Opioids Buprenorphine/Subutex/Subuxone rehab

[Jabberwocky]

I am 7 days off buprenorphine now and i can tell this is fucking worse than heroin. The depression, Why do doctors prespice this shit? Why wont they just give you pure heroin?

 

[Jabberwocky]

Fun fact - i wasn't even prespicted this shit. It's so easy to get from street in finland, that i wont go to doctors and take 6 month process to get this dope. I got addicted to heroin when i was railing in Europe, Denmark was very beatiful and their drug policies are very liberal. Came back here, ordered heroin from internet for a while, but then switched to bupre, because of It's so much cheaper. This shit is horrible for rehab. I have done U-47700 rehab, Heroin rehab but this is worse.

 

[mostly-human]

Yeah it's a prick to get off, though you're basically at the peak-worst part now. Nearly through the hard bit, then just gotta rebuild your strength.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I did only like 2mg day and dropped to 1mg before rehab. One of the biggest reason that i didnt go to bupre treatment is that the doses are so fucking huge. 4-24mg a day. Also you have to go to clinic every morning to get it, and put it under your tongue for like half year until you can get your "vacations" so you get like 2x 8mg strips for a weekend. It's insane control. Subuxone is bad for injecting, but it is bullshit that naloxone does anything in it - it doesn't, i know it and everyone in bupre treatment knows it. I like more the french ones - subutex. They come in sterile packages and shooting them up isn't that bad. I am only 20. Turned 26.6 and that was last day i did bupre. If i went to bupre treatment, i know it would be lifelong process.

It's messed up and alot of the times 8mg strips are handed out like candy to people with small heroin habits, making the problem exponentially worse in the long run, since 8mg bupe or even 4mg bupe is ALOT more of a tolerance builder than say $20 of heroin a day

That's not to say that heroin isn't more addictive just by virtue of being such a euphoric and "clean" euphoria while simultaneously being one of the dirtiest things you can put into your system (street heroin)

In the end I was more addicted to bupe than heroin before I called it quits and just started to smoke weed and mellowed out a bit

Yeah, same here about being more addicted to bupre than heroin. We call methadone and subuxone treatment "saattohoito" here in Finland. It means "escort treatment", because of it escorts you to grave.
About U-47700. The rehab lasts for fucking 2-3 days, it's horrible but you get over it. It is like little bit than 4x more potent than heroin. Overdosed on that shit once and friend did some first aid breathing. Woke up from ambulance, told them that i am over 18 and law says i can leave. Went inside and shooted up another dose. They had cut my hoodie and shirt open, my heart had stopped for a very small time. i have no idea what they did to me, maybe adrenaline to heart or some electric shock but i was clinically dead for a very short time.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Yeah it's a prick to get off, though you're basically at the peak-worst part now. Nearly through the hard bit, then just gotta rebuild your strength.

I am doing some bodybuilding now, i have some weights in home and bought ashwaganda, lots of vitamins, creatine and weight gain protein stuff. I am mostly depressed now, i feel like empty shell. I have horrible diarhea, even tho i eat protein like a bull. Benzos tho really help me through this. Gotta be careful not to get addicted to them.

 

[Jabberwocky]

^Man that's good that at around a week you have the fortitude of mind to be thinking about self-care to that extent. I found that the physical symptoms were the last to go and they would come back in waves. Around a month in I started feeling some sort of a "natural" baseline and I would say about 3 months in is when its 100% out of one's system. Personally my WD didn't "truely" start until around day 3 or day 4, and felt like shit for about 3 weeks. Well, people say they feel like shit when they have a bad cold or strain a muscle. Looking back I was nearly on deaths door, or at least felt like it. It is truely bad because the symptoms just creep up, new ones showing up every day or two while the existing ones get worse... and slowly but surely the symptoms go back down, just as slow as they appeared. I was IV'ing them too, about 2-4mg a day (I would do 0.8-1mg shots but would end up redosing at least once sometimes more if I was drinking), along with drinking alcohol, doing speed and taking massive amounts of gabapentin everyday. Was a harsh rehabilitation period that is for sure.

Yeah, half-life of bupre is around 37 hours, if i remember right so if you dose 2mg a day, it takes like 3 days for the detox to begin. My pupils are fucking huge, people think i am on MDMA or something :D I have done some pushups and other stuff today. I also used to do kickboxing, so i go to my neighbours door who likes to kinda "fight" with me and when i get punched in the face i get the endorphin rush. It helps, it really fucking helps. Also, i am again getting horny. Not that i am not usually horny, but now i am much fucking hornier. Benzos affect it too. I remember when i quit bupre first time, i had boner all the fucking time.