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Bupe Buprenorphine Addiction, help me

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Well this is my first post, I've been visiting bluelight for a while now, just looking at threads. I always find lots of good information, the site is really kind of invaluable.

A little back story on myself, I'm really not into many drugs. I smoke cannabis fairly regularly, to the tune of about a half ounce a week. I've also been known to dabble in mushrooms and some pills and that's really about it. I have no problem with drug use, as long as it's not having a negative effect on daily life. This post is really about my GF.

The problem is Buprenorphine and the problem is what I would call fairly bad. Now don't think I'm jumping on her case about it, I'm not. Before we even got together we talked about her problem with bube's about how she needs to get off them, for herself and her kids. The problem is that right now doctors in this area are starting to crack down on bube's, there is a huge problem with abuse in this area. It's the withdraws that are the problem, if she has none she can literally do nothing but lay and bed in pain. Which means her kids at times get neglected, which is not OK. In the past when she could not get bube's she has turned to heroin to ease the withdraws. This is what really scares her and me, she has always stayed away from heroin because she feels that if she gets into it she'll never get out. Now with the supply of bube's heading down, she worried she'll turn to heroin to ease the withdraws and end up getting addicted to it.

Can anyone help me with some idea's on the best way to help her get this monkey off her back? I care for her and the kids so much, I don't want her to lose the kids and I don't want to lose her.
 
i think its hilarious that you call them bube's. it made me think of someone snorting pubes or taking them sublingually.

Anyways, if she has a legitimate need for Suboxone, why the hell is the doctor cutting her off? She should go to another doctor, or if that's not a viable option then she should look into methadone maintenance.
 
Magic_Hobo said:
i think its hilarious that you call them bube's. it made me think of someone snorting pubes or taking them sublingually.

Anyways, if she has a legitimate need for Suboxone, why the hell is the doctor cutting her off? She should go to another doctor, or if that's not a viable option then she should look into methadone maintenance.
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Well she was never prescribed them, she and her Ex-loser actually started doing them recreationally. She buys them on the street and like I have said with doctors cutting back because of all the abuse it's getting harder and harder to find them. Which leads to the problem of that heroin can always be found around here and helps with the withdrawal. She does not want to get into heroin, she cried last time she used some to soften the withdrawal.

As for what I call them, a lot of people around her call them bute's or stop signs. also lol I just noticed I miss spelled it, I meant to say bupe's.
 
I just have to get this off my chest also, I'm really emotionally fucked up right now. With all this shit with my girl going down, seeing her in pain is enough. But just last week I also find out my mother has cancer and has to have major surgery to remove the tumors and is going to need chemo. She's overweight and that adds even more complication to the surgery, everyone is scared right now. Everything is just hitting the fan at the same time, I'm having a really hard time coping with all of this right now. Life is really a cruel bitch.
 
I would recommend her going to a bupe doctor and doing a taper the proper way. Bupe withdrawal can last a little while and be quite uncomfortable, so I don't blame her for wanting to stop the withdrawal, but heroin is not the way to go to do that; it will just make her addiction ten times worse.

Sit her down and have a talk about making an appointment with a bupe doctor (if you check out the dark side forum, you can find links to finding a bupe doctor in your area.) I agree that this is serious for the sake of her health and her kids and if she isn't going to do anything about it while living home, then maybe she should think about rehab.

mrpibb said:
Everything is just hitting the fan at the same time, I'm having a really hard time coping with all of this right now. Life is really a cruel bitch.
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And have you thought about therapy or counseling for yourself? It is not fun feeling like you have to take care of everyone around you. This burden will take a toll on you if you don't look to start talking to a professional about it.
 
Thank you

Yes I agree that she needs to seek professional help, I just don't think it's something that can be done at home. We have talked a few times about it, her main concern is her kids, she does not want to be away from them for an extended period of time. The thing I worry about with going to a bupe doctor is that it's bupe that she is addicted to and I'm not sure what they will think of that. Since bupe is used for withdrawal from heroin, it just seems like they are not going to prescribe more bupe to get her off bupe to me.

I know this for sure, something has to break. It's not like she does an excessive amount of bupe, she really tries to do just enough to stave off the withdrawals. but at the same time with it being harder and harder to get often times we will run into times that she is just laid up in bed. when this happens she can't do anything let alone take care of the kids. It just has to come to an end, which both of us agree on. I'll look into finding some bupe doctors and go from there.

