s wealthiest people.

The arrest on Saturdaycame as Mexican marines, working with US intelligence, stormed into a property in the Pacific resort of Mazatlán, surprising Mr Guzmán while he slept and before he had a chance to reach for the AK-47 he kept by his bed.

Unlike other operations which ended in a hail of bullets and sometimes the death of the drug boss, not a single shot was fired in the capture of Mr Guzmán – an operation that had almost succeeded a week ago.
Getting ‘Shorty’: call tips off US and Mexico

Just as in the fall of Colombian cocaine king Pablo Escobar in 1993, the fatal error that gave away Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán may have been using his telephone
Continue reading

Then, as troops struggled with a reinforced door, Mr Guzmán slipped into a maze of tunnels connecting several houses and the local sewer system, and disappeared, admitted Jesús Murillo Karam, Mexico’s attorney-general.

Mexico’s drugs war has claimed an estimated 80,000 lives in the past eight years, and Mr Nieto has made taking the fight to the cartels one of the themes of his presidency.
Ismael Zambada is the man expected to take the reins of the Sinaloa Cartel, due to the fact that he already shared power with Mr Guzmán, Ms Hernández said. Other analysts see Mr Zambada more as Mr Guzmán’s second-in-command.

Considered less violent and flamboyant than Mr Guzmán – a man who was said to revel in being untouchable by the police – Mr Zambada would be more open to alliances with other drugs organisations, such as the Gulf Cartel and Los Zetas, Ms Hernández added. This could boost the Sinaloa cartel’s power base, while keeping business going as usual.
Mr Hope said he expected the capture of a man with a $5m price put on his head by the US to fuel a shift to a more local, gang-based model of organised crime.
This would accelerate a transition from cartels closely allied to Mexican political and business bosses focused on shifting drugs into the US “to a more local, less sophisticated and more territorial model of organised crime”.

This is not even close to the end of the road for the Sinaloa Cartel. Ironically, the cartel will probably come out of this strengthened.”
- Anabel Hernández, author of Narcoland

This does not mean fewer Mexican drugs will find their way on to the streets. Yet it could mean more gang-led extortion and kidnapping – activities that have turned into money-spinners for some cartels, like the Zetas.

“Small gangs no longer pose an existential threat to the Mexican state the way the old Sinaloa or Gulf cartels did,” said Mr Hope. “They would not have the financial or political wherewithal to capture large parts of the state. But they do pose a major threat to public security.”

Mr Guzmán – looking paunchier than at the time of his 2001 jailbreak, with black hair and a moustache – kept his face stony as he was paraded before the press before being flown to the Altiplano maximum security prison in the state of Mexico.

There, Ms Hernández noted, he will be in the company of other drug bosses, including Miguel Angel Treviño Morales, the head of the Zetas who was captured last year; Edgar Valdez Villareal, the drugs boss known as La Barbie; and his own brother, Miguel Guzmán. Their arrests, she noted, had done little or nothing to dent their cartels’ power.
Guzmán is also wanted on a string of charges in the US and a spokesman for the US Attorney’s office in Brooklyn, Robert Nardoza, was quoted by Reuters as saying that his office planned to seek the drug lord’s extradition. Prosecutors in Chicago, where Guzmán has been designated Public Enemy No 1 by the Chicago Crime Commission, were also reported to be readying extradition plans.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/229df044-9c84-11e3-b535-00144feab7de.html#axzz2uArz3aGi
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is this what you wanted.. chrome just automatically asks me if I wanted it translated.

The capture of El Chapo fragment the drug trade in Mexico
SONIA CORONA Mexico 23 FEB 2014 -

The historic capture of Joaquin El Chapo Guzman Loera, leader of the Sinaloa Cartel , is the result of a long process of intelligence institutions in both Mexico and the United States. Their return to prison represents a success for the administration of Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto , but in turn is the beginning of a new configuration of the drug trade in the region, experts have assured THE COUNTRY security and drug trafficking.

For Samuel Gonzalez, former director of the Office of Special Investigations into Organized Crime (OFDI) Research, the arrest of Guzman Loera is "only a snapshot compared to the Colombian drug lord Pablo Escobar." Historic because the Mexican drug trafficker controlled a quarter of the drug business in the United States as a figure of command that has gradually been depleted in recent years in Latin America.

"El Chapo Guzman drug was the symbol of the old way which was what dominated the export of narcotics into the United States and was, if not the last, one of the last exponents of that business model. His capture is likely to generate a process of fragmentation in the presiding criminal organization, "agrees Alexander Hope, security director of the Mexican Institute for Competitiveness (IMCO).

According to Hope, even though the Sinaloa cartel was no longer a centralized criminal organization for several years, no character had much weight in decision-making as El Chapo. safety specialist believes that although Ismael 'El Mayo' Zambada collaborator Bonnet has a significant level of activity within the cartel would not be sufficient to maintain unity in the organization.

"El Chapo played a central role because it was the great strategist of the organization, then without his leadership is very likely that the cartel suffers a process of fragmentation and infighting in the coming months. In this way it will temporarily affect the supply of drugs to the United States "considers Guillermo Valdés, former director of the Center for Research and National Security (CISEN), the Mexican intelligence service. Both Valdes and expect the model Hope export of narcotics to the United States will be the first affected after the capture of capo and while the organization restored its leadership.

Hope estimates that Mexico could have violent episodes that show the rearrangement of leadership within the Sinaloa Cartel. "It is likely that this transition from a pass dominated by illegal narcotics export model to a more local, more predatory, more oriented to the activities of extortion and theft model," he says. By contrast, Samuel Gonzalez, OFDI, says the arrest of El Chapo an element that has paid a significant amount of violence and incarceration may appease clashes between organizations is eliminated.


The magnitude and historicity of the capture of Guzman Loera, however, will have its greatest impact on drug trafficking in the United States. "When you lose a leader, operations haywire", says Gonzalez. A bonnet catch, according to the experts, you should follow a comprehensive research about the drug business. Ernesto Lopez Portillo, director of the Institute for Security and Democracy (Insyde) has told Mexican television that the arrest of El Chapo now obliges the Mexican authorities to look at the bigger picture involving international drug trafficking networks corruption will not stop working after the imprisonment of drug dealer. "There must be a real assurance that the financial base of the organization to stop working," he explains. The commitment of the Mexican government is now in its effort to follow not only the fragmentation of the Sinaloa cartel but also the money trail.

http://internacional.elpais.com/internacional/2014/02/23/actualidad/1393116814_019548.html
 
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