Benzos Bromazepam dosing

[Mirrough]

I'm an inexperienced drug user and i'm looking for help on dosing with Bromazepam. I weigh about 60kg.

I have already tested my reaction to it for the last 2 days. The first day i took 3 mg not very long after a cannabis hit. I took more later in the evening, but honestly i can't remember how much (time flies, later can't remember nada, the only downsides IME). The effects were nice, much less of a foggy feeling compared to alprazolam which is the only other benzo i have taken.
The next day i took 12mg (4x higher dose!) and to my surprise the effects fell short. I suppose the weed the day before simply gave that much more to it. Or could it be because of tolerance already???

I have 30 mg left and i want to take some again tomorrow. I just don't know how much. 12 mg definitely felt too little. I want to escape from my dull life filled with anxiety, but i'm also looking for a decent buzz. But i don't want to fall asleep either...

So, suggestions?

 

[Asante]

3mg Bromazepam = 5mg Diazepam (Valium)

A normal dose of Bromazepam is 3-6mg, this is given up to 3x daily
A high medical dose is 6-12gr, this is given up to 2x daily.

Its recommended not to exceed 12mg.

If I can give you some serious advice: Keep your bromazepam in case you are overstimulated, or anxious, or need sleep, or having a difficult trip.

Bromazepam is even in high doses a fairly mild benzo, recreationally. It shines in its medical use.

Just get drunk tomorrow instead, save your bromazepam for medical purposes and get some Etizolam instead if you insist on getting high on a benzo.

You dont get particularly high on bromazepam, its a waste to try to get there.

 

[marione]

I agree with Asante, bromazepam don't have anything special if abused, but it is very good on low and mid level anxiety when used under medical supervision.

 

[Mirrough]

Sadly this is the only benzo i have. Funny thing is i probably could get them prescribed to me, but i'm afraid of getting addicted, and of the side effects after stopping.

I've read that doses can be as high as 60 mg daily (medical). But that's for extreme cases.
Well, i took 18 mg, one hour later i still popped them all (total 30 mg). Feeling very relaxed now.

Just the calm feeling is enough for me. I get the feeling like i used to have, before my anxiety issues started. Oh how i wish i could feel like this all the time.

 

[Phat5o]

when i used to pop benzos here and there i liked bromazepam fine, i used to pop 3 - 6mg and i thought it was the equivalent of .75 - 1.5 mg klonopin or something like 7.5 - 15mg valium. i always felt like bromazepam, klonopin and valium all felt very similar.

 

[marione]

Based on my personal experience, taking meds for common and not serious mental problems like anxiety, depression, ocd, panic attacks etc should never be the first method of therapy.
I've been 6 years on psycho pharms, last 2 years I was taking 40mg citalopram, 3x 2,5mg lorazepam, 0,25 triazolam, 30mg remeron and 15mg abilify and didn't solved a fuck, been in mental ward also.
Considering the poor situation I was, the everyday suffering and lying in bed unable to do nothing, I tried psychoterapy with a cognitive psycologist and in 8 months I've tapered and eliminated all pharms and drugs, 1 year after I can consider myself healed from recursive depression, anxiety and panic attacks/adrenaline rush.
I just been back on drugs but without chronic use, that is the full story.
Please consider the psychoterapy method as the first thing to do if you REALLY want to solve your problems and get a better life.

 

[Mirrough]

Well i've tried cognitive behavioral therapy, but IMHO it is total bullshit. Maybe i got a bad doc, but it didn't work for me. I find it uncomfortable talking to docs and i have trouble expressing emotions/feelings.
I think with anxiety issues, well you just got to sort them out on your own somehow. Honestly i hate the fact that these types of drugs need a prescription (in most countries anyway). Even if i got them prescribed, it's probably going to be a very low dose, because they are afraid of abuse. What if the regular 0.25 xanax doesn't work for me? So if i'd ask for the highest dose or whatever they'd surely think i want to abuse this stuff. I mean really, the regular dose 3 mg of bromazepan didn't really do much. I took 10x the regular those for it to work for me. With 30 mg bromazepan today i felt like my old self (before anxiety)... i could talk endlessly with friends and family, my mind is clear, i feel relaxed, in a good mood, ready for whatever. But no way a doc would let me take that high of a dose.

 

[marione]

Bad doc or not, the most important thing is the feeling that you develope with him, how much you're confortable talking him about you and your most deep problems and questions.
Maybe you found a bad doctor, that is possible, also cognitive behavioural therapy isn't the right choice for you, but before using prescribed meds/drugs consider that is just a mainteance/symphtom based therapy and will not lead you to healing, and sometimes, create more psycological problems later, not just physical and mental addiction.

That is the best advice I have for you my friend :D

 

[Mirrough]

I know that drugs are a temporary solution. Actually none of the drugs that were prescribed to me didn't work. They were SSRI's, few were stronger, influenced dopamine and noradrenaline or whatever, but they mostly just made me dizzy. One of the drugs left me completely emotionless, no appetite, felt like a zombie. But none of them seemed to get my anxiety down. So i've stopped taking these SSRI type drugs.

But these benzos definitely seem to work. My anxiety is completely gone with them. I think i will do a course, like a month or so, on some benzo. So that my body will get used to not being anxious, and get some good social experiences which would help my self-esteem. But who knows, probably after stopping the meds, anxiety would kick back in.

I don't know much about psychoterapy, if you could tell me a little about how it works, and how it helped you, that'd be great!

 

[marione]

It's my pleasure Mirrough, just give me some time to write a little text to point you first to the most effective psychoterapy avaiable regarding your symphtoms.

Just start getting into it with google and go searching those terms and reading carefully all infos avaiable : Cognitive Behavioural, Strategic Short Therapy of Palo Alto School, Biosystemic Psychology.