I love this girl and want nothing more than to get her out of this cycle that she seems to be stuck in.
 
maybe she should try and get em from a doctor so should wouldt need to stress about if she can get her next "fix" and that way you should have plenty to do a propper taper

and then you can help her with the taper, make a good solid taper schedule, and then you dispense the meds to her, that way it will be most comfortable and if she dont got more then she needs she has better luck at not relapsing, but it seems she's more doing it to not be sicks then to get high, so thats good(relapsing wise)

well just and idea, but good luck with it all i hope you guys will get better :)

edit: if your gonna do a home taper/detox it really helps that you got someone there with you'! i sure as hell could have used one, the 2 times i kicked...

edit2: dont mind my mispelling,, im high! :P
 
I always found it strange that people used buprenorphine as a recreational drug, as from my personal experience it does not do anything but relieve wds from other opiate addictions. I'm a recovering heroin addict myself, and I will tell you that heroin will be a million times more addicting that bupe ever could be. I can definitely sympathize with your situation(or your girlfriends that is) and following is my best advice:

1. Keep her away from heroin. Continued use, even if to ease withdrawal, with ultimately lead to another addiction which is much nastier than buprenorphine could ever be.

2. If you can, seek treatment from an authorized addiction specialist. Tell them your girlfriend has been using heroin(try to leave out the bupe part if you can, but its always good to tell the honest truth) and is experiencing wds. The doctor will most likely suggest suboxone or subutex(which is the abused substance to begin with so its kinda tricky). If this is the case, you keep your girls pills and dispense them to her as needed.There are many doctors who are wonderful at understanding/sympathizing with opiate addiction. Shop around if you need to so you can find one who will do his/her best to get your gf on a good detox plan. Avoid methadone AT ALL COSTS. This is an extremely nasty substance to get off of.

3. Next you need to establish a taper plan. Assuming she starts on 8mg(a fairly standard starting dose, however it may need to be adjusted) have her lower her dose 2mg every two-three weeks. Once she gets down to 2mg, slowly taper the dose down .5 mg at a time. You can do this every two weeks for a quicker taper, or a month if she needs more time. By the time she is down to .5 mg for a few weeks, have her start taking it every other day. Do this for a few weeks, then stop. She may experience some fatigue for a few days, but certainly nothing that cannot be dealt with.

Lastly, I hope everything works out for you. I completely understand the overwhelming stress that is involved when a loved one is using drugs. I was an IV heroin user for 3 years before I was switched to suboxone, and with a steady taper plan, I was off opiates completely within a year. It is very possible. I am a wealth of knowledge when it comes to bupe so if you have any questions feel free to message me. Your girlfriend is lucky to have someone who cares so much about her. Good luck man
 
On option could be obtaining codeine from an international pharmacy so there wouldn't be a need prescription. Codeine works like a charm for bupe withdrawls.

I don't know would mentioning a web board dedicated to seekin internet pharmacies sourcing?
 
I would suggest she get her own Suboxone prescription, so she doesn't go on heroin. That will only increase the amount of WD's she'll go through, and consequentially increase the amount of child neglect.

Don't count on people to sell you them from the street, that can make any drug into a problem.
 
Bupe is easier to taper from than most any other opiate.

She should not touch heroin (or other opiates). She should taper off of the bupe, and iirc, there are a number of threads on this.
 
LivingOnValium said:
On option could be obtaining codeine from an international pharmacy so there wouldn't be a need prescription. Codeine works like a charm for bupe withdrawls.

I don't know would mentioning a web board dedicated to seekin internet pharmacies sourcing?
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Yes, that would be considered sourcing.

Also, in this situation I think it's best she not use any other opioids. I think trying to see a bupe doctor would be a good idea, OP.
 
Mr Blonde said:
Yes, that would be considered sourcing.

Also, in this situation I think it's best she not use any other opioids. I think trying to see a bupe doctor would be a good idea, OP.
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Agreed, I don't really see a point in keeping this open; the only easy way about this is to take her to a Suboxone doctor.

I'm going to close this for now, there's enough threads on Suboxone and on its withdrawal. The answer is medically supervised tapering, or maintenance.

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